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  1. crpntr1

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    I've only bought two actually new briar pipes, the rest have been either cobs or estates. The latest is a KW billiard that has a pre-carb, i assume, the bowl was lined with black when I got it, anyway I've read posts about the funky flavor going away after the first few bowls, but it hasnt yet & I'm on about the 9-10th bowl. Shouldnt the taste be gone by now?

    I'm a genius, kinda like Albert Frankenstein.
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    That would be cobs not cons

    Edit: I corrected the word for you so it reads a bit easier, L

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    One would think it would have.
    Give the shank airway a really thorough cleaning.
    If that doesn't cut the foul taste I'd s'pose all you can do is smoke through it.

    Snus, snuff and briar.
    Not much more required in a day.
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    Never had pre-carb give me a funky taste. Stain, yes.. pre-carb.. never noticed it. I smoked through the pre-carbs without problem. But maybe I just don't taste it ...

    I'd clean shank and swab the inside of bowl (if you have no cake yet) with everclear. Let it rest for a couple of days.

    "The fact is, squire, the moment a man takes to a pipe, he becomes a philosopher. It's the poor man's friend; it calms the mind, soothes the temper, and makes a man patient under difficulties. It has made more good men, good husbands, kind masters, indulgent fathers, than any other blessed thing on this universal earth."
    -"Sam Slick, the clockmaker" aka T.C.Haliburton
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  5. pstlpkr

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    I'm just wondering... is the "black" shiny or dull?
    It might be that the pipe is dip finished.
    I too, have never had any problem with a pre-carbonated bowl.
    The other thought I had was: I wonder if the manufacturer is using a "new" formula to carbonize the bowl.

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    manufacturer is using a "new" formula to carbonize the bowl.

    Good question. Pics may be helpful

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    The black was shiny..the first time I smoked it, half bowl, it was BAD, now I've moved to full bowls with it. The first half of the bowl is normal, then there's a slightly odd flavor. The last quarter of the bowl is almost like plastic burning. I just smoked it so it'll have to wait, but ill clean it up & try to get some pics, assuming it still looks the same as new. After that first smoke I cleaned the bowl with alcohol, hoping that would help.

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    I think I'll also try to e-mail kaywoodie direct & see if they have heard of this before...I don't suppose anyone has ever tried to contact them?

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  9. mluyckx

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    Shiny sounds like stain and not pre-carb. Can you get a pic up here ?

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    I agree with it may being stain. If the taste is really only bad at the bottom you could try putting a tiny bit of everclear in there and setting the bitch on fire to burn it out.

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    Ok I have alcohol on hand will that do?...everclear is a 20 min drive that im not up to this evening.

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    Pics wouldn't be a problem...if I could find my camera. I'll see what I can do.

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    There was another pipe where I got this one that looked the same inside, I'll go by there tomorrow & get a pic of it if its still there. I'll also clean mine up for comparison.

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    What alcohol ?? Anything drinkable ?

    My philosophy.... if I don't drink it, I don't want it touching my pipes

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    Uhh no sorry, I meant 99% alcohol

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  16. mluyckx

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    Others use it... I don't...but regardless I would scrub the shank with it. Then let it dry for a minimum of 48 hours. If it is stain in the bowl and you've smoked 10 bowls in it, I'm not quite sure how to handle that. I've only been smoking for about a year solid, so there may be more expert guys here that can help you.

    But cleaning the shank and stem thoroughly is not going to hurt anything.

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    Does pre-carb really aid anything?

    Granted I have pipes I bought with pre-carb, but I usually try to search out the pipes that don't have it...and it only takes a good 2 or 3 smokes before there's a carbon build up and after about the 5th bowl the interior of the chamber is nicely coated.

    I've never really noticed any more/less relights between a pre-carb bowl and one that isn't. And I haven't really noticed any particular taste either. I only had one pipe w/an uncoated bowl that had a bit of taste and that didn't last very long, gone by maybe the 2nd or 3rd bowl.

    I'm just kind of curious if the pre-carb actually does serve some sort of purpose or it's a sales gimmick that just stuck.

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    I used to be hesitant about buying a pre-carbed pipe...
    I used to think it was just another way to cover up pits and such.
    I have three or four I guess, but I can't remember which ones they are.

    Crpntr1

    As for the "Shiny" answer to my query...
    I wonder if it's (heaven forbid) shellac or varnish...
    If it is real glossy, you might consider sanding it out.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Cotton balls soaked with 99% grain will pull the stain out, don't get any on the outside of the bowl.

    Pre-carb bowls do not bother me anymore, the last Peterson I bought had one, it smoked fine from day one. I bought a new Sav the other day that did not, again smoked fine. I think a lot is made of something that will not bother you if you smoke slowly. OTOH the OP seems to have a stained bowl, and that will taste bad indeed. The salt method might help as well, for this but I am not sure.

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  20. juni

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    I've changed my mind about pre-carbs. In the future I'll always remove it before the first smoke. Once you've gone bare wood you can never go back.

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    90% of my pipe collection come from the same maker. A local artist, Brian Kalnitz It was not until I came to this site that I even considered buying any other brands. Sure his shop is filled with all the names you guys speak of here but for the same price I can just buy one of his, that he makes right there in shop. None of his pipes come with pre carbing in the bowl. It was not until I tried branching out that I came across this. Although my experience with it is limited to 2 pipes, I have never noticed any ill effects due to it. I have however found that for some reason from bowl 1 that the bare wood smokes nicer. Sure once the pipe breaks in they're all relatively the same assuming you've selected a pipe first hand and have inspected the drillings to be to your satisfactory level. But I have not had this foul taste spoken of here.

    I'd just assume it is stain and burn it off. You don't want to be smoking that shit off during a smoke.

    my .02

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  22. nsfisher

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    never a prob with pre-carb bowls, no diff in taste for me. i do have a cob, however that for the first 5-8 bowls tasted like burned plastic when i got to the bottom of the bowl. That is gone now tho and smokes just fine.

    Now i gotta larn how to reed and rite good
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  23. flyfishn

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    The cobs do have that fresh cob taste that you just have to work through. Re trying Half and Half in a new cob I was turned off of the blend. Knowing it was just the fidgety new cob though I smoked through it and am now loving the blend all over again. A briar should never have this problem though.....

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    Update: I sanded the inside of the bowl, cotton ball soaked with 99% alcohol for about 10 hrs, dried it with paper towel, went for everclear & burned the bottom of the bowl, then cleaned bowl stem & bit with everclear, & let it rest until 2 hrs ago, smoked it all the way to the bottom with no taste issues. Thanks for all the help!

    Posted 3 months ago #
  25. mluyckx

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    Nice !

    It's always good to hear things worked out.

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