Stripped brass from stem

paravion · Jan 23, 2019

I did extensive research on cleaning up estate pipes and found many using oxyclean to de-oxidize and clean out stems.
Last night I tossed my Savinelli stem into a bath of Oxyclean and was shocked to see the paint? brass come off of the stem. It appears to have just been paint, and not a small brass insert like I thought it was. I really wish I had known it was just paint, I would've gone down another path with the restos.
What is the best paint to refinish this?
Thanks guys.

donjgiles · Jan 23, 2019

Is this a Deluxe Milano pipe?

cosmicfolklore · Jan 23, 2019

Sounds like it was a plated base metal or pot metal. Things like this were produced very cheaply everywhere in all forms. Unfortunately, if you removed the plating, then there's not much you can do. You might consider putting a silver one on. There are guys who do this cheaply with ready-made bands that they just slip on, but usually they are used in repairs. You could get someone to make a new band, but then you get into prices that may be more than the pipe's value.

Chasing Embers · Jan 23, 2019

Is this a Deluxe Milano pipe?

Out of the De Luxe Milano's that didn't have a perspex stem, that's a nice little sliver of brass. Cut one out of a spare stem once.

donjgiles · Jan 23, 2019

I am thinking that if it is indeed a Milano, the Oxiclean has just exposed the oxidation over the brass, a little Magic Eraser and Micromesh and it will be shining better than new...
Don

paravion · Jan 23, 2019

Its a savinelli roma 627, and very much seems to be painted(coming off), but i can have a closer look when I get home from work. Was thinking I could find a decent high end model paint to retouch it with easily enough but wasn't sure if there was a recommended way to go about it.

Chasing Embers · Jan 23, 2019

Its a savinelli roma 627

I have had an Alligator 904 for several years, and the band on it appears to have had some sort of clear coat on it.

donjgiles · Jan 23, 2019

ah... I don't know how to fix that.
Don

paravion · Jan 23, 2019

Is this a Deluxe Milano pipe?

No, it is a Savinelli roma 627

jpmcwjr · Jan 23, 2019

Can you show a close up of the affected part?

paravion · Jan 23, 2019

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P-lip and Sav stems post oxy clean bath

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Sav stem with brass showing

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Sav again.
It does seem to appear like the brass is just dirty now. I can see a difference in sheen between the stem and where the 'insert' is. Micro mesh pads are arriving tomorrow so I think thats the current plan of attack.

jpmcwjr · Jan 23, 2019

Thanks.
Is the vulcanite rough? If not, a tiny bit of mineral oil rubbed on will show you a nice black stem. Sorry can't advise on the trim bit.

Chasing Embers · Jan 23, 2019

Th micromesh will make short work of that oxidation and make the brass shine like new.

donjgiles · Jan 23, 2019

Hit it with a Magic Eraser first, and see...

Chasing Embers · Jan 23, 2019

Hit it with a Magic Eraser first, and see...

Yep! Though I personally use neither now, both do a fine job.

woodsroad · Jan 24, 2019

I love striped bass.

Chasing Embers · Jan 24, 2019

Sea bass is better.

danielplainview · Jan 24, 2019

Micro mesh will remove the black tarnish. No worries, all the older Sav’s like this had real brass. Future reference; Vaseline works as a barrier when soaking in oxyclean. Painted stem logos, brass, etc.

anantaandroscoggin · Jan 24, 2019

If I remember my 4-to-8 AM watches on the Columbia River Lightship as a young Seaman, one of the jobs was to touch up any of the brightwork (things made of bare brass) that had collected any verdigris (oxidation on brass) that had turned such pieces somewhat greenish.
For that, there was a 1-lb tin of "Never Dull" stashed away in one of the drawers on the bridge.

paravion · Jan 24, 2019

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First three rounds of micro mesh and we're well on our way to restoration. The brass is there, and very much coming back to life. Will the deep black color come back as I go farther along in the process? Still seems to be a muted black and there are noticeable spots of brown still.

Stripped brass from stem

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