Pipes and Cigars low stock

pipeanddrum · Nov 26, 2016

Is it me or has pipesandcigars been out of stock on much of their pipe tobacco? 9 out of 10 tinned tobaccos I searched for earlier was out-of-stock or on backorder. It's been this way for weeks if not months. I placed an order on p&c about 3 weeks ago for tobacco which included tins that I knew were on backorder, assuming they'd get a shipment within 2-3 weeks. I wrote asking when they thought those 2 particular GL Pease blends would come in. The response was that they "do not have a reliable ETA at this time". Is this some indication of a troubled business? - Perhaps in light of impending changes in tobacco laws? Anyone else notice how thin the stock is over at p&c?

jackswilling · Nov 26, 2016

There was a thread on this a few weeks ago. As I recall, there was no definitive answer. It was worse then than now.

pipeanddrum · Nov 27, 2016

Thanks for the info, Jack. I guess I'll have to take my business elsewhere for the time being.

woodsroad · Nov 27, 2016

My guess is that with all the various promotions, they sold a shit load if tobacco over the past few months. Restocking is slower, what with all the new blends bottlenecking production.

shutterbugg · Nov 27, 2016

They might be keeping their inventory low for tax purposes until the calendar or fiscal year turns over.

hawky454 · Nov 27, 2016

I have noticed that. They sent me a $20 gift card and I could hardly find something I wanted to get. Thanks for the gift card P&C. I really do appreciate it.

mso489 · Nov 27, 2016

Every pipe/tobacco business must be positioning themselves as well as possible for the new regs. If you can find what you want at PC in stock, now might be a good time to buy, to support them. I was at my independent shop talking to the owner/proprietor who I've known for almost 40 years. He was especially frustrated that nothing is being made clear. He presumes he won't be able to do any blends on site, etc. etc., but the worst is that nothing is being made clear, so he's hanging out to dry. For a small business (which PC, though larger is) this is a death by a thousand cuts, or feels that way. Iwan Ries with so many blends that go back to the 1950's or further, things might be somewhat easier, but this still gouges their inventory. Direct whatever good feelings you can to all of these businesses. If you're worried, it's their livelihood as well as their pleasure.

troutface · Nov 27, 2016

I thought Pennsylvania passed a new tax on inventory, so retailers were keeping inventories low until the new year. Maybe someone with better info could fill us in.

pipeanddrum · Nov 27, 2016

I'd like to support p&c as much as possible but it's hard to do so when they don't have anything I want in stock - and that's at least 10 different blends. Fingers crossed that they'll restock their inventory soon so I can do the same with my cellar and give them some business in the process. Practicing patience and keeping my TAD in check for the time being.

mikestanley · Nov 27, 2016

As far as the inventory tax, believe stores had to take inventory on iirc Oct 1 and pay tax on the current stock. I suspect they couldn't have anything

on order then either, but that is just speculation on my part. Low inventory does seem to be the online store business model over the past several years.
Mike S.

pagan · Nov 27, 2016

This forums "Secret Santa" dun ran em out of stock :rofl:

balkisobrains · Nov 27, 2016

If you can make up an order on in-stock and back-ordered items, you pay and then they ship the in-stock stuff, and then the B.O. stuff when/as it gets there. I've had up to three boxes at three different times arrive from one discounted order. The shipping was free since the original order qualified. Can't say how they handle that if you don't have free shipping to begin with.

bigpond · Nov 27, 2016

I just tried to take advantage of their 15% off sale but every blend I wanted to buy was out of stock. So I passed.
Was looking at GL Pease.

papipeguy · Nov 27, 2016

P&C is also integrating a new computer program company wide which is giving them some headaches.

jacks6 · Nov 27, 2016

I've just decided to patronize smokingpipesa and 4noggins. I've been rubbed the wrong way too many times with P&C as of late. Still to this day awaiting backordered items from July too...

blendtobac · Nov 28, 2016

I thought Pennsylvania passed a new tax on inventory, so retailers were keeping inventories low until the new year. Maybe someone with better info could fill us in.

That was certainly a part of the issue as we had to pay a floor tax on everything in the warehouse. Also, some of the manufacturers have been so slammed with trying to get new products to market before the August 8th cutoff that some of their manufacturing has lagged. We are actively working to get everything back in stock and apologize for any inconvenience.
Russ

davet · Nov 28, 2016

we had to pay a floor tax on everything in the warehouse

That's the way it is in Canada. Once a product is made tax is due, that kind of stupidity has sent Imperial Tobacco to Mexico, taxes are due once the product arrives in Canada.

Thanks for the clarification Russ.

Chasing Embers · Nov 28, 2016

I've just decided to patronize smokingpipesa and 4noggins. I've been rubbed the wrong way too many times with P&C as of late. Still to this day awaiting backordered items from July too...

+1

pipeanddrum · Nov 28, 2016

@bigpond - I feel your pain. I was hoping to take advantage of the "deal" today but, as previously stated, none of the tobacco I want is in stock. Surprise!

@jacks6 - Waiting on an order from July? I'm starting to feel like I need to take my business elsewhere. Not sure I want to wait until March (or later) for items I ordered earlier in the month.

mrbaho · Nov 28, 2016

With 4Noggins recent political rant on Facebook, it will be a cold day in hell before I purchase from them again.

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