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  • Started 2 years ago by excav8tor
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  1. bubbadreier

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    Wow that was a steal!

    Mason jars and bale top jars, mason jars and bale top jars.... that is all!

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  2. unclearthur

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    Beautiful pipe! Amazing price as well!!!

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    Nice one for 5 pounds!

    Regards,
    Phil
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  4. collin

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    excav8tor,..if I were that lucky I'd immediately put that Peterson in a safe place, run to the local park and start looking for wallets!

    (All kidding aside, that's a beautiful pipe, congrats!)

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  5. unclearthur

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    Bit of a puzzle here. the last pipe in the photo is a #0 System that was thrown in as a bonus on a recent ebay purchase. From the nickle cap it appears to be fairly old (more gentle curve to the cap) it is a 1312 made in England and it is absolutely beautiful. The question is does anyone have the faintest idea of age ?
    http://pipesmagazine.com/members/unclearthur/album/picture/1245

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  6. skipper

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    #0 System? Without Sterling silver hallmarking?

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  7. unclearthur

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    No hall marks. The K&P Peterson stamping on the cap is also upside down compared to more recent pipes.

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  8. unclearthur

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    Here is a halfassed good shot of the stamping. It uses the split tailed P which doesn't show up well in the picture.

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  9. chuckw

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    About as close as I can come is 1938 to 1949 because of the unusual nickle mount. A grade 0 is the equal of a Deluxe and should have a silver mount. The single looped split-tailed P was used until sometime in the 1970's on some pipes.
    By the way, you forgot to load the last picture.
    Is the Made in England in a circle or straight line?

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  10. skipper

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    What are the markings under the K&P?
    And the ones in the right side of the pic? I can't see them in the photo.

    As far as I know, in the 1905 catalog didn't exist the "0" as grading symbol. The first grade pipes didn' show any symbol, the 2nd grade were marked with a 2 within a circle and thr 3rd grade ones with a 3 also within a circle.
    But then they were all marked as Patent...

    I don't know when the "0" and "1" markings were first used. Your ring is indeed older as the '70s ones but his shape is found as early as 1905.
    Also, the 1312 shape number I have not encountered it after the ´50s
    So... Jim, help us!

    And on viewing your pics I have discovered a Dunmore 73 (or 74, not sure about the size in the picture. It's my favorite Peterson's series! Or is it maybe a Kapp Royal?

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  11. unclearthur

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    One more try here for the picture of the stampings . The made in England stamp is on the bottom side of the shank directly under the cap. Straight lines
    Made in
    England
    1312
    On the cap the stampings are K&P Peterson of Dublin with the Peterson marks beneath the K&P
    http://pipesmagazine.com/members/unclearthur/album/picture/1247
    The Dunmore is a 77. The series is getting hard to come by it seems I rarely see them offered. A shame I like them a lot as well.

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  12. excav8tor

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    I have a grade 0 too, but was Made in Ireland (above -Made in & below, Ireland). The mount though is definitely not silver and neither is it nickel, but it does have the Peterson Logo and 'Peterson's' on it.

    When I first got it, the mount looked like aluminium because it was oxidising in a few spots just as aluminium will in time. Nickel tends to go a yellow colour when it looses the initial shine, this was a matt grey colour, again, as you would associate with aluminium.

    It's strange that a '0' would not have a silver mount?

    The only thing I could think of is that it was manufactured at a time when silver was in very short supply (the War years between 1939 and 45) although shortages of materials would have extended right into the 50's (Rationing didn't finish in the UK until 1954).

    Here is a picture (with the band cleaned up) but with NO hallmark.

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  13. excav8tor

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    A little off topic, but I have just seen a Pete on fleabay apparently carved by Paddy Larrigan HERE. Currently at $78 with 3 days to go.

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  14. chuckw

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    The P.L on the shank tells us it is one of his pipes. He designed the Sherlock Holmes series

    Posted 2 years ago #
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    I have been posting here for a while but just now came across this long, informative thread about Petersons. From my research some of the posts are by the recognized Pete experts. I am a Pete Nut and anxiously await a Grafton I just bought on Ebay. So, I am posting only to bring it to the top as there may be other Nuts out there that have not enjoyed this great thread. There is info here I have not read anywhere else.

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    OK, bumping this up for the Peterson experts. I posted these pics in my other thread but wondering if anyone can figure out the age of this 999. That and I read thru this thread this morning and I really liked it so bump.




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    The 3rd hallmark from the left (er, the one on the right), what is it? I have a dating book for Peterson but cannot make out the hallmark.

    Mike

    Posted 8 months ago #
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    Ok I've got a Pete I've been trying to date for a month or two, originally to sell but now I think I might keep it...anyway its a 1066. Peterson's says they have no record of that model..ever. I sent them pics of it and the closest they can match is from a 1905 catalog. there are nomarkings other than peterson and 1066. the name is printed in an arch pattern and the p has a forked bottom and a swirl in the loop. the stamping is very worn, this is the best I've been able to get of it.

    this is it with a 106 for comparison

    Any knowledge of this pipe would be appreciated

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    Posted 8 months ago #
  19. numbersix

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    This link might interest you:

    http://thepetersonpipeproject.blogspot.com/2007/07/dating-peterons-pipes.html

    The forked tail on the "P" indicates it's either really old, or a replica (and based on the wear on the logo, I am guessing really old)

    Good luck - let us know what you find.

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    Hi. The P. L. On the Sherlock Holmes pipes us Patrick Larrigan. He's my grandfather and is 87 years old. He would answer any question about pipes as he worked for petersons for over 40/50 years.
    Thanks

    Orla

    Posted 5 months ago #
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    Hi. The P. L. On the Sherlock Holmes pipes us Patrick Larrigan. He's my grandfather and is 87 years old. He would answer any question about pipes as he worked for petersons for over 40/50 years.
    Thanks

    Wow Orla, that's some source! Hire a ghost writer -- I bet a book of his info and stories would make you both a small fortune!

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    What pete dates could these stamps indicate? No COM anywhere.The shank going from bottom toward the cap is PETERSON with forked P in a half circle--over SYSTEM--over circled 3. No model number,no dublin. The nickle cap is stamped going around the radius instead of top to bottom and can be read holding the stem upward--K&P PETERSON is on the top line with the peterson only half as tall as K&P. The shamrock, fox, and tower stamps are under the K&P. The really odd thing is that the "&" is not the regular ampersand like all other petersons have. It is exactly the number 8 (with both circles the same size)and a tilted v joining the bottom circle of the eight--like this 8. Does any of this indicate an age?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  23. colcolt

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    I guess the Watson is about my largest Peterson and a great smoker.

    The 307 is another great favorite...

    However, the smaller "Professor" is my favorite of the line. Great smoker, hangs just right for a clincher and seldom needs to be relit.


    Posted 4 months ago #

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