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Peterson Irish Flake: how strong is it? (first non-aromatic tobacco)

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  • Started 2 months ago by Machado
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  1. mrmachado

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    I just purchased this tobacco online.

    I've heard it's very strong.

    What are your opinions on this?

    It's my first non-aromatic as stated in title and I'm very excited to try it.

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  2. davidy97

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    Good blend. Close to old dark fired. Strong

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  3. philobeddoe

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    I’d call it an 8/10 if puffed at a moderate pace, push it hard and the room will spin.

    "So it goes." - K.V.
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  4. whitebar

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    It is one of my favorites and is somewhat strong. Strength likely depends on your tolerance for nicotine. Maybe eat a meal before your first bowl and see how it goes.

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    I think I remember from your other threads that you are used to nicotine, so it won't be a problem for you. It is the strongest blend in my rotation along with Royal Yacht, 1792 Flake, Lakeland Dark and Bold Kentucky. But it is a pleasant smoke. Not at all harsh or anything like that.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    This can be a useful resource: Tobacco Reviews

    Many of those who contribute reviews there are also members here.

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    Its all based on personal tolerances of course, but I find Irish Flake very strong.

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  8. georgebmcclelland

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    If you smoked cigarettes for a long time before you took up the pipe, you may not feel the nicotine as much as folks who didn't. I never got any of the head-spinning sickness that I've heard of, I just get the nice, familiar comfort feeling that tells me a blend is strong. I have gotten a small buzz from Irish Flake, but not every time. I'd still consider it a strong blend, though, based on the fact that I felt it. And yes, if you haven't built up a tolerance, best to eat something first... I guess? I really wouldn't know, I was born with a lip full of Grizzly Long-Cut Straight.

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  9. onestrangeone

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    Only one way to find out!
    Like the others have said it just depends on how your body reacts, I smoke a lot of blends that are considered ‘strong’ and haven’t yet found anything that is a room spinner for me.
    I sent some samples of what I considered med to full to a friend, he tried the Royal Yacht, didn’t even finish the bowl and said he was sick for two days, so ya never know!

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    As others have said, reactions are individual. I have a high nicotine tolerance. I never was a cigarette smoker. It must be a body chemistry thing. - You might want to have a sweet drink handy before you light up. That can help counteract the nicotine if it becomes a problem.

    "You are remembered for the rules you break." - General Douglas MacArthur
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    Why don't you tell us?

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    Mandaro, I'd pack your smallest pipe or a partial bowl and get a measure of the blend. Diving right in is "fun," and I've done that, but if you want to enjoy and continue with this blend, it would be good to get to know it and its strength. With your cigarette background, it might be nothing. But smoke it to enjoy it, I'd say.

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    I will tell you guys as soon as it arrives, for sure!

    Reading your opinions, it seems like I won't feel the nic hit, since I've inhaled big cigars and never felt it. I'm sill very curious about it though.

    Since it's my first non-aromatic and I've heard great things about this particular one, it feels like a very promising experience.

    I've always liked the strongest cigarettes and cigars.

    It's a shame non-aromatics are so expensive around here (for my pocket). This Peterson cost me $30. If I like it and then come back to smoking only 7 Seas and its friends ($6), it will be kind of sad.

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  14. mrmachado

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    Diving right in is "fun," and I've done that, but if you want to enjoy and continue with this blend, it would be good to get to know it and its strength.

    Well, even if I don't like it, I will feel the need to smoke the whole tin, considering the money it cost me...

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    Very strong. Dark Flake and rope are stronger. Though also very strong, 1792 and University Flake not as strong. On par with War Horse.

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    Irish Flake is awesome! Full flavored and smooth.


    So you say you can drink? Well, I'm from Wisconsin. Try to keep up.
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    Irish Flake, G&H dark flakes and Mc Baren Old Kentucky all are strong but tasty blends,the Revor plug is a hair milder though.

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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  18. mrmachado

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    In your opinion, should I rub the chamber with alcohol/spirits before starting to smoke this tobacco to remove the ghost of the aromatics that I smoke?

    Also, should I smoke the whole tin without intercalating with aromatics to enjoy the full flavor?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. mrmachado

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    So, it arrived today.

    I felt very nauseous when smoking it, and after it too.

    Not like a traditional nic hit. No room spinning or light-headedness. Just pure lingering, persistent nausea.

    Have tried it with empty stomach, with full stomach, with water, with cold coffee, and even used anti-nausea medication... Nothing worked.

    Very bad. I don't know if the problem is the type of tobacco, the strength of the blend, or whatever else.

    Anyone else with the same issue?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. workman

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    No. That one is new to me.

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    Machado, do you get nausea regardless of the pipe you smoke?

    Not the sweet, new grass with flowers is this harvesting of mine;
    Not the upland clover bloom...
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  22. mrmachado

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    Machado, do you get nausea regardless of the pipe you smoke?

    Do you mean pipe, or pipe tobacco?

    Nausea happens every so often with random tobaccos.

    But the nausea from this Peterson Irish Flake was just absurd.

    I'm not giving up on it yet though.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. olkofri

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    Pipe. I was wondering if it's only with that Savinelli that got the cleaning treatment.

    Sorry for beating a dead horse, but I still think that nicotine is not your problem.

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  24. mrmachado

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    Actually with the Savinelli I felt way less nausea than with this new Stanwell. Barely zero.

    God knows why.

    Maybe the Stanwell is the problem? You got me thinking...

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  25. mrmachado

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    OK, just tried a partial bowl in my old Savinelli and it's much better in all senses.

    No nausea and the taste is much better.

    I wonder if a pipe that isn't broken-in (the Stanwell) can make a person nauseated (?). Doesn't make a lot of sense but seems to be the only explanation.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  26. paulie66scandinavian

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    Machado, This IF is renowned of being a strong tobacco,You better off with partial bowls or smaller ones

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    Paul, the Savinelli smoked better straight away. It must have something to do with the pipe too...

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    Wondering if your having a reaction to briar. Was the Savinelli bowl coated with the black pre-carbonization when it was new? Was the Stanwell bowl bare/naked briar? Maybe the Stanwell bowl was stained inside?

    I know you have experience with cigarettes and cigars correct and you had no issues with nicotine before this right?

    Just a thought. Trying to eliminate variables.

    "May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." Charles Lamb
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  29. olkofri

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    It's possible that you might be having a reaction to the chemicals used in the coating. Maybe your next pipes should be coatless.

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    Wondering if your having a reaction to briar. Was the Savinelli bowl coated with the black pre-carbonization when it was new? Was the Stanwell bowl bare/naked briar? Maybe the Stanwell bowl was stained inside?

    The Savinelli was black inside, but I don't know if it was pre-carbonized. It tasted neutral to me. The Stanwell pre-carb had a strong taste though.

    It's possible that you might be having a reaction to the chemicals used in the coating. Maybe your next pipes should be coatless.

    And here I am with the salt and alcohol treatment and reaming again. I thought more or less the same thing as you thought. It's one step away from bare wood now. I'm being very careful not to over-ream it this time.

    Oh, and the Irish Flake tasted waaaay better on my first pipe, the Imbuia Bazzanelli, which has quite some cake in it. Tastes way sweeter.

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    I think every manufacturer uses a different process or compound for their coatings. Funny thing is that these coatings are meant to hasten the build up of the famous cake.

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    Yes... I think that this does more harm than good, at least in my case.

    "Haste makes waste"

    Adding fake cake when you can just build it normally... I won't ever buy a coated pipe again.

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    Smoked a bowl last night, probably 3 hours after dinner. My stomach was turned upside down. My mistake on way too many retrohales...

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    Machado@Thats a good bet,but take it easy,since as for me,I almost had created a burn out to two of my estates and one brand new,learned it hard way, whereas today when I have a pipe with a naked chamber,prior to first smoke I'd give a chamber a swirl or two of hone,I have found this helps in building a tiny carbon layer faster,agreed this very additional sugar while burning may also lead to some overheating issues.

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    Once I began to find this blend amazing and started to mix it with other tobaccos to tone it down, the tin was finished. What a shame.

    It's really like a hammer in the head though. I only get to fully enjoy it if I tone it down. Despite its amazing taste, it's damn strong.

    monkeylyf I understand how you feel...

    Paul I thought this honey thing was a myth, nice to know it's true.

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    What are your opinions on this?

    Strong, and tasted/smelled too much like cigarettes for me to enjoy.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  37. mso489

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    Partial bowls sounds like the way to go for now. You may be puffing too hard, so try to sip instead. Stay hydrated. I think you'll hit a stride where you'll enjoy the flavor and won't get the nausea, but take it slow.

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    If you have more pipes you can also put a pipe aside when you're bored with Irish Flake and load another one with some other tobacco. I often pack a full bowl of it and when my nicotine needs are satisfied I switch to something lighter. It sometimes takes several days or even a week to finish it all.

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    I use old dark fired like that too, as a way to complement lighter tobaccos to give them more strength and flavour.

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