I feel like I am at the end of the bowl, I take my tool and feel down in the bowl and my first pack is always in there still with ash on top. By first pack I mean the first time I load the bowl and pack it down. It seems like this portion is more wet and doesn't keep lit. I dry my tobacco about 20 mins and still get this. Thank you for any help
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Question about finishing a bowl....
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Posted 4 months ago #
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May need to dry it longer or smoke slower lad!
"May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." - Charles Lamb
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And you may be packing the bowls a little too hard.
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I'll second what Irish said. Sometimes even if you think you're going slow, you can probably go slower. Takes awhile to get the rhythm. Is it an aromatic?
Matt. I'll have my House the same as my metal and my coffee, thanks.Posted 4 months ago # -
When you guys mention going "slow" what does that mean exactly? Slow long sips or slow long pauses?
"If you meet Buddha, kill Buddha. If you meet your father, kill your father. Attached to nothing, bound by nothing. Live life for the sake of life itself." - Buddhist proverbPosted 4 months ago # -
Yes it is an aromatic, and smoke slower.... I feel like I am already going too slow and always worried the bowl is going to go out. Expecially when I am low on matches!! Lol
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And I don't think I'm packing too hard but who knows. I have no air restriction after its packed
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Be careful of tamping too hard. That will end up packing the bottom of the bowl tighter each time you tamp.
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Expirament with packing , and smoking longer slower puffs . Every blend packs a bit different .
"A pipe is the fountain of contemplation, the source of pleasure, the companion of the wise; and the man who smokes, thinks like a philosopher and acts like a Samaritan."
-Edward George Bulwer-Lytton, 1st Baron LyttonPosted 4 months ago # -
When you say aromatics, what type are you smoking? Many aromatics are loaded with PG and will leave a wet gunky mess in the bottom of your bowl. Drying them for an hour or 2 before smoking might help a lot. In regards to slow smoking, everyone has their own cadence and methods, you will find yours with practice.
HarrisPosted 4 months ago # -
Be careful of tamping too hard. That will end up packing the bottom of the bowl tighter each time you tamp.
This was my problem for a while. I think i just now am understanding how and when to tamp. Very light touch, and less often works for me, just enough to knock down the fluffy ashes.
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I feel like I am already going too slow and always worried the bowl is going to go out. Especially when I am low on matches!! Lol
All good advice here -- try drying it more, especially if your tobacco is a heavily cased aromatic -- some of those can take all day to dry properly.
But yes, slow sipping FTW! Hey, if it goes out, relight it -- no biggie.
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Thanks everyone, tons of good advice I will keep in mind. I beleive it is the tamping that is the problem.... Just too hard mid way through bowl. Thanks again
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Like Philip suggested, tamping is the probable source of the problem.
Draft hole drilled too high could create this kind of problem too.
Fix by raising the bottom of the bowl with pipe mud.Of course, you could find yourself a Bianchino upside-down pipe.
I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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Oh and I'm smoking a blend from my local shop. David's Coventry... It was my first purchase. I'm thinking of looking for a Virginia tobacco next time, what do you guys think?
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From a B&M? McClelland #27, or #22 if you smoke outdoors. For comparison to a more bread-like Va try #25.
If your B&M carries Newminster's bulk blends, then #701 Straight Virginia is a must try.
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Yes a B&M, and a bread-like va? What do you mean bread like?
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Not sharp and grassy, nor particularly citrus-like; more on the dark, sweet side.
Once you expose your palate to a variety of Virginias you'll say, "Oh yah, definitely bready!"You might try putting together a sampler from Hearth & Home (PipesandCigars.com)
In fact, you can make big advances in your appreciation of Virginias by calling Russ Ouellette and asking him
to put together a package of Virginia blends that will give you the full range of the genre. 800.494.9144Posted 4 months ago # -
I am looking forward to it. And wow, 6 samples, how to choose what 6!!! Lol
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When you finish the bowl is it ALL supposed to be ash?
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When you finish the bowl is it ALL supposed to be ash?
Yes... very rarely do I leave a small amount in the bowl. But if I do its no biggie, just empty clean and move on
I carry a gun... because a cop is too heavy!Posted 4 months ago # -
Yes a B&M, and a bread-like va? What do you mean bread like?
Actually we dont have a proper B&M here red... I live down to road from you in Upland, Davids Gift and Tobacco has a few blends and even more tins now that she started stocking up... but in the end the last B&M was in Claremont and he closed down probably about 10-12 years ago.
oh and Davids doesnt have McClelland bulks or tins for that matter :/
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I usually dump the ash about half way down the bowl, especially if the bowl has to be re-lit.
As for the Virginia blends, they're great --- in fact, I smoke mostly vigrinias -- but they took me a long time to "get." I urge you to get your sipping and cadence down a bit first. Most virginias can be very unforgiving and can and will bite you like a rabid dog if rushed.
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Oh that's too bad cap. I wish I could see what a real B&M was
And cap, since you know the place I'm talking about have you tried their tobacco? What is the difference between theirs and the tinned stuff. Besides almost triple the price!!
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When tobacco burns there is always a little moisture at the bottom. The nature of aromatics because of there syrups and casings will always burn wet as compared for instnce with an English blend that will smoke considerably dryer than an aromatic since these English blends usually have no casings and syrups.
Try loading your blend using the old thirds technique. Heel of bowl semi firm, second third of the bowl a little looser and finally, the top third loose. Then tamp the top of the bowl lightly before your charring light.
Another, factor may be that your draft hole in your pipe(s) may br too restricted therefore causing a wetter smoke. You may consider going to a professional pipe repairer and have your pipe(s) opened up.
Finally, if your draft hole is not in the center and at the very bottom of your pipe bowl it will cause wetness at the bottom with any tobacco type. Good pipe engineering is critical.
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Yes... there are a couple of blends that I pick up from them... their bulk PS Luxury Bullseye Flake as well as the bulk PS Proper English (even though they are in in pre packaged bags of 3oz they are still considered bulk.)
I also will pick up some Penzance when they have it as well as a tin here and there (usually Nightcap or EMP) but she is starting to have a nice variety including Butera, Wessex, Dunhill, Samuel Gawith and several others.Posted 4 months ago # -
I have heard night cap many many times on this site. That and 1Q are on my small list of want to try's
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I notice that the more topped an aro is the more likely it is to not smoke to the bottom properly.
Or even if you did, you wouldn't want to as it will taste like ammonia garbage.
One way to fix that is to let your aros dry out a bit before you smoke them."Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."
- John SteinbeckPosted 4 months ago # -
Redbeard... Davids stocks Nightcap... she had about 5 tins as of last Saturday.
Nightcap is one of my favorite all day tobacco's... if you want, why not hold out until we have a chance to meet up and I'll kick ya down with a sample.. make sure you like it before spending your money.
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I would love to sample before buying!! That would be awesome, maybe I will have something to your liking when we meet up
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Another thing to try would be the "air pocket" method of packing your bowl. Might be worth experimenting with... I know when I was starting out, it helped to try this method versus struggle with the right puffing pace using other packing methods.
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More questions than answers... But, pack the bottom (first pinch or two) a little less tight than the upper bowl. There is no rule that you must smoke the dottle remainder. When it gets to that point and goes out, I am satisfied and the pipe is finished.
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Not all of the wet is coming from your tobacco. Condensation comes from the burning of moisture in the air, too.
I gave up on trying to dry my tobacco, and now just clean the draft hole out a couple of times during my smoke with a non-bristled pipe cleaner.
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Draft hole drilled too high could create this kind of problem too.
Fix by raising the bottom of the bowl with pipe mud.How far from the bottom should the hole be? I got a pretty good smoke out of it today.
Of course, you could find yourself a Bianchino upside-down pipe.
What?? Lol
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Not all of the wet is coming from your tobacco. Condensation comes from the burning of moisture in the air, too.
I dried it for about an hour and a half and my jar is bad so it is dried out a little already
switched to a new jar needless to say.But I noticed a little passed halfway through I heard crackling....possibly me not keeping my mouth completely dry?
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