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pipebaum81

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Nov 23, 2014
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I recently read that rim darkening on a pipe is due to novice lighting technique of the pipe allowing the flame to char the bowl's rim. Is this truly the case? I find that the rim of my first pipe is slightly darkened due to the smoke build up from smoldering tobacco when not drawing. Thoughts?
j/B

 

darthcider

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Jan 24, 2014
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Good old spit on a cloth and some elbow grease will confirm char or as you suspect smoke residue.

 

freakiefrog

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Dec 26, 2012
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Mississippi
This is why I use stick matches. Turn the match parallel to the bowl when lighting and if the flame gets to wide I can just puff it out and grab a new match. Also tamping after the first and if you do a second char lite will help to as the leaf springs up..I will say this that there are some bowl shapes that seem to just be prone to char. I've noticed that the thinner the "ridge" is at the bowl opening the more prone to a char it is..

 

torque

Can't Leave
May 21, 2013
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Rim darkening can certainly be from bad lighting techniques, I have a few estates that can attest to that, but 90% of what I see is tar stains and not burnt wood. A simple trick I've learned is to keep a soft cloth at hand while I smoke. As the bowl heats it lowers the viscosity of the tar deposits and quite a bit of it can be wiped off the rim. If you are consistent then your rim will stay relatively clean of deposits. Just wipe it after a bowl but before it cools down, you'll be surprised how much yuck will come off.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I tolerate some rim char. Most of my pipes seem to not get char, with a little care. A few with lighter stains

and thinner rims do get blackened beyond the use of spit and elbow grease. I use matches always. Lighters

violate my sense of pipe ritual. (If you like 'em, it's good; lighters are nifty gadgets, just not for me.)

 

sablebrush52

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Jun 15, 2013
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Moisten the rim with a bit o spit before applying fire and you will substantially lower the risk of charring the rim. Not overfilling the bowl also helps. A truly charred rim is the result of careless practice.

 

condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
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I thought 'rim darkening' was caused by not washing the old under carriage and using too little bog roll! On a serious note I have never noticed it too much of meerschaum pipes, although I do have a billiard that was quite scorched when I got it but the rim polished up very well.

 

kf4bsb

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Mar 23, 2013
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Condorlover1, I am sitting in my office at work and just read your post. I laughed so hard people actually walk up to my door to see what was going on.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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On behalf of char, my Savenelli Oscar Lucite prince with its bright orange stain has gotten a little blackened at

the rim which serves to balance what some see as the rather fussy look of the prince shape. This prince looks

like he's come from a fire sale, but it's a great pipe for blends needing a fairly large wide bowl. No fussy

prince for this pipe, my only prince shape. I have an author and diplomat that also provide the wider bowl,

that don't develop char.

 

khartman

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Jan 6, 2015
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Being that I'm a beginner, is this something to avoid in the long run? Can it potentially ruin the pipe if not careful and continuously charring the rim when lighting/relighting the pipe?

 

freakiefrog

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Dec 26, 2012
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Being that I'm a beginner, is this something to avoid in the long run? Can it potentially ruin the pipe if not careful and continuously charring the rim when lighting/relighting the pipe?

Seeing as how many of us see our pipes as much of works of hand made art as a fine smoking tool we, or should say I like to keep mine in as good a shape as I can. Because briar is wood and rim char is basically burnt wood and thus damage, this is a less than desirable thing to me at any rate. Damaged briar = unhappy Frog

 

pipebaum81

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Nov 23, 2014
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Because briar is wood and rim char is basically burnt wood and thus damage, this is a less than desirable thing to me at any rate
Spot on freakiefrog. If it happens over long term use then I consider it just signs of love and good smoking. I do my best to keep my flame soft and away.
As a follow up, the darkening that I was observing wiped out off with some bottled water and a soft towel. I just wet the towel and gently rubbed off what turned out to be smoke/tar buildup.

 

mustanggt

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Dec 6, 2012
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I can't imagine any of us would ruin the rim on a pipe through arrant smoking technique. I saw Holmes in a Jeremy Brett episode take a pair of tongs, pluck a red hot coal from the fireplace, and light it. I was horrified!!! 8O

 

conlejm

Lifer
Mar 22, 2014
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Not as noticeable a problem on sandblast or rusticated pipes, or for that matter silver-capped ones!

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I'm with pipebaum on the idea that a little char on the brim often denotes a pipe that gets grabbed off the

rack most often and is therefore a badge of honor.

 

IslandCobFog

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Feb 28, 2014
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I mainly smoke cobs and would like to know how i can get the rims to look shiney and have some depth to them. Ive seen it before on well used cobs. Its almost like the have clearcote on them

 

tarheel1

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 16, 2014
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My Northern Briars has a bit of rim dqrkening, but flame has never touched the rim. I guess on a very light stain the heat and tar will darken it a bit. I need to clean it, but what 2ill not take off the shine or stain? Most people would not notice this little bit of darkening.

 

buroak

Lifer
Jul 29, 2014
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On the one hand, I am with pipebaum81 and mso489 - a bit of rim char is a mark of honor and love. On the other hand, sablebrush52 is right about serious rim char. My "special" pipes are never overfilled, and flame seldom touches the rim, never intentionally. My knockabout pipes are often piled high to get a strong ember from the start (so I can put on a windscreen without extinguishing my pipe) and the rims are often darkened as a result. I sometimes wonder which pipes I actually love better, my trusty knockabouts (typically cobs or low-end American estates) or my pampered indoors pipes (typically higher-end American or English estates).

 
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