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Should I know anything about buying a Bulldog?

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  1. lasttango

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    A nice Bulldog (straight) is on my hotlist - I have been wanting one for a while now. Under $150 would be nice... anyone have a favorite they'd brag about? Is there anything I should know about buying a bulldog?

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    The English varieties are frequently flatulent.

    Seriously, though, check for wall thickness toward the heel of the bowl. This shape is particularly prone to heat damage and burnout in the lower half of the bowl.

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    They tend to have short lifespans, from thin walls and inbreeding.

    Nate @ Moody AL
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    I'd start with a bulldog with bead lines, the little grooves around the bowl. There are some beautiful dogs without bead lines, but it takes more artistry to give them a real 'dog presence. Savenelli, Johs, Stanwell, and Big Ben do some good versions, but I'd shop widely until you find one that's exactly to your taste. Stick with well-known reputable brands. Consider estate pipes, though for $100 to $150, I believe you could get a fine new pipe if you shop widely and selectively. I'd take your time. It's easy to fall in love on your first outing, but I think you'll be better satisfied if you take some time and revisit your favorites over several weeks. For a first 'dog, I'd go smooth, as well as with the bead lines. I really like my Stanwell 32, but it is a small pipe, and first a first 'dog, I'd like my Johs better. But by all means look around. For estates, I'd stick with our mainline sponsors, to get something that is what it says it is, that you will thoroughly enjoy. People love their bulldogs, so try to start right.

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    I have 62 bulldogs, and not a bad dog in the bunch, from Danish to Italian to American, big bowls to small bowls, squats to talls, bents to straight, saddles to tapers, cheap to expencive. I don't think you'll go wrong no matter what dog you get.
    Welcome to the bulldog club. I am crazy about my herd.

    Michael
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    I agree with buroak, bulldogs tend to have a really thin wall towards the base due to its diamond-shaped shank. Rhodesians don't tend to have this issue because they have round shank.

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    I have over two dozen bulldogs and not problem with any. Mainly Dr. Grabows and Peterson. The Pete's are my favorites. There are many bulldogs on SPC for less than $100.

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    I haven't found that the walls get thin, even on my cheapest bullie. Most have cone shaped bowls like a Dublins. But, as with all shapes the heel will get warm.
    What brands have thin walls. I'd love to know.

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  11. shawnofthedead

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    My Peterson sandblast spigot bulldog for example, has really thin walls at the bottom half of the bowl, and that part gets hot far too easily.

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    My Tsuge 426 bulldog has a cylindrical bowl, and no thin spots that I can see.

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    I have a Ferndown, Bark Bulldog, btm right would get extremely hot even slow puffing. I loaded some fireplace mortar repair and did a coating on both sides sweeping thinner going upwards. That did the trick.not enough meat in the V downward part on some of em.

    The Old Cajun
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    I like English bulldogs the best, sweet and loving. But bulldogs are stubborn animals, take longer to train then some of the other breeds!

    John
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    Peterson will give you absolutely classic bulldog shapes (straight and curved) well within your price point.

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    The Stanwell shape 191 is a good one, but I believe it only comes quarter bent. Some good Petes are also quarter bent. But if you like straight bulldogs, go for that -- there are plenty available. 'Looks like BC makes a bistro bulldog, shown at iwanries.com for only $57, but that may be a little too down market for you. You could get that and some other 'dog, and still come in at your $150. Lots of options here.

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    The Stanwell shape 32 is a nice version, as is the Wessex shape 601. I own two 32's and one 601; all three are good quality pipes, each cost less than $100 brand new.

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    My advice would be stay away from the bent bulldogs with tapered stems around group 5 size. Dont want you interfering with me trying to aquire my collection LOL. The bulldog is my favorite shape.

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    Dogs are great pipes. I love their looks. Whether in Meer or Briar they smoke cool for me.

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    I've got one bulldog. A Tsuge bent bulldog. Great smoking pipe.

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    I don't like sharp edges on a pipe.I hold my thumb around the back of the bowl when I smoke so the shape of the shank of a bulldog bothers me.This probably isn't an issue to most but it keeps me away from this shape.

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    I think there are two kinds of Bulldogs: The ones with the wide and shallow chamber, and the ones with the more traditional chamber. If you are going to smoke Englishes or Balkans in it, my humble advice is to get the shallower chamber. They seem to work better with those blends for some reason and the smoke does not get so bitter near the bottom, because they are not so deep I guess.

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    Hey, let us know when you finally find your first bulldog. You might want to look at pipesandcigars.com Big Ben bulldog with free shipping. I'd shop far and wide and learn a lot.

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    You should make sure it's had all of it's shots......

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    By far my favorite shape but I prefer the 1/4 bent. My favorites are Savinelli, Brebbia, and my commissioned Tinsky and Layton.

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    British, French, American, just buy one. Maybe two? I have a Butz Chocum bulldog I picked up brand new and a few estates also. Each and everyone is a great smoker.

    Think slow, act fast.
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    just buy one. Maybe two?

    Why didn't someone tell me this when I started?

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    The Sav 673 shape is a good bulldog. It's quarter bent, but not much, and has bead lines. It has a sort of Peterson look for a Sav, and an ample bowl. The Opera version I was gifted has a solid feel but isn't heavy.

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    I have a number of them and love the type. To me they are truly a tailored looking pipe.

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    If it barks it might bite.

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    Here's a Sav, no bead line(s), but a handsome pipe:

    http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/savinelli/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=166561

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    The bull dog is the most represented shape in my collection.
    There isn't a bad smoker in the bunch. My preference is for the squat style, but as far as shape I don't think you could go wrong.

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    A Red Nose is a good choice. Clip the ears if you must, but leave the tail. They need it to keep a proper balance.

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    Here you go, smooth bulldog with bead line, reputable brand, good discount:

    http://www.iwanries.com/Savinelli-Laguna-Smooth-504-P14776C2187.cfm

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    I have had some good luck on eBay but I'm picky about what I bid on. I never spend much unless I can see the pipe in person. The top one is the Butz Chocum I got at a local shop for $50 brand new. The bottom one is a Bond Street I got on eBay for $9!

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    lasttango, I know I'm the one who advised you to shop a lot and take your time ... still do. But let us know what you finally do! Be interesting to know.

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    Prior to purchasing a Bulldog, I recommend having a firm grasp on the laws of gravity and thermodynamics.

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    I am nuts about Bulldogs! One thing that I find strange is the near absence of the Bullcap or Haiti shape. Last night I was lucky in finding one but it is only my second pipe in this particular shape. Are they out of fashion?

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    Still taking my time... so far my favorites include some ligne bretagnes, rattrays and comoys...

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    lasttango, good for you. Be sure to get the filter or no-filter arrangement you want. Best is if you can get the pipe designed for smoking the way you'll smoke it, but adapters can be entirely satisfactory too. I'm lining up my Johs straight saddle stem bulldog for a smoke while I vicariously shop for yours. Ha! Also my Stanwell shape 32 bulldog, my Dr. Grabow Royalton bulldog, and my Peterson Around the World bulldog in honor of Ireland. Four, I think that's it, two bent, two straight. Love them dogs.

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    Well, I did get my bulldog... I decided to get another Boswell... I like my other Boswell so much, I had to have another. It's not the most traditional looking Bulldog, but it fits the bill and I know I'll like it. Thanks for all the advice on Bulldog pipes and dogs! We'll be getting another dog in a year or two or three... likely not a bulldog...

    For my next pipe, sometime between this second and next Thanksgiving.... I am in the market for a longer shanked straight billiard... dark, deep black sandblast... dunhill makes some pretty ones, but I am probably in the market for a more affordable one.

    Posted 3 years ago #
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    Make sure that it's not cursed, haunted or possessed. They're a pain to exorcise.

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    lasttango, Congratulations on your new Boswell bulldog. They can get to be a bad habit in terms of PAD. I think you'll really enjoy this one.

    Johs does nice blast billiards, good prices and fine smokers. I think he gets especially light weight briar, good stuff.

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    Here's an example of a Johs blast:
    http://www.smokingpipes.com/pipes/new/johs/moreinfo.cfm?product_id=187083

    Posted 3 years ago #

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