New York Shop Fined $60,000 For Selling Gun-Shaped Lighter

brian64

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Just another day in the Land of The Free: NY Shop Fined $60,000 For Selling Gun-Shaped Lighter.
Wow. How could anyone operate a business and survive with this kind of totalitarian lunacy going on.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/times-square-camera-shop-sues-city-gun-lighters-article-1.1332761

 

drwatson

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Aug 3, 2010

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Thats crazy, who would bring a lighter to a gun fight.

 

simnettpratt

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Nov 21, 2011

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'That could be mistaken for actual weapons'. Like the girl detained by the TSA for having an embroidered sixgun on her purse.

 

brian64

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Jan 31, 2011

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Well the seller broke the law, right?

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Apparently so. But traditionally, in addition to constitutional restraints, laws are supposed to reflect a societal standard of reasonableness. If a $60K fine for selling a novelty lighter is now considered reasonable, this society is insane, IMO.

 

cigrmaster

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May 26, 2012

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That is an insane fine even if the guy broke the law. Only NY city would try and rob someone like that.

 

crazypipe

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Sep 23, 2012

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Seems to me everything has gone nuts. ::

 

igloo

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• May 3, 2013

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And people wonder why the terrorists bombed NYC first . :crazy:

 

uberam3rica

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Sep 7, 2011

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• May 3, 2013

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I see gun shaped lighters at gas stations all the time.

 

judcole

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Sep 14, 2011

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It will be interesting to see what the court says. It seems to me that, since the shop showed good faith by returning the lighters when DCA issued the violation, that they showed be treated much more leniently.

 

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plateauguy

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Mar 19, 2013

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The fine people of NY voted for this guy - now they get to live with him and his ideas. Just hope he doesn't decide to run for something bigger, it's insane enough.

 

zonomo

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Nov 24, 2012

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I want one....

 

zonomo

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The fine people of NY voted for this guy - now they get to live with him and his ideas. Just hope he doesn't decide to run for something bigger, it's insane enough.

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numbersix

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Seems to me everything has gone nuts.

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No matter what, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. It's akin to slicing off a hand for the theft of a piece of bread.

 

judcole

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I can see having restrictions on objects that look like guns, not because guns are evil or anything, but because of difficulties that can result. I remember an incident here in Detroit a few years back when a cop thought a kid was trying to pull a gun on him. He shot and killed the kid, when the kid did not have a gun at all, but had something(don't remember what) that made the cop think he had a gun.
This is just an example of over-zealousness on the part of DCA. IMO, you tell the folks they got something illegal. If they take it off their shelves, all is well.

 

igloo

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Let me get this right . Police officer says freeze drop your weapon and put your hands up ,all a person has to do is comply and he gets to live . This rule has worked very well for a long time . I for one am tired of hearing about so called innocent youths because the real story never hits the press until the real innocent persons life is destroyed .Try reading A Piece of Wood" by Ray Bradbury . A 60,000.00 fine for a cigarette lighter shaped like a gun is insane and remember right after they take your guns you get to ride a train and take shower . :crazy:

 

tslex

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Jun 23, 2011

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Interesting. Bloomie and Kelly were my the subject of my blog today. Well, not THEM exactly but . . .
Well, you can read it here: Suburban Sheepdog: Obstructing Justice

 

brian64

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Interesting. Bloomie and Kelly were my the subject of my blog today. Well, not THEM exactly but . . .
Well, you can read it here: Suburban Sheepdog: Obstructing Justice

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Great blog post tslex...very well written. I believe the founders also understood that Empire is as antithetical to a Constitutional Republic as Democracy is. Unfortunately the Rubicon here was crossed a long time ago, imo.