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Polish Condor....What Happened?

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  • Started 5 months ago by pepesdad1
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  1. pepesdad1

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    I just tried to choke down the "new" Polish based Condor...Choke is the apt word...it was nasty tasting...almost foul. I smoked some of the Irish version prior to get the right taste cemented in my mind...the flavor the creaminess...all that was missing in the Polish version. I had to empty my pipe and clean it out with some Crown Royal to get rid of any lingering nastiness. I purchased it with the intent of seeing just how bad or hopefully just a little off the new Condor was....gag, hak, spit...all are the labels I would place on the tobacco review if asked.
    It saddens me to think that a fine tobacco...a heritage if you will, had been thrown out. The fine folks who used to be proud of what they were turning out for the connoisseur pipe smoker in the UK and elsewhere..what they must be feeling for this loss, this debasement of their heritage is something I wouldn't want to hear.

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    I think they went wrong when they added kielbasa to the blend. Garlic doesn't really smoke well.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

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    " Garlic doesn't really smoke well."

    That is a fact....this stuff is truly nasty...broke my heart.

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    There was a lengthy thread about the new 'Condor-ski' Plug a few months back started by yours truly. It is truly unsmokable and I have smoked tractor tires with more flavor. They totally ruined the brand although I am told the Condor Brown is alright and seems to have survived unmolested!

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    I sent the rest of mine to a friend from Krypton. I figure he has a chance of surviving the smoke.

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    That right Jim. I remember now that I had Jim give a 'Stewards Opinion' on the new plug just to make sure it wasn't just my taste buds playing up. As can been seen from the above he concurred with my thoughts. Actually it might be helpful Jim if you reproduce your opinion here again as it was really very pertinent and spot on the money.

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    This is my update to my original Condor plug review:
    Condor is now made in Poland, much to its detriment. The tobaccos have less strength and (practically no) nuances. The toppings are different, and weaker, though some soap and floralness is present. Has a bitter, unattractive sourness not present in the older manufacture. Will still ghost a briar and a meer. In the last third of the bowl, I detected a cigarette note that I never experienced before. The plug itself is moister and more pliable than before. In short, it’s not the same plug as before. This version gets one star.

    Posted 4 months ago #
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    Sounds great! Hoard now; they may be going out of business!

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    "the weez"...
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    Corporate f*cks could give a sh*t about anything except money.

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    Nice attitude, and way to express it!

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    Reminds me of the fella that had a super busy restaurant that specialized in Clam Chowder. He was thinking of retiring so he sold the restaurant to a corporate chain style operation. For many months the customers still came in droves, then slowly but surely the recipe was changed. The corporate chain could not understand
    the decline in business and decided to cut its losses.

    Cutting corners or changing recipes NEVER ends well.

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    Still pisses me off....grrr.

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    If you're fortunate enough to have access to Gawith Hoggarths Westmorland Slices, they could be a proper alternative. They're not available in the USA. A UK tobacconist told me that Condor was for folks who were too lazy to go to a tobacconist and that Westmorland was much better. I've only smoked a couple bowls of each, and not side by side, but I see the similarity.

    P.S. Not Samuel Gawith Westmorland. That's not the same.

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    There was a thread on another forum about how to identify, through the product code on the plug wrapper, whether the plug was made in Ireland or Poland. I can't locate that thread at the moment but will post it if I find it. I have only tried Condor a few times but quite enjoy it once in a blue moon and stocked up quite a bit when I heard that production was moving because I feared they would screw it up.

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    I find this Long Cut Flake (brown )is pretty enjoyable versus to green one.And perhaps would not ghost pipe that vigorously, remains to be seen.

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    Never got to try the old Condor. Oh well.

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    Polish jokes?

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    I just received a fresh shipment of Westmorland Slices from across the pond and compared it to a pouch of Condor Ready Rubbed I bought this fall in Scotland. They don't smell all that much alike. Condor is much more floral. Westmorland Slices has a richer stoved, licorice/molasses scent with a bit of Lakeland perfume. They're not equivalent in my book. I don't know where my Condor was manufactured, however.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Corporate f*cks don't give a shit about anything except money.

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    WELL said sir....again! It's as true as it was the first time.

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    I requoted for the pleasure of one of the forum brethren. When something gets raped over money, one should call a spade a spade.

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    I’d like to see you call a spade a spade. I’m rooting for the spade, though. I think you should know that.

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    I was able to get a couple of pouches from the 70s in one of Pipestud's offerings a few weeks back. Like a lot of many-decades old tobaccos that have been sealed it has that special "scent" which I identify in my mind as that ole' timey smell. It did not disappoint. Not only did it taste like Condor (not the Polish variety) but it also was a little stronger than the plugs I had gotten back 3 or 4 years ago from James Fox in Dublin. No wonder it was so popular over the decades in Britain when it was still made there

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    Welp,...like McClellands tobacco....when it runs out it runs out and there is no more (won't pay those ridiculous prices on eprey)...got a few flakes left and a small piece of a plug left...when it goes...that will be it for Condor...at least I can say that I have had the best of the Condor and I enjoyed it to the fullest....snif.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    Smoke What You Like, And Like What You Smoke...Regardless Of What Anyone Else Thinks...
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    Is that Condor brown or green?

    Posted 3 months ago #

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