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  1. slownumbers39

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    I have a question regarding an estate pipe that I just purchased a couple days ago. The seller was packing it up to send to me and he says that he dropped it and broke the tenon. He can replace the tenon or refund my money, it's my choice. I don't need this pipe to be all original, I just want it to smoke well and look decent, but I am not sure if replacing the tenon is a big deal or if that could possibly cause issues with the quality of smoking it down the road. I thought that I would seed guidance from forum members on this matter. Should I be concerned and get my money back or is a replaced tenon not a problem? Your thoughts.

    Seller's note: "....just letting you know that in the process of packing your pipe I accidentally dropped the pipe and broke the tenon. I can replace the tenon at no charge or refund your money. Just let me know."

    I am trying to put a picture of the pipe below, hopefully it works, newbie at work, lol.

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    Replaced by who?

    I've seen pipes totally destroyed by a replacement, but if you have a qualified repairer, it should be fine.

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    If you like the pipe have it fixed, Floyd Norwood fixes my stems, cuts some xtra, sometimes I have him make a longer one, cheap fix and is stronger IMHO the old cajun

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    If I were you, depending on the price you paid, I would have him refund you the amount of money a reputable repair person would charge and send you the broken pipe. If he is a reputable seller in the pipe community and is able to do a good job repairing the tenon I don't see it affecting your pipe, it might even be better in the long run. A delron tenon glued into place by a good repairman would be very strong.

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    I would be very cautious on who replaces the tenon. I think tenon work should be done by an experienced guy; it's not a quick fix job. Ask more questions about how he will do it before agreeing.

    "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." -Mark Twain-
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    I don't actually have the pipe in my physical possession yet, it was being packaged to send to me when it was dropped and the tenon broken. Looking at his ebay profile, seems he has been a pipe maker for a number of years, so I think he himself would do the repair. I quite like the looks of the pipe, it looks nice, so I do kinda want it, lol. I don't want to come out and say who he is as that might seem as a commercial endorsement or something and I think that is against forum rules? Here is a link to his About Me Page page. Seems to me that he likely knows what he is doing, but again I am new here so I leave it to the experts. I assume some of you may know of him.

    MODS, I did not intend to break forum rules by posting the link, so if it does violate any rules, I apologize and feel free to modify or delete as needed.

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    I like assaad's answer. I'd call a reputable repairman and ask how much he would charge to fix it. Then ask the seller if if would refund you that amount. That's if you decide to keep it.

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    If he made the pipe in the first place that changes everything. Let him fix it he should be the most capable of fixing his own product and a repaired tenon won't be a hindrance at all!

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    Hey mate, let him fix the tenon, when it gets to you, if you are not satisfied, you can always send it back for a refund. (ask the seller first if he has a return policy, most sellers on e-bay do)

    If at first you don't succeed, have another bowl.
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    Is this the pipe ?

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    Is this the pipe ?

    Yes, that is exactly the one. I have to read how to post a picture on here, mine was not very good at all.

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    Those pics the seller posted are tiny when saved to the hard drive. I linked to his URL from the listing ( not the eBay one).

    That is a nice pipe. I'd have him fix the tenon since he's a pipe maker. To duplicate the stem you'd put too much money in it IMO

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    Thanks for all the great advice. Contacted the seller and he has repsired the tenon, says it looks good and it is in the mail to me. He said to give it a try and if it is not to my liking, he will refund my money. Waiting with anticipation.

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    Good luck, sounds like a stand up guy...

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    Can't beat an offer like that.....a real guarantee.

    "If you're going to be dumb, you had better be tough"
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    I have never gotten any of his pipes. But he has a lot of sales so he seems to know what he is doing. Have him fix his work. Let us know how it turns out.

    If you can't pack it, light it, and smoke it then why do it. It's a dieing art that must be rekindled in all of us as fortold by our forefathers.

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    I would pass on this pipe.

    Keep your stick on the ice!....Barry....
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    Keep us posted on how this turns out.

    " I'm talking about the kind of sound you can feel. When it comes to great stereo you can't beat big speakers, I'm talking about big speakers with big woofers."
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    Sounds like an honest guy to me.

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    Ok, got the pipe today and it looks pretty decent to me.

    I will post a couple pics of the pipe shortly and try a bowl or two and see how it works and advise.

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    Hope it works out for you, sounds like a real honest vendor/carver so far!

    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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    Sounds like a pretty cool guy i hope it smokes good for you.

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    My buddy just did this repair on a broken tenon, for a wonderful Pete 999. Very neat, that screw-in/Glue delrin tenon replacement.

    http://rebornpipes.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/a-new-tenon-on-an-old-stem-and-a-petersons-k-briar-999-is-back-in-action/

    I've watched a few of this sellers offerings and he seems like a well-meaning hobbyist selling his own pipe collection. I hope it works out for you. That is a lovely shape!

    Al

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    Psssttt... Al.... That's an 80s square shank

    999 would be round

    But nice job altogether ! I may need your buddy's name at some time. I've got a box of estates and one of them has a crack in the tenon. I'll let you know when I get to it

    "The fact is, squire, the moment a man takes to a pipe, he becomes a philosopher. It's the poor man's friend; it calms the mind, soothes the temper, and makes a man patient under difficulties. It has made more good men, good husbands, kind masters, indulgent fathers, than any other blessed thing on this universal earth."
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    Psssttt... Al.... That's an 80s [;-)] square shank

    999 would be round

    I was referencing the Pete 999 in my friends blog, which is most definitely a 999.

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    Whoops... I thought the pics here were the ones from the blog... guess I should have checked the link... my apologies

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    No worries, I love the 999 shape (and the shape of this one!). Be sure to check out that little beauty in the blog, and the neat repair. Hopefully slownumber has a good outcome.

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    I recently got the pipe in the mail. Took it out of the box, put the two pieces together and they fit well. Long story short, pipe fits together nicely, when assembled you can not tell it is a repair and it smokes like a dream. I really like smoking this pipe and it holds well. Glad I got the repair done and the pipe sent to me. Thanks for the advice peoples.

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