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Question About Gourd Calabash

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  • Started 7 years ago by mushjoon
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  1. mushjoon

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    Hi, I'm thinking about purchasing a gourd calabash from this website

    It looks great and all, but the bowl actually looks really small...

    Has anyone had problem with the small size of the bowl or does it just smoke fine like regular briar pipe?

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  2. tokerpipes

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    I own a goard calabash. They are nomaly the best pipe you can own. It tames the harshest tobacco you can find. The bowl come yn 3 sizes. They all prytty much smoke better than a briar. Cleaning can be tedius.

    If you can't pack it, light it, and smoke it then why do it. It's a dieing art that must be rekindled in all of us as fortold by our forefathers.

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    "They are nomaly the best pipe you can own. It tames the harshest tobacco you can find. The bowl come yn 3 sizes. They all prytty much smoke better than a briar."

    I respectfully disagree, Toker.

    I have two gourd calabashes which I have owned for over twenty years and I would not say they smoke categorically better than briar.

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  4. mushjoon

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    Ok, but what size should I get to smoke "average" amount of tobacco? I mean, what size of calabash (Medium, Large, X-large) should I get, so I wouldn't be pissed off by the tiny amount of tobacco that I am allowed to smoke with it?

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    That isn't a gourd calabash. If you read the description, you'll find that the body of the pipe is made of mahogany. Calabach gourds are nearly impossible to obtain now, so some companies are making the pipes using carved wooden bases, usually mahogany.
    The bowl does look small, you might ask them for dimensions beforing buying one.

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    Posted 7 years ago #
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    Um... okay....? But does that mean that calabash made of mahogany are not good?

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    Regarding the size, I don't think it would be too small. I didn't see any dimensions listed, but from the photos it seems adequate.

    I've never smoked a mahogany calabash so I can't comment on its quality. But I don't think there's anything about to the gourd as a material that makes it superior. On one hand I think the only way you're going to find out is to try one. It's not a lot of money ($69) so it may be worth the risk. On the other hand I've never heard of this company. Has anyone?

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    Nope. Haven't heard of them. I imagine the major difference would be the weight. The calabash goard is light compaired to the wood.

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  9. alonso2

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    They are great pipes. I unfortunately broke the meerschaum bowl in mine, so turned a wooden one to take its place.


    calabash by velocipede228822, on Flickr

    Here it is after the restoration. I will turn another bowl for it out of harder wood later.

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    Both of mine are about 1-1/2" across and 1-3/4" deep...
    Something akin to a bucket... So I can cross that off the list.


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  11. tokerpipes

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    Cool idea turning a bowl.

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    I bought my gourd in the 80s. Tobaccos that smoke hot or harsh seem to benefit from the extra air space in it. If I don't like a tobacco in any of my briars, I will give it a go in the gourd.

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    I don't know if this may help or not.
    As a bass guitar player, I am very sure that mahogany is relatively heavy comparing to any kinds of wood you can find.
    I believe you will find the pipe much heavier than you think....

    Also, just in case you don't know, buy a meerschaum pipe and you will receive free shipping and a small discount as well!
    The shipping is about $14 and the cheapest meer cost about $28.
    This may be a good saving for you.

    p.s. I do not work for this site. And if you do buy the cheapest meer, please let me know if it is good or not because I am interested in getting one too. LoL

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  14. recoilrob

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    I own about a dozen true Clabash gourd pipes with meerschaum bowls. IMHO they can certainly cool down a hot or harsh smoke but at the same time they seem to also take out some high notes that you would get in a briar. They certainly smoke drier than a briar. I like them for what they are, a different smoke and they look cool as hell.

    Regarding the pipe you are looking to purchase, they look small, and if the body is mahogany, that's an oily wood and may impart some of it's own taste to the tobacco.

    Real Calabash gourd pipes are all over the auction sites, you can pick your size and curve. There's one now at $6.99, just needs a new stem and these type stems are not hard to find or make.

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    Where can you find a new replacement stem for calabash?
    Indeed, could you please tell me where can you find or how can you make a replacement stem for pipe?
    I want to make or buy a churchwarden stem for one of my pipe if possible.
    Thanks

    Sorry but not intended to high jack this post....

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  16. recoilrob

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    Gourd calabashes usually have a "military" type stem, just a push fit into the ferrule on the pipe. I have a box of old stems and I can usually find something to fit.

    To make a stem for your churchwarden is a "whole nother level", it's going to have to match the shank. I had a pro make a replacement stem for an old Dunhill CW for me once and it came out clunky as hell. Had to have it reworked to thin it down. Also, a CW stem is more work than a standard stem, more $

    You may want to take a caliper and measure your shank and tenon size and post a WTB in the classifieds, maybe someone has one that will fit or be oversized so you can take it down.

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    Although this is a old topic,We will be adding new 16 gourds pipe to our collection in june-July 2013

    Regards,
    B.B

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    Another negative opinion here. I had one of those in the 1950s. It was the biggest waste of money in my pipe collection. The bowl was made from a meerschaum composite and tasted awful. It also kept falling out of the gourd. The Calabash was very difficult to clean, and it wasn't worth the effort. The pipe was a nuisance and I eventually tossed it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    Foggy hi,
    just a quick information.There was no pressed meerschaum in 1950s

    Probably that bowl was made of poor quality (below level 4) meerschaum block.

    Regards,
    B.B

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    meerqueen, will MeerschaumStore.com's new calabash pipes be made of African gourd?

    BTW, in the late 1960's AFAIK, Pioneer made a gourd calabash with a pressed meerschaum bowl that was renowned for its fine
    smoking properties and, curiously enough, its ability to color quite nicely (albeit differently from block meer).

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    Posted 6 years ago #
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    Call me weird, but I never found the taste from a Meerschaum bowl, may it be inside a Calabash, or a normal pipe, to be any better, than a well broken in briar. The taste always is kind of muted, like a fresh briar, but it does not improve, like most briars do. For the record, I have also tried Andreas Bauer in this regard, which is said to use top quality Meerschaum.
    The Calabash I owned had a similar taste/smell, like Foggy's, but it was not the bowl, but the gourd itself, which was treated with something, which smelled and tasted really awful.

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    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. foggymountain

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    meerqueen: What you say is interesting, but I beg to differ. If I recall correctly I was told it was composited or pressed when I got it from the Wally Frank store on Madison & 43rd. The price was very low, around $12 new.

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  23. meerqueen

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    Hi All,
    If you say late of 1960's then I will accept it.:) but in 1950's there should not be pressed bowls.
    Actually I am 39 years old and I was not born in that time but we have this technology since 1963.actually as I know we are the only company that owns these technology in the world.
    I will talk about pressed meerschaum issue later.I will planing to write an article about it and hopefull we will be publishing it only pipesmagazine.com

    We used this technology in meerschaum linings,meerschaum bowls,make your own pipe kits and mini pipes and decorative figurals
    Now we just use this technology only meerschaum bowls and meerschaum linings
    Pressed meerschaums are always better than grade 3 block meerschaum as these pressed products are made of grade 5-6 block meerschaums.that's why we give lifetime guarantee to our meerschaum bowl .

    Again I talked too much

    For gourd pipes that we are adding in june-july period: half of them will be from african gourd and half of them will be from usa gourds

    Regards,
    B.B

    Posted 6 years ago #
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    >I will talk about pressed meerschaum issue later. I will planing to write an article about it and hopefull we will be publishing it only pipesmagazine.com.

    I'd be really interested of learning on the matter of pressed meerschaum and it's use currently and in history. Over the years I've read so much conflicting "facts" about it that I don't know what to believe anymore. It would be great to hear from someone who's in the (manufacturing, not just sales) business.

    Here's some of the "facts" about pressed mere I've read on the Internets:

    • "Most cheaper meers from Turkey are made of pressed meerschaum." (…and not carved from lower quality block)
    • "Some cheap meerschaum pipes are made from meerschaum by pressing it in a mold." (not carved from pressed block.)
    • "Calabash bowls made of pressed meerschaum will disintegrate over time." (Will the bowl of my Strambach calabash crumble at some point?!)

    Here's hoping that you have time to answer some of these questions.

    Many thanks!

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Hi Jarit,

    Question 1 "Most cheaper meers from Turkey are made of pressed meerschaum." (…and not carved from lower quality block)

    Fact 1: Press technique is very complex and expensive technology There is no pressed meerschaum pipe PRODUCTION for a long time. cheaper meers are carved from lower quality blocks.

    Question 2 "Some cheap meerschaum pipes are made from meerschaum by pressing it in a mold." (not carved from pressed block.)

    Fact2 Same here.cheaper meers are carved from lower quality blocks.
    I didnt see anyone who uses mold.if it is done with molds, There should not be an expensive press technology

    Grade 6 block meerschaum price (palm size) is around 25 US$.there are other expenses like,stem,case,business costs etc. So actual cost is around 45 $ for a palm size grade 6 meerschaum pipe.this means that you can not buy a palm size grade 6 meerschaum pipe lower than 45 $ The factors which affects the label price is mostly workmanship.Thats why we show the grade of workmanship and grade of block meerschaum on product labels for each product.If the pipe has a signature and the artisan is well known than the price is getting higher and higher.

    Question 3 "Calabash bowls made of pressed meerschaum will disintegrate over time." (Will the bowl of my Strambach calabash crumble at some point?!)

    Fact 3. We sell those pressed meerschaum calabash bowls since 1963 and we have not faced big problems.Thats why we give 5 years warranty for meerschaum bowls.If something happened then we replace them .There are some points which needs to be carefull for pressed meerschaum bowls.The first one is not to touch or move the bowl while it is hot and also the bowls should not be contact with any liquid.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards,
    B.B

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    Many thanks for your kind answers, B.B.!

    Very helpful, indeed. Some of these odd myths about pressed meerschaum that are making rounds on the internet don't make any sense at all.

    Jari

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. meerqueen

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    You are welcome Jari...

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    How is the article coming? Or can you refer me to another place to get this information about pressed meer, or block?

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    Waiting for Kevin's instructions

    Meanwhile you can ask me anything about pressed meers and block ones

    Posted 5 years ago #
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    What is " meerqueen " web site for sales ??

    my browser is not functioning to search

    please give me the url

    thanks

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    it is http://www.meerschaumstore.com

    Thank you

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  32. shanelktown

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    True gourds are neat they are very light. I would say depends if your an indoor or outdoor smoker? A calabash is a good pipe to sit down and smoke with but not the best if your from the north and outside with that thing. My thoughts on smoking one it is a different experience for sure but personally I prefer briars or real meerschaums. I also like churchwardens exspecially ones you can switch out stems i.e Hans Christian Anderson

    Posted 4 years ago #

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