Pipestud Needs Peterson Pipe Identification Help Please!

pipestud · May 25, 2019

Howdy Gang,
I currently have a Peterson's pipe on eBay that I thought was a Pre-Republic pipe, but received an email through the eBay messaging system that now has caused me some concern. I am not even close to being a Peterson's expert (or, an expert on anything for that matter), and have come running to you folks for help again.
First, here is the pipe auction in question - https://www.ebay.com/itm/153499719961
And this is the email I received through the eBay messaging system about the pipe - "...

According to the hallmark, this pipe is from 1976. It's not pre-republic. Pre-republic would be prior to 1950's. Just for your fyi so people don't get a misunderstanding of what they are bidding on. Later in the 1970s, Peterson began production of commemorative pipes, often referred to as replica or retro pipes and these will also have the old style lettering but according to the pipes that we own and have seen, most of these will have a small difference in the forked tail P . Again, there appears to be a cross-over with the old style forked tail and the later forked tail P s. However, these commemorative pipes generally have a silver band with hallmarks so one can date these pipes by the hallmark. As far as I can see, it's a Commemorative Pipe from the 1976 that was meant to be a "replica" of years past.

I want to end the auction if I've goofed up, but trust that someone here can either verify or deny the claim I received through the eBay messaging system from someone that I have never dealt with and do not know.
Thanks in advance,
Steve

mso489 · May 25, 2019

The source is everything. Unless you get some sense that this is a legitimate knowledgeable source, i'd have to assume he/she is a bidder who wants to talk you out of the auction. I'd factor it out of your thinking unless otherwise advised on the credibility of this person. Likely there are people who know about Peterson series who can be a second source on this.

ashdigger · May 25, 2019

Peterson pulled a trick on folks during the late 70's and early 80's. The info from the message appears correct. I have one of the pipes with the wind cap and its from 1978. I'll check on your hallmark though.

ashdigger · May 25, 2019

Unless you get some sense that this is a legitimate knowledgeable source, i'd have to assume he/she is a bidder who wants to talk you out of the auction

Tom, not in this case. The info is correct.

sablebrush52 · May 25, 2019

Yep, 1976,
https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dates/Dublin/Cycle%201968-1985.html

aquadoc · May 25, 2019

Hallmark on stem band same as on cap?

paulfg · May 26, 2019

i agree 1976

unkleyoda · May 26, 2019

Yeah. if the hallmark on the band matches the cap, it's a 1976. Gorgeous pipe.
I will be watching this auction, as I would love to buy it. Pre-republic or not it's beauty and I love Peterson wind cap pipes.

pipestud · May 26, 2019

It sure is comforting to know that I now have reliable proven sources to tell me about that pipe. Thanks bunches to ashdigger, sablebrush52, paulfg and unkleyoda for the confirmation. And unfortunately, unkleyoda, I am going to have to end that auction and relist it next Saturday with the corrected information.
You guys rock and thanks again!
Pipestud

unkleyoda · May 26, 2019

And unfortunately, unkleyoda, I am going to have to end that auction and relist it next Saturday with the corrected information.

Put a link to the new auction here, as I am interested in adding this pipe to my Peterson collection.
Thanks.

captainsousie · May 26, 2019

Could be worse...when I last looked there was a Viprati 'Ciao Lira' pipe being advertised as a "euro coin" pipe. The Euro didn't start in the 1990s when the 1000 Lira coin was made but at least the buyer 'hopefully' did his/her/its homework.

pipestud · May 26, 2019

Put a link to the new auction here, as I am interested in adding this pipe to my Peterson collection.Thanks.

And thank you for the interest in that pipe, unkleyoda. I think that I would be breaking Forum Rule #1. if I posted one of my eBay auctions here to promote a sale. However, as a site sponsor, I do have a link to my website here on pipesmagazine.com in the left hand column where it lists "Site Sponsors." When you click that link you will be redirected to my website and in the menu section will be a link to my current eBay auctions.
Thanks again,
Steve

ssjones · May 26, 2019

@Pipestud - what happens off site with forum sponsors, stays off site, so proceed! If a forum sponsor saves some Ebay fees, I'm all for that. I'm glad you found the info you needed. Even with commemorative Pete's, the hallmarks are always correct. (and due to stamps being used beyond eras, a hallmark is truly the only fool proof means of precisely dating a Peterson)

ashdigger · May 26, 2019

Even with commemorative Pete's, the hallmarks are always correct. (and due to stamps being used beyond eras, a hallmark is truly the only fool proof means of precisely dating a Peterson)

This is why I only buy hallmarked Pete's if I want a historical piece. Especially off FleaBay.

mso489 · May 26, 2019

pipestud, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to bolix up your bids, but the rest of the crew had the lowdown!

pipestud · May 26, 2019

@Pipestud - what happens off site with forum sponsors, stays off site, so proceed! If a forum sponsor saves some Ebay fees, I'm all for that. I'm glad you found the info you needed. Even with commemorative Pete's, the hallmarks are always correct. (and due to stamps being used beyond eras, a hallmark is truly the only fool proof means of precisely dating a Peterson)

Thanks for the clarification, ssjones! I will be sure to post a link to that auction when it starts over next Saturday.
Pipestud

pipestud · May 26, 2019

pipestud, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to bolix up your bids, but the rest of the crew had the lowdown!-MSO

You sure are right, MSO. Every time I've needed help over the years and posted here, I think the group has batted 1,000!
Steve

pipebaum81 · May 27, 2019

Excuse my budding in but buying from Pipestud is a pleasure and many times an education. Thanks for selling with integrity

bayareabriar · May 27, 2019

So cool how the pipe community supports each other. I love the breadth of knowledge everyone has. Also, that's a nice looking Peterson.

paulfg · May 28, 2019

@unkleyoda contact pipestud via the link ,maybe he will do a deal directly saving him ebay fees

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