Pipes Magazine » Pipe Tobacco Discussion

Search Forums  
   
Tags:  No tags yet. 

Prince Albert is Being Discontinued

(97 posts)
  • Started 5 months ago by aldecaker
  • Latest reply from newbroom
  1. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I just got off the phone with P&C customer service. I was informed that Prince Albert was being discontinued, and that was why they've been out of the 1.5 oz. pouches for a while. Sad day for me, but at least I have a 2 or 3 pounds stashed away. Hard to see another icon go by the wayside.

    A man who serves his country is a patriot. A man who serves his government is an employee. The two are not always the same thing.
    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. ashdigger

    ashdigger

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 4,802

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Wait a minute..... this sounds like the old phone prank....

    Ubi Ignis Est?
    Posted 5 months ago #
  3. haparnold

    Hap

    Senior Member
    Joined: Aug 2018
    Posts: 764

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    De Gustibus Non Est Disputandum
    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I wish it was, Ash. This really sucks for me.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  5. mso489

    mso489

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posts: 24,452

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Anyone else heard this? Announcements, news releases, etc.? PC is a highly creditable source, if the staffer had the story straight. PA is a blend that would have definitely outlived the deeming regulations. It seems like they'd have done well to keep it alive to see if it found a new consumer base in the face of that. Any further authoritative report or information would be useful here. I'm not a PA smoker. There are other mild blends, when I want mild, that I like better, but this would be a shocker if true.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I know one surly old man that will be even more nasty and impossible. Maybe this will finally kill him... JK, jk

    Michael
    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Sadly, the lady I spoke to at WV Smokeshop says the same thing.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  8. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    And here I've been so nice to you lately, Michael...

    Posted 5 months ago #
  9. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Ha ha, I wasn't talking about you. I had no idea that you smoked Pr... wait, what's your name?

    Posted 5 months ago #
  10. mso489

    mso489

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posts: 24,452

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Could be true. I hope we get the story. If the old codger blends fade, we may be left with corn silk and yard mulch.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  11. lawdawg

    lawdawg

    Senior Member
    Joined: Aug 2016
    Posts: 454

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    All these blends going out of production is such a bummer! I'm confident that the anti-tobacco fanaticism will eventually run its course and simmer down, but it seems that the zealots might kill off the pipe tobacco industry in the meantime with their regulatory and tax schemes that are making pipe tobacco a cost-ineffective business.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  12. crashthegrey

    crashthegrey

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2015
    Posts: 2,665

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    This is crazy. Stop putting it in a can, fine, but stop making it? Now I am outraged. Seriously, though, you never think those staples will disappear.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  13. ashdigger

    ashdigger

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 4,802

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Crash, the FDA regulates Surgical Staple removers too.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  14. carolinachurchwarden

    carolinachurchwarden

    Senior Member
    Joined: May 2018
    Posts: 1,519

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    it seems that the zealots might kill off the pipe tobacco industry in the meantime with their regulatory and tax schemes that are making pipe tobacco a cost-ineffective business.

    As crazy as it might be to speculate, this could be their ultimate goal.

    "If you can't send money, send tobacco." - George Washington

    Posted 5 months ago #
  15. madox07

    madox07

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2016
    Posts: 1,180

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Wow ... I think it's the third major new like this for the year, after McClelland and Dunhill that is..

    Sea Wolf Pipers

    "Like the mariners of old, a loner is acceptable but a pipe is best enjoyed in a pack"
    Posted 5 months ago #
  16. 3rdguy

    3rdguy

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Russ...tell us it ain't so.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  17. lawdawg

    lawdawg

    Senior Member
    Joined: Aug 2016
    Posts: 454

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    As crazy as it might be to speculate, this could be their ultimate goal.

    I don't think that's crazy at all. In fact, I agree with you. The anti-smokers have gained a lot of ground, but they know that Americans (at least many of us) are still a freedom-loving people and would oppose any effort to ban tobacco use outright. Instead, they just regulate it slowly out of existence. Big tobacco obviously still has a lot of pull, and the recent/new FDA regulations reflect that, though the crackdown has been coming in increments for a long time and the entire tobacco industry will suffer.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  18. brian64

    brian64

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2011
    Posts: 4,815

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    This is sad and a bad sign...and a bit surprising. It's just the opposite of what most have been speculating. There seems to have been a general assumption that these old OTC/Codger blends would be the last to go away if they ever went at all.

    “Bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” – George Carlin
    Posted 5 months ago #
  19. 3rdguy

    3rdguy

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    23 left at SP's...here we go again.

    I am going to end up breaking new pipes in with Esoterica at some point.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  20. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    We are doing a lot of speculating. PA is a Middleton product. Are any of their orher products leaving the market? Has Prince Albert been profitable? How does it stand against their other blends?
    As I did a search for more info on PA, I did notice that ALL other talk online about this, only stems from this one thread. Maybe it will take some time for the facts to come out.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  21. ashdigger

    ashdigger

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 4,802

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I'd like to get in front of this. I have a tub of PA I'm willing to sell for a measly $800. Dont let an opportunity like this get away. It'll soon be Prince Albert who?

    Posted 5 months ago #
  22. 3rdguy

    3rdguy

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    No longer just a piercing!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  23. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    "As I did a search for more info on PA, I did notice that ALL other talk online about this, only stems from this one thread. Maybe it will take some time for the facts to come out."

    I am only basing it on what I was told by 2 customer service reps at online vendors, not on any information directly from the manufacturer. This would be a great time for Russ to show up and help us out with some insider info!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  24. jiminks

    JimInks

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2012
    Posts: 30,344

    online

    Login to Send PM

    I just messaged Russ to see what he has to say.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  25. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Thanks, Jim!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  26. sparroa

    simenon

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2010
    Posts: 1,537

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I think this is just the next phase of a long process.

    Middleton (aka Altria aka Philip Morris) killed a load of old time pipe blends a few years ago. Kentucky Club, Walnut and Sugar Barrel were just the first to bite the dust. And Prince Albert will not be the last...

    Posted 5 months ago #
  27. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Well, they can kiss my ass. If they stop making Prince Albert, I'm gonna stop buying it.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  28. cohibajoe

    cohibajoe

    Senior Member
    Joined: Mar 2018
    Posts: 314

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I just got off the phone with P&C customer service. I was informed that Prince Albert was being discontinued, and that was why they've been out of the 1.5 oz. pouches for a while. Sad day for me, but at least I have a 2 or 3 pounds stashed away. Hard to see another icon go by the wayside.

    SP has 265 1.5oz pouches.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  29. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    SP, P&C, and WV Smokeshop all have the cans in stock, too (not that it tastes the same as the pouches).

    Posted 5 months ago #
  30. bnichols23

    Bill

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2018
    Posts: 2,074

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    You give 'em hell, alde', that'll by-God teach 'em!

    Seriously, this is a stunner. I don't smoke it, never have, but I never watched Seinfeld either, & yet I know it was a classic to many. [hand over heart] Farewell, sweet Prince, & may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

    Head Black Frigate keelhauler, boss powder monkey, & troublemaker 1st class.
    Posted 5 months ago #
  31. blackadderlxx

    blackadderlxx

    Senior Member
    Joined: Jun 2018
    Posts: 370

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    This is hard to believe. I've never had it, and probably never will, but for my entire life this was the first thing I thought of when I thought of pipe tobacco.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  32. 3rdguy

    3rdguy

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Here! Here!

    We need to get you to start watching Seinfeld.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  33. bnichols23

    Bill

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2018
    Posts: 2,074

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Hey, just ain't normally in my spectrum. Never got into the habit. Yeah, yeah, I know: "No Seinfeld for you!"

    Huge 3rd Rock & House fan, though!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  34. dottiewarden

    dottiewarden

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2014
    Posts: 3,132

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    If the old codger blends fade, we may be left with corn silk and yard mulch.

    Supply and demand. Seems 'round here everybody smokes a pipe, but out there..... nobody even knows, or much less cares, about a few ol' diehards livin' in the 50's.

    Dot
    Posted 5 months ago #
  35. weedsnager

    weedsnager

    Member
    Joined: Jun 2015
    Posts: 297

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    What’s next captain black ?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  36. blendtobac

    blendtobac

    Tobacco Blender Extraordinaire
    Joined: Oct 2009
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I just researched this. I have no info that says PA is discontinued. I don't know where our rep got this information, but to the best of my knowledge, it isn't true. Aldecaker, could you please PM me or email me at russo@pipesandcigars.com? I need to find out who spoke to you.

    Russ

    Posted 4 months ago #
  37. haparnold

    Hap

    Senior Member
    Joined: Aug 2018
    Posts: 764

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    If it does go away, I'm sure we can rely on Russ to produce a fantastic match blend!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  38. weedsnager

    weedsnager

    Member
    Joined: Jun 2015
    Posts: 297

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    P&C already has a match

    Posted 4 months ago #
  39. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Whether true or not, this post has definitely made a splash on the internet, according to Google searches. This thread is sited in at least six Facebook posts on various pipe pages there, and I found a whole bunch of posts on a site called Reddit that sites this one, and a few other forums site this one. It seems that this post has made the rounds and inspired many other social medias. Blind panic has ensued, ha ha.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  40. workman

    workman

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2018
    Posts: 1,472

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    If everyone starts hunting Prince Albert, maybe some Dunhills and Esotericas slip under the radar. They ARE kind of passé now PA's the new black, don't you think?

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
    Posted 4 months ago #
  41. ashdigger

    ashdigger

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 4,802

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Does this mean nobody wants my rare (although readily available) tub of PA?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  42. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    If I have caused a false media spectacle, I apologize a thousand times! I, of all people, hope this is not at all true. I was just going on what I was told, and am going to email Russ right now. Hopefully, I was completely wrong (and I don't say that phrase a lot).

    Posted 4 months ago #
  43. crashthegrey

    crashthegrey

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2015
    Posts: 2,665

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    In fairness, you made no claim outside of what you were told. It's not like you tried to make a big deal out of it, just passed on what you heard.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  44. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Still, you hate to be the bearer of false information. Thank you for the supportive words, though!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  45. chilipalmer

    chilipalmer

    Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 108

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    If Prince Albert goes away, that's not big deal. Now, if Velvet and Mixture 79 get on the ramp to extinction, that's another matter...

    Cheers,

    Chili

    “Pipe: a primary masculine symbol with authoritarian overtones but also indicative of reliability and contentment.”
    -The Dictionary of Visual Language, 1980
    Posted 4 months ago #
  46. bnichols23

    Bill

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2018
    Posts: 2,074

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    What’s next captain black ?

    Don't tease, weed, you know better.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  47. paulie66scandinavian

    Paul

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 2,572

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I'm under the impression that hardly any newer generation pipe smoker has much of interest in those old timey blends,they aren't enough interesting and sophisticated to contemporary pipe smoker tastes.

    Paul The Scandinavian'
    Posted 4 months ago #
  48. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I can handle Captain Black, SWR, and Carter Hall, but there is something nasty about PA that just doesn't appeal to me.

    However, it is still a popular RYO. And, those that love PA, really love it. Most of the PA guys I know, only smoke PA, all day every day.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  49. weedsnager

    weedsnager

    Member
    Joined: Jun 2015
    Posts: 297

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Don't tease, weed, you know better.

    Lol

    Posted 4 months ago #
  50. User has not uploaded an avatar

    aldecaker

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 4,441

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Paul, I've always thought it had a pretty good following. If you click on the "Top Selling" tab on the P&C website, it is right there, literally in between Lane 1Q and Captain Black. PA is not the only blend I like, but I like it enough to be irrationally distressed over the thought of it not being available!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  51. brian64

    brian64

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2011
    Posts: 4,815

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Glad to hear it isn't true after all, but seems rather strange that someone at P&C would tell a customer that.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  52. cosmicfolklore

    Cosmic

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2013
    Posts: 17,735

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I thought that we were still awaiting a verdict. Isn't Russ going to show up with the head of a CS personnel and wave it about as a warning to the rest of the phone dispatch?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  53. brian64

    brian64

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2011
    Posts: 4,815

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I thought that we were still awaiting a verdict.

    Yeah, I should have inserted the word "apparently" in my comment, but based on what Russ said I'll be surprised if it turns out to be true.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  54. blendtobac

    blendtobac

    Tobacco Blender Extraordinaire
    Joined: Oct 2009
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    We're addressing this to find out where this "information" came from. It will be addressed with our staff, and I apologize for any panic this may have started.

    Russ

    Posted 4 months ago #
  55. prairiedruid

    prairiedruid

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jun 2015
    Posts: 1,632

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Well there goes my plans of getting rich selling hits of Prince Albert on street corners.....

    Posted 4 months ago #
  56. crashthegrey

    crashthegrey

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2015
    Posts: 2,665

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    It's not too late prairiedruid. If all of the internet based their information on us, they likely haven't read the follow up yet and are still out there panicking. (I am completely kidding, please don't profit from this!)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  57. kylef

    kylef

    New Member
    Joined: Oct 2018
    Posts: 38

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Maybe somebody on staff heard the "Do you have Prince Albert in a can" joke one too many times, and just responded with "No! They stopped making it!"

    Posted 4 months ago #
  58. bluegrasspipe

    bluegrasspipe

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2017
    Posts: 597

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I am interested to see what Russ comes back with for an answer. I like it for breaking in pipes, and if I am in a quick smoke no fuss mood.
    My great grandfather smoked PA until he was 102.

    For tho' at my simile many may joke,
    Man is but a pipe—and his life but smoke.
    Posted 4 months ago #
  59. woodsroad

    woodsroad

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2013
    Posts: 8,421

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Posted 4 months ago #
  60. newbroom

    newbroom

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2014
    Posts: 5,473

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Prince Albert is the tobacco that Grabow uses for pre-smoking their pipes.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  61. mso489

    mso489

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posts: 24,452

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    woodsroad, what a visual statement! "Do you have Prince Albert in the can?"

    Posted 4 months ago #
  62. snagstangl

    snagstangl

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2013
    Posts: 1,120

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I thought I read someone complaining about it being reformulated recently...

    Posted 4 months ago #
  63. 3rdguy

    3rdguy

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Aug 2017
    Posts: 1,181

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    A lot of times it is the only pipe tobacco I see in my local drugstores. It was all my Uncle smoked...he was my influence into pipes.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  64. olkofri

    Olkofri

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Sep 2017
    Posts: 1,790

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I am interested to see what Russ comes back with for an answer.

    He came with the answer aeons ago: Hearth & Home's Prince Andrew.

    Not the sweet, new grass with flowers is this harvesting of mine;
    Not the upland clover bloom...
    Posted 4 months ago #
  65. woodsroad

    woodsroad

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2013
    Posts: 8,421

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    How avout a blend simply called “Prince”.
    You’d need a prescription for it.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  66. mikethompson

    mikethompson

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jun 2016
    Posts: 3,318

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    So it isn't discontinued then?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  67. brian64

    brian64

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2011
    Posts: 4,815

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    How avout a blend simply called “Prince”.

    How about, "the blend formerly known as..."

    Posted 4 months ago #
  68. ashdigger

    ashdigger

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2016
    Posts: 4,802

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Too soon.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  69. sablebrush52

    sablebrush52

    The Bard Of Barlings
    Joined: Jun 2013
    Posts: 9,178

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Queen Victoria is not amused...

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

    It is pointless to argue with a fanatic since a dim bulb can't be converted into a searchlight. - Jesse Silver
    Posted 4 months ago #
  70. lordofthepiperings

    lordofthepiperings

    Preferred Member
    Joined: May 2010
    Posts: 6,419

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I'm under the impression that hardly any newer generation pipe smoker has much of interest in those old timey blends,they aren't enough interesting and sophisticated to contemporary pipe smoker tastes.

    As a 33yr old I can say personally that I had A pouch of it a while back and NEVER revisited it. The OTC blends are just too bland for me. Once I got into Escudo, Luxury Bullseye Flake, HH Pure Virginia I didn't really see much of a reason to revisit Prince Albert or Carter Hall.

    "The thinking man always smokes a Peterson." -Peterson of Dublin
    Posted 4 months ago #

Reply »

You must log in to post.

 

 

    Back To Top  | Back to Forum Home Page

   Members Online Now
   jiminks, derhammer, dino, chefbenny