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  1. owen

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    Having smoked a number of budget pipes I now want to spend a bit more on a great pipe, but here is the thing; can you please make a few recomendations for quality pipes based on how they smoke rather than how they look?
    I guess there a huge number of factors that determine the price of premium pipes so appologise if this question just leads to personal preference.

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  2. masonwarden

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    In terms of how they smoke, a good thing to consider is whether or not you use/enjoy a filter. Similarly, if you don't enjoy a filter, how do you feel about the draw resulting from a filtered pipe without the filter? This can be cheaply and easily experienced by using a filtered cob.

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  3. owen

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    I have tried a cob with and without and like the easy draw that comes without a filter. I seem to smoke rather hard so anything other than this I end up with a sore head and feel really cross!

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  4. metarzan

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    One man's budget pipe is another man's top of the line dream pipe. What price range are we talking here? I am assuming an off the shelf mainstream brand and not a commission? For me it goes Stanwell, Nording, Savinelli, Peterson but I also have a cheaper Viking that I like best of all. Preference will vary but any of those four would be a great step up from a basket pipe or a cob IMO.

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  5. owen

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    About £50 will be the top for me, straight billiard I guess, Savinelli,Peterson, Parker?

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  6. escioe

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    You're in England. Go find a used Comoy or GBD on eBay. It'll already be broken in, and if it smoked poorly, it wouldn't have lasted long enough to be sold in 2014.

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  7. cosmicfolklore

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    Any pipe can deliver a fantastic smoke, IMO. I don't think there's a pipe out there that makes a pipe that smokes horribly. Even Petersons smoke well.
    Just get what you can afford and learn how that pipe wants to be smoked. The cost has absolutely no bearing on anything. This idea of quality is in relation to what you prefer in a pipe. If you like Grabows, then pipes that have qualities similar to that will be your idea quality. If you prefer the qualities of a Dunhill, then your stuck buying expense factory pipes. YMMV

    Michael
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    The drilling is most important to functionality.
    the bowl interior walls should be straight and smooth, and the draft hole should be as close to the center of the bottom of the bowl as possible. If all appears to be in good order run a pipe clean through, if the pipe cleans passes through easily then you are in good shape.
    On a side note make sure if you get a freehand pipe that the pipe walls don't have thin areas.

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  9. mso489

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    Most of the better known brands come in a range of prices. You can spend $50 or hundreds on a Savenelli,
    and get your money's worth. Same with Chacom, Stanwell, Nording, Neerup, and so on. Most pipes of these
    brands will smoke well. So you CAN factor looks into it. If a pipe isn't appetizing to you, it can be a fine
    smoker, but you may not pick it up as often. I like to buy my pipes new, but many get more satisfaction
    out of buying an estate pipe at considerably less than the new price. Most of the good brands won't disappoint
    you, new or estate. Likewise, you don't have to spend hundreds to buy hand-carved pipes, most of which are
    fine smokers, new or estate. Decide what you feel comfortable spending, and buy from a reputable retailer,
    like the sponsors of pipesmagazine, and you will do well, nine times out of ten, or better.

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  10. 12pups

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    Short answer is, you can't know until you've smoked it. I have a Sav that sucks shit. Another, wonderful! just absolutely wonderful. Both of the guys who sold them to me told me they'd be wonderful. After all, they were Savinelli's.

    Now I know better.

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    Escioe gave you some *very* sound advice. The fact that these old British pipes are still available today, speaks well for them. I'm partial to the old Comoy's Tradition lovats- easily had for 5-20 pounds on ebay. They are made of excellent wood, with superb engineering, and very light in weight.

    Best Wishes,
    Bill Withers

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    If you are buying it from a shop and have a chance to actually inspect it....

    Make sure that the drill hole in the bottom of the bowl is lined up in the center with the draft hole in the stem. A good pipe will have a straight shot from the mouth piece all the way to the drill hole at the bottom of the tobacco chamber. In conjunction with that, ideally it will pass a pipe cleaner no problem.

    Also, it's best when the drill hole is level with the bottom of the tobacco chamber. Use your cell phone or get in some good lighting but these things will prove a better smoke than a pipe that can't pass a cleaner with a drill hole a half inch above the bottom of the bowl.

    And make sure you love how it looks

    I'm an expert in my own opinion
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    I cannot say enough good things about my Randy Wiley. They start around 150 ish dollars and I love mine! But to be fair, mine was closer to 300 and I've only ever seen the 150-200 ones, never smoked

    As far as bang for your buck, I have 6 Savinellis, and they ranged from 70 dollars to almost 200. They are great pipes and look classy as hell too!

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  14. owen

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    Thanks guys some sound, sound advice. This problem has come about because of an ebay pipe purchase which has blown me away due to the way it smokes. That said as I smoke it more it is more than just that, the pipe has real balance and all other little factors that must be playing a part to.

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    Proper drilling is a must, a shank dimension of 4.0-4.5 mm is a must and having thicker walls will also be a key factor. For shorter money companies like Castello, Radice Ardor, Mastro De Paja, Don Carlos, Savinelli offer great values. For and artisan pipe, Rad Davis is my favorite. A hand cut stem that has no turbulence makes a huge difference in how a pipe will smoke. I am not a big fan of the British pipes because in general, their shank dimensions are smaller than 4.0 mm and they can smoke wet.

    Also remember, you cannot smoke grain so a blasted pipe will smoke every bit as good as a smooth for much less money.

    Harris
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  16. cortezattic

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    P&C.com has a bunch of N.O.S. Dutch Hilson Vintage pipes on sale: $120 pipes reduced to $95
    They are 40 - 50 yrs. old, and look like a great buy. I bought this Dublin and I am very pleased with it.

    I just noticed you are in England. Too bad P&C won't ship internationally.

    Invicta Briars makes a reasonably priced pipe (£45) with great performance. Mine isn't pretty, but it smokes well.

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  17. msandoval858

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    For me the key factors are drilling, good thickness in the walls, the stem and overall fit and finish. Although most guys consider the pipe cleaner test a must, I have had several bent pipes that smoke wonderfully despite not passing a cleaner easily. Now if you have a straight billiard that doesn't pass a cleaner, that'd be different story.

    The stem is a huge factor for me. I clench so it has to be comfortable. Both acrylic and rubber work fine for me provided the bit is well shaped and gives me something to bite on to.

    Mike
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  18. cigrmaster

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    Mike, you can have your bents re drilled to take a pipe cleaner. Zack( a member here) just re drilled my bent Willmer and the difference is amazing. One of my biggest pet peeves is a pipe that will not pass a fluffy cleaner with ease. Even if it smokes fine, the mere fact it does not pass a cleaner throws me into a homicidal rage.

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