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    Okay, so I'm 21 and I was smoking a cheap pipe I picked up from my cigar shop a couple of years ago, until I got a new girlfriend and she didn't really like the idea, so of course I threw it straight into the trash can.. I know, I know, you can dog on me for doing that. But, now a couple of years later, we have been through a lot and have come to love one another and plan to get married in the near future. Now, she says she doesn't mind me getting another pipe, so I went to the cigar shop and picked up a Medico straight pipe 100% briar wood with a small bowl and some tobacco. I then did some research (too late, huh?) and realized that my Medico pipe really isn't a very quality pipe and could be hampering the enjoyment of my smokes.

    So, I have been searching through here and had decided to pick up a nice Boswell pipe, but at $80-$180.. I really won't be able to afford one of those for a good while. I'm going to pick up a couple of corn cobs to start a rotation with, but can you guys suggest some pipes that are just as good as the Boswells for a little less? Maybe in the $40-$75 range?

    Also looking for some good aromatics, as I am not really impressed with the blends from the cigar shop (some blends he has in a jar, one called M-1 and the other called HS-3). Any suggestions? Boswell tobacco a good way to go there?

    I have also never tried an English blend and really want to try one or two to see if I would be interested, so any suggestions there would be awesome, too.

    Thanks ahead of time fellas!

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    First, welcome to the forum.

    For that price range, I would check out our advertisers who sell estate pipes and see what you can find. You could easily come up with a nice pipe in that range.

    A lot of guys like the Frog Morton series and recommend them as first English blends. I personally don't care for 'em, but you might. My personal faves on "all-day" English blends are Peterson's Old Dublin or Sam Gawith's Squadron Leader.

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    Boswell pipes are good but they sell out quickly when new ones are added to their website.

    Savinelli is a good pipe and is priced less than $100 for some of their different lines.

    You might want to consider joining the NASPC:

    http://www.naspc.org

    Some of the site sponsors offer discounts to members on pipes.

    I hope this information is helpful to you.

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    Welcome aboard. Looking into Savinelli and Peterson.

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    +1 on sav's and estates. Boswell tobaccos are top notch. Wish Internet was big when I started. Hopefully you have less learning curve.
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    Wow, thanks for the quick responses guys!

    I will look into some Savinelli and Petersons.. not sure about the estate pipes. I wouldn't really know what to look for to know if it's in good smoking condition and would definitely not know how to do any repairs.

    Any more suggestions for pipes/tobacco are welcome!

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    I would also recommend Savinelli pipes. I have three and they are good smokers. You should also look at corncob pipes; Missouri Meerschaum is the source. I have the Country Gentleman, and it is a great smoke. Plus they are quite inexpensive.
    As far as tobacco, I would recommend Lane 1Q or Lane RPL-6; for a first English tobacco, Peter Stokkebye's Proper English or English Luxury are both smooth and flavorful smokes.
    If you find you like the English/Balkan tobaccos, you might check out Hearth and Home's Larry's Blend; it is stronger and more complex than either of the Stokkebye tobaccos I recommended. It and the other tobaccos are available from site sponsor pipesandcigars/com.
    Welcome to the forum and happy smoking.

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    Thanks flint! I'll check those out!

    So a member messaged me and told me to check out some estate pipes on this website: http://www.jamesislandpiper.com

    Are any of you familiar with this guy? Good/bad experiences?

    Should I swing for a nice estate pipe or a new one from there? If Estate, are there any name brands on the site I should steer clear from?

    This is a new Savinelli he has listed for only around $50:

    http://www.jamesislandpiper.com/store.php?seller=JamesIslandPiper&navt1=110811&navt2=110865&navt3=112626&pd=4929041

    Is this a decent pipe?

    Thanks!

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    Welcome to our predeliction. Both of those JIP pipes look very good indeed. I've gotten pipes from DonS there and he is a pleasure to deal with.

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    Thanks lestrout!

    So I can't really go wrong with either huh? Thanks a lot! Good to have some justification for my order, and it helps so much to have people that are knowledgeable about the subject. I have learned the pipe smoking is really more of a lifestyle than a hobby. It seems that it takes years to really learn your own way to do things and to know what you like. I love the idea of this being an ever-changing, lifelong experience. Thanks for the help, guys!

    Keep any & all suggestions coming!

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    Hello pflan and welcome to PM Forums. Here's a couple solid, quality pipes for you. Either one will provide you with many years of great smoking:

    http://pipesandcigars.com/sanawivubesm2.html#.UOo-RW_LcxE

    http://www.finckcigarcompany.com/products/group/category/Nording_Natural

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    Hi rothnh,

    Thanks for the links! I like the shape of the pipes AND the price, but for some reason that "natural" look just isn't doing it for me.

    I just came across this one:

    http://store.pipesandcigars.com/bjviclpopiap1.html#.UOpBMOR9KuI

    What do you think?

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    Although.. the looks of the Nording is kind of growing on me. It also says that the finish will age and darken.. So that could be a possibility.

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    I like the natural. It is honest, hides no sins like some of those with paint or shellac and they smoke cool. The naturals are not "shiny bling," rather rugged and individualistic (just like me LOL).

    Neither the Savinelli or the Nording are widely available BTW.

    Those Savs are a special purchase by P&C and they run out of those often, plus the rubber (vulcanite) stem is rare on an Italian pipe today.

    The Nording is also a special purchase from Eric Nording by Bill Finck in San Antonio.

    Both are priced considerably lower that their MSRP, otherwise neither would be in your price range.

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    Welcome to the forum pflan. Check out the estate pipes on smokingpipes.com.

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    Great pipe suggestions , as for Aromatic tobacco , Boswells , 1q , and trout stream are great IMO ! Boswells magnum is a good light English , and northwoods is also great ! Welcome to the forum !

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    I'd also recommend the Tsuge pipes on smokingpipes.com. I'm really enjoying mine and it was $60.

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    Yep, +1 on those Tsuge pipes at SPC -- they are also a special purchase and priced at 50% or more off the MSRP.

    While the naturals are more to my liking, I would have bought one of those Tsuge pipes myself, but find them a bit small for my taste -- I bet they make a great flake pipe though -- and the styles they're offered in are pure class.

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    Hmmmm, I am liking the look of those Tsuge pipes. My decision is getting harder and harder. Financially, I am only in a position to purchase one pipe between $40-75 and then a couple of cheap corn cobs to get a rotation going.

    Also, I think I will make an order of about 5-6 blends from Boswell's pretty soon.

    Keep the pipe recommendations coming, fellas! Having a tough time deciding between the Savinelli I listed above, the natural Nording that roth recommended, and one of the Tsuge pipes as of right now.

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    That Bjarne viking pipe you showed is a lot like one I almost got for Christmas. I opted for another Savinelli instead. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the ones you have shown or been recommended.

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    I have two Brigham's, and they're a great quality pipe made in Canada that are very reasonably priced. I have this particular one and paid a lot more for it up here in Canada! http://pipesandcigars.com/brvopi1ruap.html

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    Hmmm.. so really, any of these pipes will smoke much better than my cheap little Medico?

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    Most likely.

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    There's nothing "wrong" with your Medico.

    But don't expect to do cartwheels about how much more terrific your new pipe will smoke compared to your Medico. However, since any of those pipes we suggested here are of higher quality compared to the Medico, it stands to reason, and correctly so, that yes, any of those should smoke better than your Medico overall.

    I recommended the "naturals" because botht those naturals do not have anything that could cause your problems, especially to someone new to pipe smoking. It's natural finish is not sealed with varnish or paint to burn hotter, and potentially blister or crack. The bowl is unlined, without the glass-like silicate or the pre-carb bowl lining many of the other pipes have that make it much harder to break-in (like many of those others recommended here). Plus I like rubber stems over plastic/lucite (I know the Savinelli has a vulcanite stem, not sure about the Nording though).

    Now getting back to your rotation, it is also a good idea to get a Missouri Meerschaum Corn Cob pipe or two -- even if you're not crazy about how a cob looks, I seriously doubt that you'll be anything but very pleased about the very small amount of money your cob(s) cost you compared to the pleasure you get smoking them. Just make sure you get an MM brand cob though.

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    Rothnh makes some excellent points. Definitely buy a cob or two from Missouri Meerschaum. They smoke great and will allow you to give your briars a rest.

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    Hmmmm.. maybe something like this would work.. I'd have plenty for a rotation, plus some to keep in storage!

    http://corncobpipe.com/index.php/specials/10-pipe-grab-bag-of-smokable-seconds.html

    But yeah, I'm still deciding between a Nording, a Sav, a Bjarne, and a Tsuge for a nice briar.

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    More than a few puffers on PM Forums have grabbed that bag of cobs from MM -- yes, they are "seconds" -- but everyone who posted about their purchase of these bags have stated they are quite pleased with them.

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    Any of the tobacco from pipeinhand is topnotch stuff especially the halflings leaf for an aromatic.

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    Great! I may grab a bag of them then.

    Thanks for the tobacco suggestion mctrav. I'll check it out!

    Also, has anyone heard of Lorenzo pipes? This one looks beautiful to me and for under $50:

    http://pipesandcigars.com/losppibemame.html#.UOtJKuR9KuI

    It has a matte finish, made in Italy. It is made of Briar w/ a Meerschaum lined bowl and a vulcanite stem.

    What do you guys think?

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    I own a couple older Lorenzo pipes that were made when the Lorenzo factory was still operational (it closed in the 1990's). Both mine are stained what was a signature red-orange hue when new and now, after years of smoking, they've developed a really nice darker patina.

    Not sure about the new Lorenzo stuff. I believe these guys (link below) still have some pipes left from a bulk purchase, but they're all better quality "new old stock" and as such sell for more $$. Still a decent price though, IMO:

    http://www.pipetobacco.com/lorenzo-pipes.html

    They also have a promotion going - buy any three pipes from them and the third (least expensive of the 3) is free.

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    roth, I really can't afford those Lorenzos right now.. much less 2-3 of them!

    So, the Lorenzo I posted may not be as high quality? What about the Meerschaum in the bowl? Positives/negatives?

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    So, the Lorenzo I posted may not be as high quality? What about the Meerschaum in the bowl? Positives/negatives?

    The simple answer is, I think not.

    On pipes at that price, the meerschaum lining might well be pressed meerschaum. Some, including me, are not fans of meerschaum lined pipes anyway, much less a pressed meer lined one.

    Now don't take that as reason to dismiss that pipe entirely -- it very well could be a fantastic smoker -- but yes, if it were me, I'd get those MM Cobs and save some more money so you can then get a better pipe.

    Ask any seasoned puffer and they will always tell you, "Get the best pipe you can afford," so it sort of makes sense to find that pipe you want and then save a bit until you can buy it rather than "settling" because it's in your price range ATM.

    I suggested those two naturals earlier in this thread because, putting myself in your shoes, back when I was your age, it's harder to be patient and I know I would have been totally pleased with either one of them. I still have my first pipe BTW, and I still enjoy smoking it -- it was free with two pouches of tobacco.

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    Lots of good suggestions and people are leading you down the right path, but, and it has already been said to some degree, don't expect this new pipe to suddenly make the difference. That Medico might not be expensive, but it's likely that, in the hands of someone with proper smoking technique, it would be a fine smoker. Just because you pay a little more for a pipe, it won't necessarily cover your technique flaws. I have several Dr. Grabows, newer/cheaper Kaywoodies and a Medico and they generally smoke just fine and sometimes just as well as a $150 pipe, when I pay attention to what I'm doing.

    Good luck on your search. It's always exciting to get a new pipe, but don't forget to focus on the technique.

    Cheers!

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    One thing about the Naturals that Roth recommended, maybe it is my imagination, but they feel a lot cooler in my hand when smoking than the shiney high varnished/painted ones. They don't start out as "Pretty" but they smoke well to me. Crap, now I want another one.

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    Thanks fellas.

    At this point, from your suggestions and knowledge, I think the Nording natural pipe is in the number one spot right now. Followed by the Sav I mentioned well above (not the natural). Followed by either a Tsuge or the Lorenzo.

    I believe I'd be happy with any of them. The main reason I want another pipe is because of the small bowl size of m Medico. And if I'm getting another one, I figured it might as well be a decent one made by a trusted brand.

    But oh yes, I know I definitely need to work on my technique. I am beginning to pick up on some things that work for me, so.. that's a good sign I would say.

    Also, what would you guys suggest as some good tobaccos to steer away from the aros? I've heard that English blends tend to have a lot more flavor than aros.

    Thanks again and again, good sirs!

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    As a newer smoker, I would say try a little bit of everything, budget allowing of course, to find what you like. I only smoke a limited number of aromatics. So many don't seem to have any real flavor. The Boswell aromatics seem better at that. I do enjoy their Berry Cobbler on occasion. I also will smoke 1Q or Erinmore Flake regularly. Frog Morton was suggested as a good intro to English/latakia and I think it's as good a place to start as any. I tend to smoke English blends more than any other major type of tobacco. Carter Hall, Prince Albert, Sir Walter Raliegh, and Walnut, a personal favorite, are often found at the local drug store or corner shop and are all more than worthy of consideration. For me Virginia and VA/Pers took the longest to get used to, though now I do enjoy them. I like Anniversary Kake from H&H, Luxury Bullseye Flake and Orlik Golden Slice. The nice thing about getting a bag of cobs is not having to worry too much about ghosting a more expensive pipe. Particularly if you go down the road of the last major tobacco category, Lakeland! I've only enjoyed a few more subtle examples like Condor and the rather mild Lakeland Brickle from H&H, but I enjoy the floral, almost reminds me of rye bread in a way, notes of those two, particularly Condor. Man, I love Condor! Anyway, there are many options now as you figure out what you like. Speaking of Lakeland, if you want a real kick in the pants, that leans towards the heavy tonquin flavoring side of things, pick up some 1792 Flake. Smoke it carefully...you have been warned!

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    Brewshooter,

    I'll keep your post in mind when I make up some shopping carts full of tobacco soon!

    Thanks!

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    Also, what would you guys suggest as some good tobaccos to steer away from the aros? I've heard that English blends tend to have a lot more flavor than aros.

    I'd suggest Dunhill Early Morning Pipe. I doubt it would disappoint you.

    Here's hoping you pick the natural Nording or the natural Savinelli.

    In any case, best of luck to you, Pflan, and let us know how you make out!

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    Thanks for the suggestion roth!

    The Nording is winning the battle right now, the only thing is that I can't find any measurements. I want a medium-largish sized bowl, but the picture looks somewhat small to me.

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    That Nording is a medium size. If you want, call Bill Finck and ask him for measurements. If I were you, I'd also talk to Bill about his bulk tobacco blends and have him help you pick out one or three samples to go with the pipe. Finck's has some very good bulk blends and they won't disappoint and neither will that Nording.

    Best of luck and let us know how you make out

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    Thanks roth!

    Will do! You've been a great help, as have the rest of you!

    Will post the pipe that I decide on right here once I do.

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    Philip - as it turns out, I have a Nording just like that one at Finck's. CupoJoe's also has one though it costs more, but their pic might give you a better idea of size: http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/spgm?dpt=W&srch=DW&item=norsgs00m

    I can measure mine if you want - it's bigger than most cobs, about a Group4 in Dunhillspeak.

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    Yep, same pipe, but $20 more at Cup O' Joe's.

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    Thanks lestrout! Hmmmm, the bowl does seem to be fairly tall. Probably twice the height of my Medico.. and at $20 cheaper over at Finck's.. I may just pick it up.

    Also, just to let you guys know, a site member has volunteered to send me a pipe and some samples of tobacco free of charge! He is sending me a nice pipe that may have a couple of imperfections, but he has buffed it up for me and I am excited to see the final product! He is sending it out tomorrow, so I will be anxiously awaiting the package. He has been nothing but helpful and hospitable, just like the rest of the members here.

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