No More Burning Tires

michaelmirza · Dec 11, 2016

I have decided that I will never buy a pipe with a vulcanite, ebonite, or cumberland stem again. I've had one too many of my pipes with the aforementioned stem materials start to taste like burning rubber from oxidization after just a few smokes. Even after I do the recommended soak and scrub measures, the taste returns surely. It's just not worth the hassle for me, so from here on if the stem isn't acrylic or horn, I'll pass. I'm not a clencher, so the hardness of the latter materials doesn't bother me. Plus, anything that can help narrow down which pipes I should buy or not is a good thing! I might even look into replacing the vulcanite stems that are still in my inventory, through my local pipe repair guy. Anybody else taken a similar stance?

cynicismandsugar · Dec 11, 2016

I hear you, sir! I've debated forgoing vulcanite in the future, but then I remember that some of my favorite brands, such as Peterson's Mark Twain collection, only come in the aforementioned material.
Eh, whatcha gonna do? Yes, I prefer acrylic, and seek it out more often than not, but I can't bring myself to boycott rubber all together... yet.

codecreatively · Dec 11, 2016

It must be a body chemistry thing. To rule that out, what method are you using to clean your stems? And are they completely black? Lay out your steps and let's see if there's anything we can do to help.

drwatson · Dec 11, 2016

WELCOME TO THE DARKSIDE! We have more fun, cause we don't waste time cleaning rubber. :twisted:

michaelmirza · Dec 11, 2016

Code, I use a few pipe cleaners after every smoke, and also wipe moisturize away throughout each smoke. As needed I scrub my stems down with a tube of Brebbia stem cleaner, and if it's really bad I'll use OxiClean. But that's all besides the point. Even if there is something else I could be doing to clean my stems better, I shouldn't have to in the first place. If different, lower-maintenance stem options weren't available, I'd change my attitude accordingly. But thankfully I'm not forced into such a predicament!

bigbee · Dec 11, 2016

Since 6 months I rub my stems with chapstick after each smoke after a post on this forums. A Small effort after each smoke with remarkable results

Chasing Embers · Dec 11, 2016

I put a drop of Obsidian oil on mine, and after nearly 30 years, the oldest pipes in my collection that were purchased new, have never shown or tasted of oxidation. I do prefer ebonite/vulcanite over other materials.

jndyer · Dec 11, 2016

I get that one would like to cut down on the amount of pipe maintenance; however, I do have to say that the chapstick trick has done wonders for the few pipes I own that have a rubber stem.
Also, the internet has ruined me because the above posts that mention rubbing down a stem and rubber takes my brain to a very unpipe place. 8O

Chasing Embers · Dec 11, 2016

I look at it like breaking down and cleaning a gun. Very meditative.

bigpond · Dec 11, 2016

I've only had this problem once and it was down to the poor quality of a preformed stem. I returned the pipe and had SPC check several of the other pipes from the same maker, all of which wreaked of burning rubber. I've sworn off preformed vulcanite stems (though I will say my Pete never had this problem).
I haven't found this to be an issue at all on higher grade vulcanite rod stock. All I do is apply lip balm before a smoke and I'm good to go. I do gently wipe down a stem with a fleece cloth after smoking. If I'm smoking outside in daylight, I'll try to apply a little lip balm directly to the stem and gently rub it in, ala sunscreen.
There was a time not too long ago I was pretty agnostic toward stem material, but I find I prefer vulcanite by a good measure now. That said, I think Cavicchi makes the most comfortable acrylic stems and seems to use a really good quality stock as there is a little give to them.

pagan · Dec 11, 2016

I've never had any problems like this, maby a body chemistry thing, to each his own

bigpond · Dec 11, 2016

Unless the OP is smoking vulcanite, I'm not sure I'm able to connect the dots to "body chemistry". Anyone have an insight? Vulcanite seems to contain somewhere from 25-80% sulphur and linseed in addition to rubber.

michaelmirza · Dec 11, 2016

I guess the way it could be a body chemistry thing is that different people have different levels of acidity in their saliva. Maybe I've got a really acidic mouth. :twisted:

cosmicfolklore · Dec 11, 2016

Yeh, my vulcanite and Cumberland stay very nice. My teeth are just too sensitive for acrylic though. Sometimes the actual part that makes contact with my lips looses its polish, but I just rub them down after each smoke. I'm sort of a nerd that way. I wash my bike after each ride, clean my plate after dinner, clean my blade after whittling, wipe my pipe down after smoking... but to each their own.

ashdigger · Dec 11, 2016

I don't think all vulcanite is created equal. I've only had two pipes that tasted like a "tire fire". One was an old french pipe from around WW1 and the other was a modern Millville. Neither pipe would succumb to taming.
I much prefer vulcanite, but I also enjoy older pipes that have amber and it's early alternatives.

stvalentine · Dec 11, 2016

All the cleaning and rubbing is useless if you don´t seal the surface of the vulcanite afterwrds. The material has an "open" surface (thats why the sulphur comes out) and you need to seal it by applying some carnauba wax for instance. The wax has no taste whatsoever and keeps the rubber from oyidizing again.

mso489 · Dec 11, 2016

I have decades-old vulcanite pipe stems with no flavor problem. I've never even tasted a hint of it. Interesting. I do like acrylic for upkeep, but I don't reject vulcanite.

No More Burning Tires

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Site Sponsors

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Part of the Furniture Now

Part of the Furniture Now

Can't Leave

Lifer

Part of the Furniture Now

Might Stick Around

Captain of the Black Frigate

Lifer

Captain of the Black Frigate

Lifer

Lifer

Lifer

Part of the Furniture Now

Lifer

Lifer

Part of the Furniture Now

Lifer