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  1. lyle37

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    Just thought I would see what you all preferred, matches or a lighter. I have always preferred matches myself...

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  2. mackeson

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    I like a simple Bic lighter. Sometimes one of my Zippos, but mostly the Bic

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    Definitely matches whenever possible. When in the car, I use a Corona Old Boy or a Zippo pipe lighter. Outside, a Zippo

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    Depends on what and where I'm smoking, but matches, zippo's and butane pipe lighters, like the Old Boy, see service as does the occasional hemp wick.

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    It usually comes down to what is a handy at the time so either macthes or one of my Zippos.

    "The value of tobacco is best understood when it is the last you possess, and there is no chance of getting more."
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    I'm an outside smoker. Matches are a no go for me most days. I had a cheap Z-Pipe Butane lighter insert but it stopped giving me a flame so now I use a Peterson pipe lighter. Love it.

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    Matches most of the time, Zippo when it it windy.

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    In a perfect world where I smoked inside my own personal Diogenes club, it would be wooden matches. For practical reasons, I have always used a Bic lighter.

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    I go through periods where I use only my zippo with a pipe insert. And times where I use only matches. A good ole bic makes its way in there sometimes too. All work great

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    If I'm indoors, matches.
    Outdoors, Kiribi Kabuto... unless it's windy, in which case I use the trusty zippo with pipe insert.

    Tobacco's a help because it clears the mind
    But like all your friends it is vilified
    They always say, the right amount's fine
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    When inside, I'll usually go for the matches. But I'll use my pipe zippo as well. When outside, it's always the zippo.

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    If it is windy, I use Zippo.
    If it is not, I use matches.

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    Either. Both.
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    I only use a lighter. And not just anything: a Bic lighter.

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    Start with matches for the charing light and relights when the bowl is more than half full and I can get it to light with the match held above the bowl. After that it's a Zippo pipe lighter. It seems faster and safer for the rim of the bowl to suck down the flame from the Zippo pipe lighter rather than trying to get a burning match to work when the bowl is low, especially if it's a deep bowl. I probably have a bad match technique.

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    I like matches for their softer flame, their tradition, their sound and look, and the ritual involved. I have a couple of lighters, but I haven't used them enough to become adept; I'd hate to burn up my brims learning to use them, but I like matches too well anyway.

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    Hmmm...I always assumed that wood burns hotter than lighter fluid (don't know about Butane). I assumed that a wooden match is more likely to burn the rim, as the flame gets wider as the match burns, whereas the Zippo pipe lighter has a relatively narrow flame that is easy to center over the bowl and away from the rim. I like matches when the pipe is full enough to hold the match about 1/2" above the bowl, but when relighting a low bowl the match gets too close to the rim. I probably don't have the correct technique, though, as I know that you and many other people feel lighters are more likely to char a rim.

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    Never used a match yet to light my pipe, I always use angled gas lighters. Cheap and dependable for about two months then the 'clicker' refuses to click anymore so I have plenty at hand.

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    I used only matches for a year, nothing else. Then I started smoking while driving, so I had to switch to Bic. And you can totally feel the difference between the matches and the lighters after using only matches for a year. Soft flame lighters have more combustion temperature than matches for sure and they alter the taste. I use matches 90% of the time.

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    Usually matches as they are always around the house.
    Cheap chuck away lighter when away from the house.

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    I only use a DuPont lighter that's dipped in holy water and blessed by a priest... this way I won't get cancer.

    Nate @ Moody AL
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    Matches at home, Bic in the car.

    I love the tradition of matches, but not in the car. Burned too many seats and put holes in pants with matches and tobacco jumping out of a too-full bowl.


    The past is never dead. It's not even past--Requiem for a Nun
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    Lately I'm using a old Dunhill military lighter I was gifted by Dave.

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    You might be surprised at the number of post about this in the archives. I use both Bic & Zippo.

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    Same old tired answer for the same old tired question. Bics, Zippos, Peterson, matches, embers, whatever is handy.

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    Matches to start off, then switch to a lighter.

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    Hypergolic Combustion for all of my nose warmers.

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    I'm partial to fire. I don't care if it comes from a 99 cent lighter, or a match. That said I think matches are a giant pain in the ass and waste of time.

    There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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    Incidentally, matches can be used outdoors and even in a fairly strong wind, but it takes some learning. You have to use wind breaks (trees, buildings, cars, etc.) and your hands to further shelter the match, and you have to get the match down into the pipe bowl as soon as it flairs. To old time smokers, this was a standard skill.

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    Back to the wind or breeze, hold the match parallel to the palm. When you strike it your fingers will naturally curl and the back of your hand will form a further protection. After the initial flare, apply the flame, holding the bowl with the last two fingers and thumb of your other hand, further shielding from the breeze with the remaining fingers. Sounds complicated, tain't, and soon becomes second nature. But, with a good Zippo in your pocket it's not a necessary talent. Well, until you find yourself with an empty lighter.

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    Matches smell like the souls burning in Hell.

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    Torch to wick to bowl. Every time.

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    Totally agree with MSO and Warren. And there is this one:

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    Matches for charring then Bics after the 2nd relight. When indoors, Bics all the way, wife not too keen on the matches' room note.

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    I'd prefer matches (wood ones you can strike anywhere), but as I only smoke outdoors anymore, they're more frustration and mess than they're worth. I use a Zippo except when I travel by plane. Then I buy a disposible butane when I land. They're a PITA outdoors but at least they work one-handed, can be re-lit quickly again and again, and don't make it look like a beaver set up housekeeping around your shoes.

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    I prefer matches as I can feel the difference in taste when using butane as it is burning hotter. However practically for the second half of the bowl I use butane lighter as with matches I have the problem of burning the rim and my fingers when going deep in the bowl with the matches. How can successfully be used matches deep in the bowl without undergoing these problems?

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    Last time this came up I said 'matches only, forever' or something to that effect. Now I have almost no indoor smoking and I am hypocritically enjoying the convenience of a bic lighter for almost every bowl. I cannot tell a difference in taste.

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    I have the problem of burning the rim and my fingers when going deep in the bowl with the matches. How can successfully be used matches deep in the bowl without undergoing these problems?

    Keep the flame above the pipe not down into it, and suck harder.

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    Shutterbug, it took a while to figure that out. Great advice.

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    I prefer wood matches. I miss the Ohio Blue Tip Strike-Anywhere matches you could get a couple decades ago. Outdoors, though, a couple Zippos with pipe inserts get their share of action.

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    I'm ordering a Thunderbird zippo pipe insert. As of now its matches but mostly a bic. I find it a bit hard on the fingertips when re-lighting deep down the bowl.

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    For most of my pipe smoking career it was either matches or a Djeep lighter but this past summer I've picked up a Kiribi lighter. I'm loving that lighter. Works great and lasts weeks on a refill.

    "These are ghosts that are more at home in a girdle-filled drawer than one of my pipes." Quote by Neil Archer Roan on lakeland ghosts
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    99.9% matches inside, IM Corona Old Boy when without matches.

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    I prefer matches, but I almost always use a pipe thrashing bic lighter.

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    Virtually always use matches, in particular Swan Vestas as they're the only matches I've found in the UK that you can light off any surface. It's surprising how quickly you learn to use matches in the wind.

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    Both, but mostly a BIC lighter. And that started because when fly fishing, matches not only require 2 hands, but also don't work so well when my hands are damp or when the wind is blowing

    “I believe that many who find that "nothing happens" when they sit down, or kneel down, to a book of devotion, would find that the heart sings unbidden while they are working their way through a tough bit of theology with a pipe in their teeth and a pencil in their hand.”-C.S. Lewis
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    I've been revisiting using more matches, and it is a nice burn, and to each his own, but why so many BICS when a Zippo pipe lighter is cheap, fluid is cheap and a can will last a long time, even when topping off the lighter every day or two, you don't have to keep throwing them away and buying new ones, and they look cool and sound cool and are nice little devices that last for years?

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    Lighter, with the relights I often have tree huggers would hunt me down if I used matches.

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    interesting, i like matches, they are cheap and comes in handy when i can't find my bic, my dad used to tell me that when he was growing up, there were some native indians called pipil, that used to use 2 stones to light up their tobacco, has anyone ever heard of this?

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    Tell them they're made of recycled paper, or diseased or dead trees....

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    interesting, i like matches, they are cheap and comes in handy when i can't find my bic, my dad used to tell me that when he was growing up, there were some native indians called pipil, that used to use 2 stones to light up their tobacco, has anyone ever heard of this?

    Certainly well before matches one method of starting a fire was sparking via two stones. But direct lighting of tobacco- the stuff would have to be very dry.

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    "But direct lighting of tobacco- the stuff would have to be very dry."

    Plus you would likely die of boredom well before your pipe got lit.

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    Matches almost all the time. Old Boy sometimes when traveling, only in the very most desperate of times a BIC lighter, I hate the butane taste they have.

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    I unapologetically use a bic 90 percent of the time. It's handy.

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    Butane taste? Never have had that sensation. Is it possible you're holding the flame quite close to the tobacco and not using the superheated air off the tip of the flame?

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    Bic

    "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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    I love the fact that if we ask this question 100 times a year, people will always contribute to it, without complaint. It's like a point of pride, "which team are you for?" lighter or matches? Roll Matches Roll!

    Me? I'm into the whole ritual of smoking my pipe, so I just await thunderstorms and walk out to where trees have been struck by lightening and use burned bark to ignite my pipes. Natural fire is way better than those chemical ones.

    Michael
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    I like rigging a thin copper wire to a kite, with the end grounded in my pipe bowl, and wait for a good bunch of lightning. Call me Ben! I don't have a source for silk thread as he's reputed to have used, so fishing filament will have to do.

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    I have used everything from penny matches to hundred dollar lighters over the years.Hell I've even used cannon fuse and lamp wicks before. A Bic is really my got to light though.

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