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    I've bought "Pipe Tool" for the iOS family of devices and have found it to be lacking. Mostly due to the fact that the program hasn't had an update for over a year and a half and is missing many tobaccos from its database, making updating one's cellar more of a chore than I had signed on for. There's also Pipe Smoker Unleashed which appears to be a for-pay desktop application.

    Is there anything out there that's any good at organizing one's tobacco collection? Something like Cigar Geeks' site for pipe tobacco would be absolutely ideal, or anything that draws upon TR's database for information and has some type of web presentation would be great. It's a shame that TR itself doesn't have this functionality. The data in that site is obviously a gold mine but it's coded / presented in 1990s level technology.

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    hummm.... interesting idea.

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    I don't know anything like that. I hope someone does. I've been keeping a huge list in a spreadsheet on google docs. I mark off if I have it or not and if I will reorder.


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    I don't know of any software personally. But I use http://www.tobaccocellar.com to keep track of my very modest "cellar".

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    Hmmmmm..... this sounds like a challenge!

    I wonder if there is a way to pull the data out of TR's site? If so, developing a "tracking solution" based on their reviewed tobaccos would be rather simple.

    What type of metadata would you keep about your tobacco?

    Name
    Type of Blend
    Manufacturer/ Brand
    Purchase Date
    Production Date
    Purchase Price
    Quantity
    Stored Location
    Personal Description/ Tasting Notes
    Rating

    Once the requirement is vetted it could be developed using a myriad of current technologies ranging from simple office programs, hosted solutions with a backend database, or even an installable application.

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    go the old fashioned route... pen and paper


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    I don't know of any software personally. But I use http://www.tobaccocellar.com to keep track of my very modest "cellar".

    I just looked at this site, and it appears the challenge has been met. I signed up for an account, and looked around at the capability. It would appear that http://www.tobaccocellar.com is the answer you are looking for.

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    Tobacco Cellar is great. The User Interface is not flashy (very bland and utilitarian) but the "meat and bones" are totally there. It tracks what you spend, what you use, what you should be cellaring etc. All depends on how well you enter the data (the old garbage in, garbage out thing). It could be a great asset for networking and trading too. Just not discussed on here of course, as we are no longer able to do such things on this Forum directly.

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    I use tobaccocellar.com. It takes some getting used to (there are "hidden" shortcuts), but it works fine for what I am looking for.

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    OK, thanks for hipping me to this site - at least it's something. It's quite spartan and I'm not even all that sure it's better than creating my own Google Docs spreadsheet. It still has the problem of not being 'aware' of several of the blends that are out there and available. I'm looking for something a little more... elegant than this, I suppose.

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    Elegant be damned, I'm a function before form kind of guy. You can enter any blends that are missing on your my account page. Yes it takes some getting used to, but almost any function you could require is there once you learn it.

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    I use an Excel Spread Sheet.


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    Hmm Looks like Ill have to set my account up and add everything in the morning

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    Lawrence, I use an excel sheet to agonize over and analyze my planned (primarily) PAD purchases.

    rev413, that is just part of the fun. Just think, we can use other member's excesses (see also: epic cellars) to justify our own TAD, to our significant others.

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    bogglor:

    Yes, "Pipe Tool" is pretty much awful.

    I keep everything in an Excel spreadsheet that I keep stored on Dropbox, so I can access it with any of my devices: iPad, iPhone, MacBook Air, iMac. . .

    My spreadsheet isn't that complicated. I just list the tobaccos I have by name in one column, then I have separate columns for manufacturer, date of the tin, how many tins I have, and where they're located (since I store all of my tins in numbered bins in the basement).

    One thing that does make my list a bit unusual, maybe, is that I break out a single name (say, "Black Mallory") into multiple rows based on the tin dates. In other words, my Black Mallory listings look like this:

    Black Mallory Rattray's 1995 1 B24:1 (100g) [indicating 1 tin, in Bin 24]
    Black Mallory Rattray's 2003 3 B24:1 (100g) / 2 (50g)
    Black Mallory Rattray's 2007 6 B13:2 / B14:3 / B19:1 (50g)

    Yes, I could take the time to actually keep every tin from a specific blend in the same bin, but I haven't done that. I've "binned" as I've acquired, so it's kind of a mess!

    And column 4 is totalled at the bottom of my inventory list, so I always know exactly how many tins I have. However, because I count a 1lb. tin the same as a 2oz. tin, I don't have a constantly updating total for how much actual tobacco I have (by weight), only how many "tins."

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    I am an excel fiend and use it for many incomprehensible things. But once I found Tobacco Cellar, I immediately understood that this would be way less maintenance intensive than a basic excel sheet. TC tracks how quickly you smoke each item and then forecasts how long your trove will last. There is a field for tin date, there is even one for serial (which could instead be your Bin dewey decimal number). She's an ugly duckling, but worthwhile to me.

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    Wasn't there a software sponsor on this site like 6 months ago that had a contest and everything?

    Seemed like a big deal at the time but I can't remember the name of it. Not 100% sure what it did exactly either...

    But I think keeping track of things like this was the whole point of the software.

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    Ahhhhhhhhh that's right!

    Sorry to bring up bad memories. I forgot about the kerfuffle at the end.

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    There is obviously an opportunity here for someone to write a front end for Tobacco Reviews that contains some functionality for cellaring. Basically that's what Pipe Tool is, but as I said before, it appears to be abandonware at this point.

    An ideal presentation would be :

    1) Web based front end, with back end data fed real-time by the TR site
    2) Full cellar tracking functionality similar to what the tobaccocellar.com site provides
    3) Social functions to facilitate trading, perhaps

    This is not that hard to code. The only sketchy part is the retrieval and data scrubbing from TR, which is a ColdFusion site.

    If only I knew how to write ASP.NET...

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    I use a pen and paper to keep track of my cellar. I have all my purchases from P&C, smokingpipes and 4 noggins at their sites and I just add em up. I tried using tobacco cellar, but it is way too much work.

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    I keep all my printed receipt's from the shop's I buy from. They're in binder's.

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    +1 cortezattic & Lawrence

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    It's all what you're used to and what works for you. I respect those who can keep track of it all using old school notebook methods, but I work in IT and love technology, and I could never write everything down freehand. I type a heck of a lot faster than I can write, and my penmanship sucks anyway!

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    +1 Lawrence

    I use an Excel Spread Sheet.

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    I tried using tobacco cellar, but it is way too much work.

    I only found it labor intensive the first time I enterrd all my blends. Once I did that it pretty much takes me 5 minutes to update with new purchases. I usually only do that when I get a box of 40 or 50 new tins.

    I wish the software could print labels. I also wish you could enter grams rather than that strange non-metric measurement system you guys use down south. lol

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    I keep everything in an Excel spreadsheet that I keep stored on Dropbox

    Get Dopbox it's free, I even keep a backup on Hotmail. I'm a big believer in the cloud concept, which of course is a courtesy now and companies are fighting for branding when they start charging. You don't actually think they're giving the service of millions of dollars of hardware, software, bandwidth and personal away for nothing?

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    I swapped emails with the writer of Pipe Tool yesterday and according to him, the reason why he can't update the data in his software anymore is due to the fact that the original owner of Tobaccoreviews.com sold the site to Pipes & Tobaccos magazine shortly thereafter. The new regime is unable or unwilling to process the data files for Pipe Tool to keep the software up to date.

    I am guessing that primarily as a print publication and a staff that lacks technical savvy, they don't know how to compile the data dumps needed. I proposed an alternative 'data scrubbing' method where a crawler simply visits the master blend pages for each blend and compiles the information from there. We'll see if that's possible, I guess.

    Pipe Tool *could* be great with some work and an updated front end. It has potential, but if TR is preventing it from becoming all it could be, then it's likely a dead issue.

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    Just started a spreadsheet myself... I'm not cellaring at this point, so it's sort of a combination tobacco tracker and smoking journal, so that I can track my experiences with different blends (and different pipes) and see which variables affect the experience.



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    When I was going through a "hobby" phase, meaning trying everything I could find trying to replace a long gone old favorite, I just used a spreadsheet application. That worked just fine until I settled on my replacement(s). Now I just use my computer to print out decent labels for my jarred bulk purchases.

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