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    I am starting to add more quantity of tobaccos to my small collection. Most are tins of some kind of flake. But, I want to start adding some bulk. I've read bits and pieces of info about cellaring. I read somewhere that G.L. Pease had written a guide for aging, but I cannot find it. Can someone give me a step by step guide to keeping my tobacco? I'm less interested in aging than just keeping it smokable over the long term.

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    Basically, virginia blends age well. Jarred 6-12 month, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

    Kept sealed in jars, it continues to age. If you open it, the aging process stops dead.

    Other types of leaf age from not good at all to OK. For example, latakia mellows out over time and doesn't improve it just mellows out.

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    +1 Thanks in advance...

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    Okay here's how I do it
    step by step of storing tobacco
    1. Open clean mason jar.
    2. insert tobacco
    3. close mason jar
    4. label jar lid with sharpie
    5. put mason jar in coolish dry place out of direct sunlight
    6. Swear because your out of tobacco and those morons over at (insert website name) are dragging ass getting you your next order
    7. open cabinet,closet,other area where cellared tobacco is stored
    8. swear again because sharpie has rubbed of the lids and is now unreadable
    9. vow to get a printer and make real labels for future tobacco additions
    10. Select random jar because it kinda looks like the one you want to smoke
    11. slam door to tobacco storage center
    11.5 (Optional) swear yet again because some part of your anatomy was in the door when you slammed it
    12. Trip over all pets you may have on your way to get a pipe
    13. get pipe
    14. carefully unscrew band on jar
    15. realize lid has sealed and attempt to pry up with finger/thumb nail
    16. slice self on sharpened edge of lid
    17. bandage offending digit
    18. get a flat head screwdriver(or butterknife/similar device)
    19. pop lid
    20. fill pipe with tobacco
    21. charring light
    21.5 tamp
    21.5.5 light pipe
    22. realize it's that awfull rotting skunk asshole Aro your brother-in-law got you.
    Repeat steps 7-22 until you get a good tobacco
    23. sit down to enjoy pipe
    24. get up to answer door
    25. open front door
    26. swear loudly because your two sips into the pipe you went to all this trouble for, and it's the UPS man with your gorram order of the tobacco you actually wanted
    27. sit down with fresh order and repeat steps 1-5

    I hope it helps

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    Brilliant Josh. Absolutely Brilliant

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    Do any of you guys put the tobacco in hot jars to get a better seal or is that a bad idea?

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    well jars that aren't full or are in rotation are kept in either the living room or kitchen, which is generally 10-15 degrees warmer than the store room where I keep my cellared tobaccos, I tend to get a good seal that way. I haven't tried treating the jars(like you would for canning, or specifically heating the the jars for any duration. I think it might be interesting to possibly "bake" the tobacco (it's described in another thread that I can't find right now). but use the jars instead of a tin to maybe get that flavor and then lock it in by creating a heat seal on the jar.

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    Do any of you guys put the tobacco in hot jars to get a better seal or is that a bad idea?

    That's the Grandma approach to "canning" -- but we're not canning jelly here, we're jarring tobacco.

    Look, it can't hurt to "can" tobacco -- i.e., put the tobacco in the jars, dip them in a hot water bath, so the lids seal. If that floats your Cherrios, go for it.

    But completely unnecessary, IMO.

    Use clean jars, pack them well with tobacco to 1/4 inch, screw e'm tightly, you be done. Store them in a cool dark place.

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    @roth: jarring tobacco just got easier...

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    I would think applying heat to a jar of tobacco would do more harm than good. You might disagree and that's just fine with me. I just fill, screw the lid on, mark it and go.

    Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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    Just to be clear, the hot water bath won't hurt tobacco. And it does "seal" the lid nicely.

    But is it necessary? I think not.

    And TBH, I find it rather silly to bother.

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    I defer to roth's judgement as he has much more experience in the subject. The only experience I have with long-term cellaring is with beer and mead. With them heat is only surpassed in damage potential by sunlight or fluorescent light.

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    Brilliant Josh. Absolutely Brilliant

    +1

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    Josh, HILARIOUS!!! Loved it.

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    Brilliant Josh. Absolutely Brilliant

    +1

    I especially like all the .5 steps & all the cussin'

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    ash13brook, there's a ton of info on the subject to be read here:
    https://www.box.com/s/oulxnfvdud1rhni4tjqq

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    great info guys. i do agree you do not need any type of heat in order to seal a mason jar. they will seal on their own. after you have put the tobac in a mason jar just screw on the lid and ring, after a day or so the lid will be sucked in. if not you can press down on the lid, the lid normally will stay down indicating a vaccum. good luck.

    mike.

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    Thanks for the responses. The handbook might have been what I was looking for, although, I expect Josh's is the most accurate! Life was easier when I just jammed some Capt. Black in my corn cob a couple of times a day.

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    Good read. Nothing new, but was interesting how G.L. Peace needs to watch what he prints, as they’re being used as gospel passages by people, and you have to watch what you say! In the end I feel good about my stand on rolled pressed tin.

    Craig

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