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Reddit's Pipe Tobacco Market Has Been Closed

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  1. cigrmaster

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    I just read this on another site and figured people here might want to know. Sounds like someone from their legal department decided they shouldn't expose themselves to the liability associated with tobacco. I wonder how much business was actually being done there?

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    I never actually bought any tobacco from Reddit, but I did get a few blending recipes that were posted there.
    Hell, I didn't even know they sold pipe tobacco there... dammit, missed out again!

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    It was a VERY active market with a significant amount of buy/sale/trade activity daily.

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    FB has a lot of buy/sell/trade activity as well - I wonder how long until they pull the plug.

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    Too bad tobacco production isn't the lifeblood of some socially marginalized group of sexually fluid tri-racial non-cis-gendered advocates for an endangered species of rodent in Tibet, cuz then they'd be all for it.

    As it is, though, tobacco is an evil plot to take over the world by a Hitleresque cadre of sadistic hypercapitalists who exploit the underclasses, so it must be categorically rejected and condemned in every way.

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    FB has a lot of buy/sell/trade activity as well - I wonder how long until they pull the plug.
    They already did.

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    Do not be mislead. This is something that is going to affect the whole interwebs. There are negative repercussions for the SESTA/FOSTA bill that just passed today.

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    This is something that is going to affect the whole interwebs. There are negative repercussions for the SESTA/FOSTA bill that just passed today.

    What does tobacco have to do with sex trafficking?

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    What does tobacco have to do with sex trafficking?

    Clearly you haven't smoked aged Haddo's

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    Ah. Everything makes sense, now...

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    Ok boys and girls, no talking about the sex bill that was just passed. That is an issue for a different thread. Let's please keep this tobacco related.

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    I liked where Sable was going with Haddo's Delight, though.

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    Thanks for the chuckle George and Sable; not only is Sable the Bard of the Barlings, but also he is the Bard of The Inscrutable.

    After some time he felt for his pipe. It was not broken, and that was something. Then he felt for his pouch, and there was some tobacco in it, and that was something more. Then he felt for matches and he could not find any at all, and that shattered his hopes completely.

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    There are people buying and selling tobacco all over Facebook, still.

    They may not allow it in community sales pages, but in tobacco groups, it's alive and kicking.

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    Is there a way to look at facebook without having an account? I ain't joining for nothing. I am in hiding and I can't have people know where I am.

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    Is there a way to look at facebook without having an account? I ain't joining for nothing. I am in hiding and I can't have people know where I am.

    Not for the purposes you'd want it for - all the buy/sell/trade groups are closed and you have to join them to see any content.

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    Thanks Tom, maybe I will get one of my kids to let me use their account.

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    Thanks Tom, maybe I will get one of my kids to let me use their account.

    To be honest, there isn't a whole lot to see in the groups when it comes to tobacco. At least as of late, it's mostly people trying to offload tins of Frog Morton for $45/bucks each and then everyone else bitching at them for it. It's much more useful for the occasional nice pipe or accessory.

    Trading is fairly easy to do on that platform though. Just don't expect to see 2000 Westminster or anything like that on there.

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    This is not good news for any body. Never used Reddit though I looked at it. The pressures around sales of tobacco just keep mounting. Suppose a web hosting company or two or three decide they don't want to carry (insert your favorite on line vendor) any more. Won't take long before they all follow like lemmings

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    The pressures around sales of tobacco just keep mounting.

    It would not shock me to see all mail-order tobacco shut down within 5 years.

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    It would not shock me to see all mail-order tobacco shut down within 5 years.

    The only way I don't see that happening is if the cigar lobby buys enough support to keep that from happening. Hell maybe it will end up like the Cuban cigar trade where we have to buy from over seas vendors and take our chances with US customs. I did that for a lot of years back when I was heavy into cigars. I had sources in Spain, Gibraltar, Lebanon, Switzerland, Australia and Hong Kong. I had around 4 or 5 seizures over the years but my sources always covered the loss.

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    I use the FB method a fair amount. Works well...so far..

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    It's a shame. I used that forum all the time. I've been smoking a pipe for just one year come April, and I've sampled more tobaccos through that sub than I really have a right too. And, not being as loquacious--nor near as humorous--as Sable, I'll never get to 100 posts here before 2021. Quick and easy, and I even got four ounces of Haddo's Delight from 2004. I think its about eight years too old, but still, there's no way I was going to get samples like that retailers or B&Ms. As a result, I've got a cellar full of tobaccos I love.

    I will miss it.

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    It would not shock me to see all mail-order tobacco shut down within 5 years.

    It wouldn't shock me, but it would surprise me. What would not surprise me is a ban of on line sales. In this day of internet based sales, mail order catalogs are like the horse and buggy, but then again, if the various carrier services refuse to ship tobacco to end users, we'd have to rely on, gasp!, B&M's. Remember them?

    At least as of late, it's mostly people trying to offload tins of Frog Morton for $45/bucks each and then everyone else bitching at them for it.

    People will be people, even on Facebook. Even these groups will likely be forced to cease their activities due to increased oversight of Facebook being suggested in the wake of their latest scandal.

    Support your pipe shows! They will become a more important venue for finding goodies in the years ahead unless they don't get support from the community and are forced to close.

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    What would not surprise me is a ban of on line sales.

    Tis what I meant; not mail-order.

    if the various carrier services refuse to ship tobacco to end users, we'd have to rely on, gasp!, B&M's. Remember them?

    I wouldn't mind relying on B&Ms if the markups and taxes weren't as they are, particularly here in WA. If my ability to order tobacco online went away, I'd probably just not buy any more or at least VERY little comparatively.

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    jesse,

    if the various carrier services refuse to ship tobacco to end users, we'd have to rely on, gasp!, B&M's. Remember them?

    When I first moved to Sarasota(2003) I was thrilled to see I had a real b/m to go to. Bennigntons has been around forever and when I first walked in, I was in heaven. I could buy tins of Penzance or any number of other of my favorites and life was good. Then Florida decided to fuck us pipe smokers with an 85% wholesale tax on pipe tobacco and a tin of Samuel Gawith Best Brown flake shot up to 22.95 a tin. I could buy the same tin online for 9 and change so I couldn't justify buying locally anymore. The poor guy cut his selection of pipe tobacco by 3/4's and now the only people who buy it are tourists from countries with even higher prices.

    I still bought a few lighters, pipe cleaners, P&T magazines but I felt bad going in there and not buying tobacco anymore. I would also give him pipes to refurbish for me from time to time, but eventually I stopped going in at all. I don't need anymore lighters and I send my pipes to Walker for ozone or whatever else I need. He does a great cigar business so he is still very successful, but for us pipe smokers, it just isn't viable.

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    ...but for us pipe smokers, it just isn't viable.

    Viable or not, that may remain the only option. When I quit cancer sticks in the early '80's, a pack of cigs was 75¢. Today, the average cost of a pack is a little over $6, and people are still buying millions of packs. We adjust one way or another.

    We've had it pretty good price wise in the US, perhaps too good for the tobacco growing industry to continue to produce the kind of leaf used in making pipe tobacco using traditional labor intensive methods that add to the cost as well as the quality.

    We all knew that prices would increase, one way or another. How much, remains to be seen.

    Access to buying pipe tobacco will be made less convenient. Count on that. So social media outlets will be under attack. On line sales will probably be banned or at the very least tracked and taxed, which may be the only thing that saves them. At some point pipe smokers who haven't been building up stocks will be faced with deciding what it is worth to them to continue with this wonderful filthy habit.

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    We got crunched on the market sub. Still trying to think of a fix...

    That place averaged about 1500 unique visitors with 15k or so page hits/day. It was a really vibrant place. Other "marketplace" type places got shut down as well... i.e. /r/beertrades, /r/gundeals. It's the risk you take when it's someone else's sandbox I reckon.

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    I really liked the scene at reddit. Lots of changes just piling up in the hobby.

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    The full scope of what is going on with control of the web right now goes far beyond tobacco.

    As I have commented before, and as have others, we have been living through the wild west days of the internet...soon to pass into myth.

    There is no human vice more pernicious and damaging than control, imo.

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    There is no human vice more pernicious and damaging than control, imo

    That's the truth. I'd bought and traded pipe tobacco and cigars on reddit and am sad to see them shutting that down. The wild west days of the internet can't last forever though. As Mark Twain said, “Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.” It's always the children we must think of when freedoms are being squashed.

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    This is depressing news. I’m not sure how much more I can handle!

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    It was a great place to buy, sell, and trade. It's a real shame that it's gone now. I frequent it just as much as I do here. Different communities but great in their own way.

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    It was a younger scene, if that makes sense. Lots of folks finding their way in the hobby. I gave away a lot of stuff just because I felt I was passing the torch along.

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    "It would not shock me to see all mail-order tobacco shut down within 5 years."

    Then the knock on effect would be the closing of this very forum!

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    Then the knock on effect would be the closing of this very forum!

    Yep. But others, not commercial, would continue.

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    @Jay,

    Yep. No sponsors.

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    Yup this blows. I used the various cigar subreddits as well for trades and box splits.

    They setup a cigar market replacement on mewe.com

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    I don't even know what a reddit is, and I downloaded the app a year or so ago, and I still haven't figured out what it is. Bunch of hipsters!

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    I don't even know what a reddit is, and I downloaded the app a year or so ago, and I still haven't figured out what it is. Bunch of hipsters

    Also don't know what it is or how to use it. Sad to see that folks will miss it, though. Sounds like it was pretty cool.

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    It would not shock me to see all mail-order tobacco shut down within 5 years.

    Tobacco will eventually become like guns - Only ships across state lines from licensed dealer to licensed dealer. Then you buy from a licensed dealer, who will have your complete information and purchase history. Since the government has almost completely taken over healthcare, the insurance company surrogates will want that info to extract even more money from you.

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    Reddit’s tobacco group is trying to move to a new home. I’ll update when known.

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    Reddit’s tobacco group is trying to move to a new home. I’ll update when known.

    And maybe publish a "(insert name of new home) For Dummies" guide?

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    Social media is becoming a more and more unfriendly place, anti-social to a lot of communities. Facebook and Twitter and YouTube and now Reddit seem to be actively culling the undesirables because shut up. Fortunately, there is plenty of room on the web for people to create their own communities.

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    It definitely was a huge hit. I bought and sold some incredible finds on the reddit market and made some great connections. I'm incredibly hesitant about the current workaround being discussed though: a new forum for all banned reddit communities. I don't want to facilitate deals on a website that also handles alcohol and firearms. It's just asking for trouble. Like putting all the eggs in one basket and attaching flashing lights and a siren. And that's coming from someone who smokes pipes, drinks alcohol, and owns a firearm. I just don't need all my hobbies at once. Like the one time the local gentleman's club had an early morning sushi buffet. Pass.

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    Let's get all the folks who sold pipe tobacco over on reddit over to this site. Spread the word.

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    peck, lol...you are a shit stirrer extraordinaire.

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    Peck has a fine idea, but it should be a separate forum so we don't comingle the discussions with the trades.

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    shit stirrer extraordinaire

    That would be the ultimate forum member title to aspire to.

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