Pipes Smokers May Be the Next Target of the FDA

admin · Oct 20, 2011

I now really believe that the only reason most politicians become politicians is because they can't get a real job.
What the heck is wrong with these people?
Pipes Smokers May Be the Next Target of the FDA

olderthandirt · Oct 20, 2011

Kevin, it's nice that this forum allows the occasional blue language because your article has me saying to myself, "What the Fuck, over?"

Oh, to simply be left alone...

gecko13 · Oct 20, 2011

They seek to regulate, tax and control everything every item in our lives. Remember, they're from the government and they're here to help.
:twisted:

yoru · Oct 20, 2011

I said it all last winter and I'll say it again: If you honestly think that premium tobacco should be treated any different than 'blue collar' tobaccos, like cigarettes. . .then you deserve what you get.
Either everyone has their rights, or no-one deserves them. That's the beauty of oligarchical democracy. . . our government is only ever as good as we are, and as we deserve.

lonestar · Oct 20, 2011

What Yoru said.

lonestar · Oct 20, 2011

Being as unpolitical as I can possibly be about it, you will noticed the word "Democrat" next to each of those names.

markw4mms · Oct 20, 2011

I said it all last winter and I'll say it again: If you honestly think that premium tobacco should be treated any different than 'blue collar' tobaccos, like cigarettes. . .then you deserve what you get.
Either everyone has their rights, or no-one deserves them. That's the beauty of oligarchical democracy. . . our government is only ever as good as we are, and as we deserve.

I agree, and Ben Franklin figured that out long ago.. see my signature.

olderthandirt · Oct 20, 2011

you will noticed the word "Democrat" next to each of those names

I resisted, thanks lonestar for goin' for it (-;

sherlock · Oct 20, 2011

While I agree with yoru in principle, I think that this is a losing argument. There is substantial evidence that cigarette smoking will have an adverse effect on your health. This is not the case with pipes and cigars. I would also argue that the perception of pipe/cigar smokers is different than cigarette smokers and this is important. It would not be good for us if we are associated with cigarette smokers who smoke packs a day and cannot live without them for more than a few minutes. If we are going to be able to keep our hobby going without it become too expensive we must convince the greater public that there is a difference between Luxury tobacco and so called blue collar tobacco. I do not believe in prohibiting cigarettes any more that I believe in prohibiting pipes, but if we take the stance of all tobacco or no tobacco we will loose all tobacco. I also think the whole "I will just point out that it's democrats thing" violates the no talking politics rule. Clearly you mean to do more than just point it out.

kamikazesasquatch · Oct 20, 2011

Supreme executive power is derived by a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

mp31guitar · Oct 20, 2011

I'm tired of the anti's running over us. We have rights too. Let me at 'em.

olderthandirt · Oct 20, 2011

Little ol' varmint gun there eh?

papipeguy · Oct 20, 2011

Had I known that the federal government was going to protect me from myself to this level I wouldn't have gotten married.

rigmedic1 · Oct 20, 2011

The TSA is going to be covering the interstates, looking for anything that "doesn't look right" in their hunt for terrorists as well. Guess eventually we will need a license to smoke in our vehicles.

ace57 · Oct 20, 2011

PAUL for President! :worship: :clap:

kamikazesasquatch · Oct 20, 2011

Yoru, I agree with you that it's hypocritical to want to tax one form and not another, but that doesn't mean that just because you've lost a battle you throw in the towel for the whole war. That's how I'd see this. Cigarettes are one battle, pipes are another, snuff another, etc. I'm all for the gov just leaving me the hell alone as long as I'm not harming anyone else...but that's just me.

dongreyface · Oct 21, 2011

Man, just the last couple weeks has really made me embarassed to live in Ohio. What with the media coverage of the exotic animals escaping, and now this. And I agree, PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!!

jasongone · Oct 21, 2011

It is all one battle and it has absolutely nothing to do with tobacco. Minor minor skirmishes working towards a frightening end. Every inch given moves everything closer to the end... Just my view.
@yuro - very very well said.

cortezattic · Oct 21, 2011

@sherlock, the forum rules do not forbid talking politics that have to do with tobacco policies and legislation.

So then, let me just say this ~~nazi-ism~~ nannyism is a Democrat thing.

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And now, an interesting observation by igloo... :clap:

igloo · Oct 21, 2011

How come everybody know whats best for me , but me .And why does it always involve me paying more taxes . It seems to me there is a lot of knowledge these days , but no wisdom . :crazy:

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