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Seriously...?The New Vauen Diamond Skeleton

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  1. pipebuddy

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    Would you pay $400 for THAT? Not me; even if it was given to me, I wouldn't smoke it. "Special heat-resistant polymer"....

    Look, on top of that, at how badly the stem is fitted to the shank. This looks so totally plastic...

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  2. jpmcwjr

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    No.

    But I also would not buy—at those prices and above—some of the briar free-hands that some think are beautiful.

    Where found? Description?

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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  3. pipebuddy

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    This one is offered at smokingpipes.com. But there are worse models in this series...

    http://www.vauen.de/en/pipes/diamond.aspx?ref=9

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    I like the non-skeletonized blue diamond version... Honestly though, I'm so tired of people using a 3D printer and then charging absurd prices for their products.

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    Sorry I like the feel of wood or corn in my hand not 3D printed Lego material.

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    Looks Gothic, in a bad way.

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    At the risk of re-opening the whole Werner Mummert silly pipe debacle, that is not in my wheelhouse at any price.

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    Nor mine!

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  9. pipesdownunder

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    I kinda like it!

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    Or maybe heavy metal, in a bad way.

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    Likely designed by an engineer who lacks a sense of aesthetics: The principal might work but the look is hideous...

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    I'm just not sure if I want a bowl that thin.

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    I actually like the concept and overall look of the pipe portion. I agree the look is destroyed by that miserable stem fit. A clean and proportionate stem fit always looks good but becomes paramount when the pipe has such clean, straight lines and geometric shilloutte. For the price I would expect much better fit and finish.

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    That's for the guy who also likes skeleton wrist watches.

    Rebels been rebels since I don't know when
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    Looks cheesy to me.

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    It also looks like there are gaps between the briar and the skeleton, I think that throws it off too. I think it would look much less cheesy if the execution was better.

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    +1 Daimyo

    Agreed. As they say, "The Devil is in the details".

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    Agreed. As they say, "The Devil is in the details".

    This coming FROM the devil so you know it's true.

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    Well....Somebody bought it.

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    That is just gross.

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    I actually like that watch.

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    The watch does look much better. The pipe just looks cheap. Very sad to do this to a pipe.

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    I actually like that watch.

    I'm a watch collector of sorts & some skeleton watches look better than others.

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    I don't hate it, but the polymer turns me off. And the price.

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    OK, I'll be perfectly blunt... butt ugly in my opinion and please lets not get into any discussion of what 'art' is. Take that to the Werner Mummert thread. I need the feel of the briar,cob, Meerschaum, etc. in my hand and to feel it's warmth, or possibly if it's getting a tad too warm. That, and aside from the fact that the fit of the whole thing looks terrible. What's next, making an entire pipe with a 3D printer! Thanks, but I'll take my $400 elsewhere and I honestly wouldn't pay $20 for it as I could take the $20 and purchase a couple of quality cobs that look and feel like a pipe should.

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    Well stated, phil. Couldn't agree more.

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    The watch...me likey...the pipe...not so much.

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    I think if they had used metal it might have been ok, but with the frayed edges on the plastic, well and that it's plastic, it leaves a lot to be desired.
    You can get away with an aesthetic like that a lot better if it's shiny. (and not plastic)
    (3D printing metal lays a powder just the same, but then uses a laser to melt the pattern.)

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    Ohh, and if you used metal you could sand blast the entire thing, giving texture on the Briar and a matte finish on the metal, also cleaning up the burrs.

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    Vauen outsourced pipe making to the Chinese? $400? LMAO I can buy a freaking Dunhill for that price.

    Albert Einstein was once quoted as saying, “I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgment in all human affairs.” One of the reasons behind this statement is that pipe smoking is meant to be a slow leisurely activity. It takes patience to smoke a pipe. Unlike cigarettes and cigars, there is a certain amount of technique to smoking a pipe. Where cigars and cigarettes can just be picked up, lit and puffed on, pipes require the development of a technique in order to get the best smoking experience.
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    1 Dunhill, or 1 Ashton Pebble Grain XX and 1 Old Church XX for 30 bucks more, Pipe Monk. I'll take the Ashton's.

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    I like the natural wood look, and if human pretense is to improve on it, the result had better be a lot more aesthetically pleasing and functional than that pipe.

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    The scaffold thingy (frame around the pipe) takes a medium-small pipe and makes it rather bulky, so though the geometrics catch my eye, it is more like a visual trick than an appealing tobacco pipe. I'm mostly pretty open to odd, original, design-forward pipes, at least as a viewer. I guess as a smoker, I like a pipe that looks and acts comfortable, so the smoke is about me and not the pipe. If I were a pipe club or pipe show guy, I might be drawn to the occasional dramatic pipe, as conversation pieces. Smoking on my own, which I mostly do, a theatrical pipe would just feel peculiar -- it might interfere with my tin foil helmet.

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    Hah! mso, you sure have a way with words!

    I dislike any straight lines in a pipe, except for those described by some shanks and many stems on straight pipes. And even then it's usually softened by being round for the most part. Well, some panel pipes—in briar—are just fine to my eye.

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    The first thing that popped into my head was .... BATMAN!

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    The first thing that popped into my head was .... BATMAN!

    Good analogy. You also have to consider the fact that one can take a piece of crap briar and then merely cover the flaws up with with a hodge-podge of ugly looking plastic and then have the audacity to charge some ridiculous price. I imagine it's only natural to try out new and different things, but I seriously think this idea/design will fall flat on it's ass. Whatever, and to each his own.

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    I think a few things need to be considered for perspective here.
    This is a variation on an existing design. http://www.tobaccopipes.com/vauen-diamond-3d-printer-made-tobacco-pipe/

    And I think they've done worse.
    http://www.tobaccopipes.com/vauen-o/
    http://www.tobaccopipes.com/vauen-stripe/

    But in general their pipes are high quality, and Vauen is probably my favourite brand (they have nice Churchwardens, use acrylic stems, and pretty much everything they sell has a 9mm filter slot).

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    Who made the cow pipe? That should be a new low bar...

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    That was actually Vauen as well.

    They still make some pipes in that line but at least they had enough sense to stop making something so udderly ridiculous
    Unfortunately I can't find any links to a cow pipe, so here's something almost as cheesy instead.
    http://www.vauen.de/en/pipes/pipeline/pipeline-cheese_cheese.aspx?cid=104&page=0&ref=9

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    That's cheesy.

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    So if you guys don't like these, you're going to HATE the Havanas.

    I agree with frozenchurchwarden. Vauen takes BIG risks compared to most of the other "big" brands and some of those risks are disasterous. But I give them props for taking them and some of them are genius. Nothing ventured, nothing gained right? The Fujis, Purisme and Speed are all sort of weird series that hit the mark perfectly. You won't get those without some crap along the way.

    I've held at least 1,000 of them over the past couple years and own four. They are all, even the weird ones, exceptionally done pipes. As much as I love Savinelli and Peterson classics, I can't say the same about their consistency (which is sometimes spotty). I still think a Vauen Basic is the best first briar pipe for new smokers.

    Oh, and although I'm not a fan of the cutout diamond, the original one (the plane black) actually feels pretty nice in hand. Not at all like a lego.

    Renia
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    Good Mother of Pipes! What the hell is this? Vauen has some strange lines/ways in pipe making...

    Sorry for my poor English. Keep in mind, that you can't speak Hungarian...
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  43. deathmetal

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    Here's the cow pi(p)e:

    http://www.pfeifenkonsulat.at/shop/index.php?a=5078&lang=eng

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  44. brudnod

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    Love the utter. Very tactile...

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  45. phil67

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    Call me crazy, and or old fashion, but I much prefer smoking pipes... not toys (especially $400 toys).
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    Here's the cow pi(p)e:

    Yep, cow pie indeed as it looks like shit. Once again... a toy, not a pipe.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  46. lohengrin

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    I rather agree with Reniaeats, but I think a well known company should try and select among all the strange ideas it can face. Moreover this pipe and the cow too could be pretty toys if coming from China for 10 dollars not 400.
    Last, but not the least, that pipe gives me an uncomfortable feeling, something like this:

    Posted 3 years ago #
  47. kinnscience

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    Wonderful marketing. Take a pipe.... surround it with ... plastic .... call it a diamond ..... and sell it for 5x the money. Well done.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  48. oldmansmoking

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    That’s no pipe, it’s rubbish. Just a way of trying to make money using a 3D printer.
    Vauen Diamond £225.95
    The award winning designer pipe conceptualized by Markus Bruckner sets the Diamond standard. It is the first pipe whose outer skin is created in 3D printing and mimics the shape of a cut diamond in its design. With an internal insert made of briar wood, you have a true world first of VAUEN in your hand.
    Totally rubbish although they have improved from 2 years ago!

    A pipe is the fountain of contemplation, the source of pleasure, the companion of the wise ☪️
    OLDMANSMOKING
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