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crazypipe

Lifer
Sep 23, 2012
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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You take what you get. I read there is almost no demand for sperm from red haired men. I don't

know what women have against them, but I thought it was an odd fact. I never wanted a bunch of

my little offspring running around unsupervised, since I am the only one who could properly

supervise them, of course. Isn't the lady in the cartoon a little beyond child bearing age? She

looks about 80, not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

dottiewarden

Lifer
Mar 25, 2014
3,053
57
Toronto
This is more of a snapshot of reality than a joke. Couples are waiting so long to have children these days that by the time they want them it's all but too late. A human reproduction specialist is an "in demand" profession for all you young bucks out there wondering what to do with your lives!

 

ravenwolf

Can't Leave
Mar 18, 2014
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Dottiewarden - part of it is the reality of economics for millenials.
I'm 26, my girlfriend is 29, and while we would see a baby as a wonderful occurance... I'd be nervous as hell about trying to properly support the family. I'm a qualified medical radiologic technologist (medical x ray taker), with licensure in several states, with some college and some real working experience in the field - also a 158 IQ. I can't steadily work in my field because the opportunities just don't seem to exist. So I'm a graveyard shift security guard (Army background) - and apparently I am lucky to have regular employment at all, looking around at people my age. Girlfriend has a college degree and works part time at the mall.
By the time we actually get disposable income that we could hope to support a new life with, might be too late. I imagine there are plenty of other young adults in the same boat as us.

 

metarzan

Part of the Furniture Now
Nov 14, 2012
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Glad this was not a review for some new blend that mucked up your pipe.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,433
ravenwolf, I hear you. Sometimes it seems that the people in the least good position financially to

have kids have the most, or at least large families. Sometimes this works out, when the folks see

the compelling need to "move up" no matter what. And other times, grandparents and parents

siblings take over the responsibility. If you wait until you're ready, you never have kids. Who's

ever ready? Right now, with the lame job market, I don't know what to recommend. You can live

a happy life without kids. Some parents wish they had. But most parents don't want to even imagine

life without their kids. For people without kids, don't waste time regretting it; there are always kids

who need tutoring, mentoring, a trip to camp, etc. etc. etc.

 
Jun 7, 2014
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Just awesome one..It does give you very specific message..You need to respect nature otherwise it will be too late to have a baby:)

 

lordnoble

Lifer
Jul 13, 2010
2,677
14
While I understand the sentiment, ravenwolf, I don't feel the financial issue holds any water. If that were the case, your grandparents/great-grandparents wouldn't have had kids during and immediately after the Great Depression. OK, you can talk about birth control not being the same as today and higher mortality rates, but anyone who's "waiting to be able to afford" children should just shut up. They'll never get there unless they win the lottery. I don't know anyone who had kids just because it was a financially-viable proposition. If I look at my own family, I've NEVER been able to support them the way I wanted to, but I had kids just the same. Best part? I wouldn't change it for the world.

I've put something (3, actually) out there on this rock that no amount of money can take the place of. My kids will interact with hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people on this planet, affecting them in some small way, changing who they are if only a tiny little bit. OK, it's a bit existential, sure. The idea is that it won't be me that didn't push the human race forward by not procreating.

The other thing I like to point out to the students who work for me, is that if you wait too long and you won't have the energy for or time left on the earth with your grandkids. My friend had his first and only child at 42. When she graduates from college, he'll be 64. If she waits to have kids until she's in her mid-30's or worse in her 40's, he'll never know his grandkids. That's sad.

OK, this is all my opinion and you can ignore me as you see fit. I don't purport to have all the answers. I'm just putting my perspective out there.
-Jason

 
Dec 24, 2012
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lordnoble, maybe he'll get lucky and she'll have a baby in high school. That wasn't all that uncommon when I was in high school.
Seriously though, you can't choose when you are going to have kids based on your long term outlook as a grandparent. You could have kids at 20 and be hit by a bus at 30. One of my grandfathers was killed in WWII when he was in his twenties and my father was one year old.
You should have kids when you feel ready, and if you never feel ready, then so be it - the earth is already overpopulated and we don't need anybody having kids if they don't feel they are ready. I know many people who either aren't married and are middle aged or who are married and decided that kids just aren't for them. They are quite happy with their lives. Whatever works for you. That said, if you wait for the perfect moment, then that will likely never arrive. That part I do agree with.

 

ravenwolf

Can't Leave
Mar 18, 2014
302
0
Great perspectives :)
Guess I shouldn't have gone off on a lark about it, but it's been on my mind lately. Didn't mean to hijack a perfectly good joke post into some heavy minded stuff.

 

conlejm

Lifer
Mar 22, 2014
1,433
8
Lots of food for thought on this thread, and the cartoon is funny. I think the discussions from Ravenwolf, Mso489, Lordnoble, and Peck are very interesting. My wife and I are 47 years old and we have four children. In retrospect we feel we were too young having our first two (now age 21 and 19). When we had our third child (now 14) my wife feels was the best time for her, and when we had our fourth child (now 11) I feel was the best time for me. I was too heavily invested in my Actuarial career when in my 20s and early 30s to focus on children, and when my wife had our last child she was, at age ~37, in her opinion, too old and not quite physically capable to have a child. Her thyroid gave out with the last child, so perhaps she is right. But she wanted four children, and here we are with four children. My career is on autopilot now and I have time to spend with the kids, and money to pay for their college, and my wife, though a nurse by trade, has not worked in 21 years, and was able to raise our kids. But we are perpetually tired! And at no time did we ever think we could afford one child, let alone four. We "just do it" and hope for the best.
I think there is a cyclical or generational thing going on here too. One generation will suffer through a Hardship or a Depression and as a result of the struggle will want to send their kids to school/college to learn something useful like engineering, or math, science, accounting, nursing, etc. so that they can earn a decent living and be equipped to endure should another Hardship or Depression occur. Then that generation will have and "easy life" and will send their kids to school for anything the kids wants to go to school for, because they themselves never suffered through the Hardship and they have more disposable income. Their kids go to school and learn liberal arts, social sciences, partying, etc. Then these kids scratch their heads and wonder why they can't find a good-paying job with their four-year degree in Theater, for instance, and so they endure Hardship or Depression, and then encourage their kids to go to school for Math, Science, Business, and other useful things. And so the cycle continues. Just my opinion, but I see that in my own family tree, and I see what the kids are studying in college these days and wonder how they are ever going to get a job with a four-year degree in something useless, burdened now with school loans, on top of it all.

 

monty55

Lifer
Apr 16, 2014
1,722
3,560
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Bryan, Texas
Ravenwolf - Point in fact Peck is correct, the world is entirely too overpopulated, and bringing a child into this world is the largest "carbon footprint" one could ever have on the earth. Having said that, I have 3 of my own and wouldn't trade them for anything in the universe. But, if you don't have a child I would highly advise to be cautious as you are being. Don't do it unless you can afford it and are ready mentally for it. It will change your life forever. You will no longer live your life for yourself, but rather everything you do will be for them. Just know, understand, and accept this and all will be fine.

 

conlejm

Lifer
Mar 22, 2014
1,433
8
You should have kids when you feel ready, and if you never feel ready, then so be it - the earth is already overpopulated and we don't need anybody having kids if they don't feel they are ready. I know many people who either aren't married and are middle aged or who are married and decided that kids just aren't for them. They are quite happy with their lives. Whatever works for you. That said, if you wait for the perfect moment, then that will likely never arrive. That part I do agree with.
I think Peck nailed it here. One thing I notice in my neck of the woods is that the people who can least afford children are having them in bunches, and those who seemingly can afford many children are choosing not to have them, or only having one, and having them later in life. About half the households in my neighborhood have no children; they have dogs instead.

 

bwithers55

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 17, 2012
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29 years ago our son was born into a family with a combined income of less than 15k. (Rent was probably $300/mo. in those days.) I remember going to the store with all the change I could find to get diapers or taking the boy in a wagon with me to the laundromat. We didn't have our own w/d until he was in middle school. You struggle, but it's the way it is when you're young and stupid, uh, idealistic! Yeah, I was idealistic That's what it was.
I will say that his birth catapulted me into graduate school and into the teaching profession.
Best Wishes,

Bill Withers

 
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