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Pipe Removed from Van Gogh Statue

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  1. briarfriar

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    Not legislation, but the relentless hand of stupidity nonetheless. And in Brixton!

    https://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/van-gogh-statue-brixton

    Posted 7 months ago #
  2. cortezattic

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    Next thing y'know they'll remove the pipe from Frosty The Snowman and Santa images,
    maybe even smoking references in literature.

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
    Posted 7 months ago #
  3. bnichols23

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    fears they could be linked to drug, knife and gun crime

    Oh, Freaking-PLEEEEASE.... Dept.

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    Posted 7 months ago #
  4. voorhees

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    Oh my God. I really hate the PC crowd or as I call them, the terminally "butt-hurt".

    Jason
    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. trouttimes

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    Going to do a drug deal, let's see, drugs, check, gun, check, pipe and lighter, check.
    I think it fits.

    “The Road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began.
    Now far ahead the Road has gone, I must follow if I can
    Posted 7 months ago #
  6. autumnfog

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    They've done the same thing in France, there was an exhibition on Jean-Paul Sartre and they removed his cigarette from ad posters.

    Another example a couple of years ago.
    Mr Hulot's pipe removed.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-pipe/mr-hulots-pipe-censored-by-paris-metro-idUSTRE53G5CA20090417

    This isn't just about a pipe being removed.
    In a wider perspecitve they are erasing uncomfortable phenomena from history which is endlessly stupid.
    We can't adjust history to better suit the political correctness of our times.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  7. haparnold

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    “Concerns over these objects show the power they still have and help convey the reality of the suffering that Van Gogh endured”

    Ohhhhh brother

    De Gustibus Non Est Disputandum
    Posted 7 months ago #
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    What ever would we do without THE STATE to protect us...

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    “Concerns over these objects show the power they still have and help convey the reality of the suffering that Van Gogh endured”
    Ohhhhh brother

    Exactly! Hence the reason that we marvel at his work. Do you think he would be the same man if it were not for his demons? He created art that is what it is because he was who he was. Those items were not just random objects that condone violence, but pieces of his past that were a part of what made him. I don't know much about the man, but I'm pretty sure the issues he had led to the creation of the works he did as a sort of therapy to get his mind off the issues that drove him to eventually shoot himself. Only after his death was he realized as the artist "where discourses on madness and creativity converge".

    Why don't we teach things anymore instead of automatically determining something is bad and just trying to scrub it from history? It's happening to all sorts of other things and I have to turn a blind eye because I'll get, what's the term they use these days....."triggered"....but my idea of triggered is way different than theirs.

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    Posted 7 months ago #
  10. sablebrush52

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    The artist chose to self-censor and it's unclear who brought up the association with drugs, etc. The council did not demand the changes, but certainly encouraged it.

    Personally, I like the result better without the clutter.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

    It is pointless to argue with a fanatic since a dim bulb can't be converted into a searchlight. - Jesse Silver
    Posted 7 months ago #
  11. mikethompson

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    “The Hackford Road area is lovely, but the pipe, razor and gun could nevertheless be seen as a concern in a city where there is a high incidence of these crimes”

    So the pipe is illegal?

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    It's so easy to blame the politician, not the electors I suppose. Politicians nearly always address the "easy" stuff, less exposure I suppose. But, blaming them lets the voters off the hook.

    A man without a shillelagh is a man without an expedient.
    Posted 7 months ago #
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    Going to do a drug deal, let's see, drugs, check, gun, check, pipe and lighter, check.
    I think it fits.

    Sounds legit.

    And Hap, BTW, I'm with you. Anybody who'd even THINK about comparing the two things is even sicker in the head than the artist was....

    Posted 7 months ago #
  14. olkofri

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    So the pipe is illegal?

    No, but it could get youth interested in smoking and lead to addiction to tobacco or pot.

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    Not the upland clover bloom...
    Posted 7 months ago #
  15. olkofri

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    Never cared for van Gogh, but his paintings are sublime compared to all this ubiquitous, pandemic sinistrae revisionism.

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    Hared to get stirred by the permutations of pop culture propounded by stupid people.

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  17. ashdigger

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    I'd give that guy an ear full....oh, wait...

    Ubi Ignis Est?
    Posted 7 months ago #
  18. peckinpahhombre

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    I'd give that guy an ear full....oh, wait...

    OK, you bastard, you got me to laugh out loud at this one.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  19. wyfbane

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    You could give them one, but not two. Lol

    This is a case of a vocal group petitioning until the politician has decided this is low hanging fruit. It does fall to the politician to decide whether this vocal group represented a majority of constituents and whether it is then action worthy.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  20. wyfbane

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    Crap. Dbl post.

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    ...and help convey the reality of the suffering that Van Gogh endured

    Poor chap just needed someone to lend an ear.

    “Bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” – George Carlin
    Posted 7 months ago #
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    As for voting...doesn't accomplish much when the only choice you have is the Crips or the Bloods.

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    I once heard the perfect definition for:

    Political Correctness- The notion that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.

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    Posted 7 months ago #
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    I think the finished product is cleaner for sure, I agree with Jesse. I mean you could make the case against the gun, but then it's a whole slippery slope from there for me.

    Its just the world we live in. But there is some hope. Recently, the Christmas song "Baby It's Cold" came under scrutiny after some people felt the lyrics were inappropriate. But the song has returned to at least one playlist due to the negative reaction it got.

    Full Story

    Posted 7 months ago #
  25. bnichols23

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    I'd give that guy an ear full....oh, wait...

    Oh, damn, ash. You did NOT just say that.....

    Bill

    Posted 7 months ago #
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    Today's world motto: Behave well and follow the main rules of political correctness .

    Paul The Scandinavian'
    Posted 7 months ago #

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