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exbenedict

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 6, 2018
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Ok, so here is my question. My wife is considering letting me smoke in the house, officially only in my study, but I am ok with that, and I was wondering if anyone who also smokes in the house has a recommendation for an odor destroyer, cleanser, remover, whatever that is effective and won't cost an arm and a leg. Preferably something that someone has actually used or is using. Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
11,699
16,207
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
You can reduce the reek some but, it will get into the carpet, drapes, paint, etc. Those little bits of smoke adhere to everything. You won't notice the reek but, non-smoking visitors will.
Others will pipe up with methods they use to mitigate the smell to their satisfaction.
PS
You and the wife will become inured to the odor in time as you most likely have with the aromas in your hair and clothing. Wear it proudly, it IDs you as a proud pipe smoker.

 

ron123

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 28, 2015
541
984
Park Ridge, IL
I've tried a lot of things. Containment is one goal you might want to shoot for. I have a den and I put a sweep on the bottom of the door. I also had a couple of bathroom fans installed in the ceiling and I usually open a window at least a crack, even in winter, which helps the fans by creating a cross breeze. Virginias dissipate the best, while Latakia blends hunker down in the room longer. I tried a HEGA filter air cleaner (about $600 10+ years ago) and it was worthless. Didn't do a thing...I blew smoke at it, and the smoke came right out the other side. A friend uses a Rabbit Air and swore by it, but the filters are expensive and need to be changed regularly...and recently he was bitching that he thought it was about dead. The Sharper Image ozone air cleaners supposedly work well, but you don't want to run them while you're in the room. I tried a lamp berger, and my wife bitched about the smell of the oils I burnt...basically they just masked the smoke. Same thing with Febreeze. I hate to say it, but it's an uphill battle, and I've not found a real magic bullet, having searched for years. A battle worth fighting, but a PITA nevertheless. Good luck.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
9,603
14,669
I've had one of these ozone generators for a few years now and it works pretty good. Nothing is going to be 100%, but if you're limiting it to one room, this will take care of a lot of it.
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Choice-Products-Purifier-Ionizer/dp/B004FGNTYE/ref=sr_1_30?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1526619828&sr=1-30&keywords=ozone+generator

 

jaytex1969

Lifer
Jun 6, 2017
9,517
50,591
Here
I have a standard issue box fan in the window, exhausting to outside.
I cut a piece of cardboard and taped it to the fan, covering the inside, with a hole just a few inches smaller than the fan blade diameter to create more positive one way flow and prevent excess exchange with the warmer/colder air outside.
I fitted a board beside the fan to fill in the gap. A folded hand towel is laid across the top of the fan and positioned to seal the edge by the glass.
Another old towel is rolled and placed at the bottom of the door to lessen the pull of air from other parts of the house.
I keep a shot glass with a flared out top on my desk. I dump pipe ash into it. A match book lays flat on top to contain odor. When it fills, I empty it into a ziplock baggie kept in the trash can. I smoke 1-3 bowls per evening.
No ash or dottle is ever left exposed to the room air. The ceiling fan stays on and the closet door stays closed. The box fan is left running for at least 15 minutes after the last smoke. Then, I close up for the night.
This is the room where we also do most evening TV viewing and my very nonsmoking wife seems comfortable.
I work from 5am until about 1 or 2pm. I only smoke in there from about 3pm until 9pm, maybe midnight on my "weekend" nights.
In the morning, after the room has been closed all night, there is a light smoking aroma but never as bad as entering the home of a cigarette smoker or the tobacconist shop. It's not apparent anywhere else in the house.
I'm coming up on a year of pipe smoking and this arrangement has been a suitable compromise for our household.
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woodsroad

Lifer
Oct 10, 2013
11,585
15,265
SE PA USA
As per usual, Warren has the correct answer.
The most effective way to remove the "aroma" is to exhaust the smoke as it's produced, before it has a chance to adhere to surfaces. Once the smoke is settled, nothing will eliminate the odor. But you'll need smoke close to the exhaust, and it will need to move a lot of CFM's to be effective. Think large and powerful kitchen exhaust hood.
Ozone generators are somewhat effective, but breathing ozone is very bad for the lungs.
Some swear by Lampe Berger, but I found that they only add perfume and never really mask the smell. I also wonder how healthy it is to breath that stuff. Febreeze is an endocrine disruptor and, again, is ineffective as it mostly just adds another layer of (different) odor.
As Warren said, you may become acclimated to the smell of stale smoke, but non-smoking visitors to your house will not be fooled.

 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
43,250
108,355
Some swear by Lampe Berger, but I found that they only add perfume and never really mask the smell.
I just use denatured alcohol in mine, and it works just fine. Then again, I don't produce clouds of smoke when smoking either.

 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
9,603
14,669
Ozone generators are somewhat effective, but breathing ozone is very bad for the lungs.
Yeah, you don't run it while you're in the room. You just run it for a little while with the door closed when you're not going to be in there.

 

dino

Lifer
Jul 9, 2011
1,937
13,448
Chicago
I, too, like the Lampe Berger. I make my own fuel, 91% Isopropyl Alcohol and a few drops of essential oil. There a many oils available to suit your sense of smell. Just don't use a lot. The Lampe Berger is quite effective for my purposes, as it works not only on my latakia blends, but is also great for neutralizing cooking smells, like fried food. And, most importantly, my wife approves.

Dino

 

newbroom

Lifer
Jul 11, 2014
6,088
6,407
Florida
I finally bought a HEPA filter air cleaner. I don't know how great it is, really, but it makes me feel as if I'm trying to keep the place a little less smoky.

My chair is right in front of the unit which is right in front of the intake on my a/c unit.

 

tfdickson

Lifer
May 15, 2014
2,115
40,895
East End of Long Island
My method is similar to Jay’s but without the towels and cardboard. Box fan in the window, let it run a bit after I’m done. I’ve found that the smoke itself is the least of my issues in keeping away odor. More important is getting rid of ash and dottle as soon as I’m done for the night and making sure all loose strands of tobacco that end up on my desk and floor are cleaned up. Once a week vacuuming is the only other thing I do and there is minimal odor in my den and none in the rest of the house.
Ted

 
We've just grown to accept the smell of Virginias in the house as our "smell of home." It's not like cigarettes at all, and we find the aroma quite pleasing. That said, we do have powerful inline vents, to remove smoke quietly. My wife doesn't mind the small as much as just accumulated smoke in the room while trying to watch movies. I have a very good air filter, but they aren't designed to remove smells.

But, when we stay at hotels or rents cars that I smoke in (breaking the rental agreement), I use Ozium spray, which knocks the particles out of the air. So far, after dozens of rooms and about ten rental cars, I've never been questioned. But, using it daily in your house is just not going to be effective.
I think you should start off making an effort to remove the smell, and then just taper off. She will stop smelling it while in the house. She might smell it when re-entering the house after being out all day, but everyone will soon come to see it as just the aroma of "home." Unless you smoke latakia or those foul aromatics. In those cases, you house will smell like ass. :puffy:

A little aromatic, as in a morning bowl with coffee might not be bad, but walking into the home of someone who smokes a lot of aromatics is not as pleasant as you'd think. Virginias and VaPers tend to just smell like quality tobacco to me, very light and natural. I guess a tobacco nazi would hate it, but we've gotten compliments on the aroma often. It covers the smell of dogs, cats, and farts very well. :puffy:

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
11,699
16,207
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
It's really no different than living with a dog, cat or living in a home with a really great chef who cooks Italian all the time. I had a car salesman stick his head in my "trade-in" and immediately observe that I was a smoker and owned a dog. Accumulated odors are why many realtors suggest the "vanilla" ploy before showing a house. Some odors are offensive and some are not, depends on the nose. Kinda like a country boy, used to fresh air, moving to Detroit or L.A., both reek to me.

 

tom12

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 26, 2011
115
148
I use several containers of white wine vinegar that I put around my study. It won't totally eliminate the aroma but if you leave it overnight the smell is gone by the morning.

 
Tom, so you like a McClelland's aroma going on in your smoking room. Try apple vinegar. We clean with it, and we really like the smell, better than white vinegar.
Yeh, before selling, just deep clean any carpets, repaint the walls, and toss a eucalyptus sachet in the main airduct of your HVAC. The place will be as good as new. :puffy:

 
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