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    In the Pipe Tobacco Discussion Forum, while talking about the classifications (and naming) of tobacco, one of the responses from Les Sechler mentioned martinis.

    That thread is here:
    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/questions-re-classification-of-tobacco/page/3

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    Completely true in every respect, however, over the years definitions of things change. For instance, when I was a bartender I used to get lot of orders for martinis. About one third of the time they came back when the drinker expected vodka to be the booze used in making the drink. After explaining perhaps 20 or 30 times that a martini was a gin drink I just gave in to the reality that quite often the martinis of today are in fact made with vodka. There after I asked the customer what they wanted and about 30% of the time they wanted vodka. This is especially true in California. In any case, calling a blend a latakia blend is a great way to be understood better, and a habit that many of us should try to cultivate. How easy it is for us to fall into the habits that are not precise.

    Here's my response:
    Martinis are my favorite drink and it is true that the gin martini is the original real martini. These days they call anything a martini that is poured into a martini glass. How about a "chocolate martini" or an "espresso martini".

    Even though the vodka martini is not the true original, I will still accept it and respect it after all the new totally bullshit non-martinis hit the bars. The next thing you know there will be a bubble gum martini.

    James Bond drinks vodka martinis, "shaken, not stirred".

    Another thing I learned if you want to be traditional with martinis is about the garnish.

    Gin Martini = Olive
    Vodka Martini - Twist (Lemon)

    I am on my way out to dinner now and I am going to have a Bombay Sapphire Martini, very dry, up, with olives.

    That's the correct way to order it too.

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    Actually, I may have more than one. It's nice to live in downtown where you can walk everywhere! Uh ... or stumble.

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    Kevin,
    This string was first posted 3 or 4 months before I became a member.
    I am glad to see that I'm not the only martini purist when it comes to a proper martini.
    I have never tended bar and, I only have about 10 drinks in my repertoire.
    I was curious about your martini "shaking" technique. I will shake the shaker (sorry couldn't fabricate a better phrase) about twice a second for 15 seconds, then very vigorously for about 5 seconds just prior to straining the nearly completed martini into a frozen martini glass. I understand that, aside from the quality of the gin the temperature of the martini is the most crucial of factors for creating a "mean martini".
    Do you agree?
    Oh yeah... I have heard that martinis should be served only with an odd number of olives. (Harumph!) I prefer my martinis with 3 olives and so dry there is dust on them, but sometimes I want it dirty.

    Dry martini:

    When asked what one thing she would like to have if stranded on a desert island. Julia Child responded; "A refrigerator, so I can make ice for my martini shaker".:

    Dirty Martini:

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    Despite my avatar, I'm not much of a martini guy.

    I love a swig of vodka followed by a bite of dill pickle.

    I plan to try a swig of vodka followed by a cucumber slice with a light salting. For some reason it sounds delicious.

    A double shot of bourbon with a small nip of water for a chase is good sometimes too.

    As far as mixed drinks, a bloody mary is about all I can do.

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    Gin and tonic for me.

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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    pstlpkr I was curious about your martini "shaking" technique.

    I shake the shit out of it until the shaker is so cold it hurts.

    Not everyone agrees with this. Some old fashioned people say you will "bruise the gin". I have books on this stuff. Yes, it gets a little cloudy, but clears up in 30 seconds. The better the quality of the gin, the less cloudy a vigorous shaking will make it and the faster it will clear up.

    Three olives when I order out. One olive when I make at home.

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    I have always like very, very dry Tangueray martinis, with one fat olive. I have read that martinis were almost always made with gin until the Bond movies came out.

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    I like Tangueray, but it is my second choice.

    1. Bombay Sapphire
    2. Tanqueray Ten or regular Tanqueray
    3. Hendrick's Gin (made with cucumbers, and great with Japanese food / Sushi)

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    "James Bond drank vodka martini's, shaken, not stirred." He also added a dash of pepper to settle the oils.

    I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane.
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    I am a sushi junky. One good thing about LA is great sushi. If you come to LA, we will go on sushi safari.

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    My Dad always said the only mixed drink for him was Wild Turkey 101 and an ice cube.

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    "To provoke, or sustain, a reverie in a bar, you have to drink English gin, especially in the form of a martini. To be frank, given the primordial role played in my life by the dry martini, I really think I ought to give it at least a page. Like all cocktails, the martini, composed essentially of gin and a few drops of Noilly Prat, seems to have been an American invention. Connoisseurs who like their martinis very dry suggest simply allowing a ray of sunlight to shine through a bottle of Noilly Prat before it hits the bottle of gin. At a certain period in America it was said that the making of a dry martini should resemble the Immaculate Conception, for, as Saint Thomas Aquinas once noted, the generative powers of the Holy Ghost pierced the virgin’s hymen 'like a ray of sunlight through a window – leaving it unbroken.'"

    Luis Bunuel, Movie Director (one of cinema's greatest), Martini Connoisseur. You can see his recipe for the perfect Martini at the link; apparently the temperature of the ice is very important. He even snuck his martini recipe into one of his great masterpieces, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie.

    Personally, for mixed drinks I prefer a Manhattan with three cherries. Though the best Martini I ever had was a lychee martini -- three of them, in fact, during a very nice lunch break that ruined the rest of the workday.

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    My favorite martini lines:

    Martinis... they're not just for breakfast anymore.

    I had to give up running... my martini kept sloshing out of the glass.

    "If it wasn't for the olives in martinis, I'd starve to death." Milton Berle

    Winston Churchill's martini recipe was: pour gin into shaker add ice, point a bottle of vermouth toward France, shake, pour, and drink. Repeat as necessary.

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    I like to add just a drop of dry vermouth, literally a drop like you would get out of an eye dropper.

    My trick is to pour it into the cap of the vermouth bottle, and then transfer the drop from the cap into the shaker.

    Technically, without that it is chilled gin. With it, you have a martini.

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    Martinis... they're not just for breakfast anymore.

    LOL! That's a great line.

    A fellow came into a bar and ordered a martini. Before drinking it, he removed the olive and carefully put it into a glass jar. Then he ordered another martini and did the same thing. After an hour, when he was full of martinis and the jar was full of olives, he staggered out.

    "Well," said a customer, "I never saw anything as peculiar as that!"

    "What's so peculiar about it?" the bartender said. "His wife sent him out for a jar of olives."

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    Sinister, That's outstanding!
    It's been a long time since I heard that joke.
    I love it!

    Kevin,
    That is my recipe precisely.
    A Piper and Martini devote'.
    One sage individual.

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    Vodka any brand ,extra dry vermouth and at least 3 olives stuffed with blue cheese .

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    Vodka any brand ,extra dry vermouth and at least 3 olives stuffed with blue cheese .

    That sounds really good with the blue cheese. Something I'll definitely need to try!

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    One of our local Mexican restaurants (upon) request will serve a Gordon's martini very dry with a roasted Habanero pepper instead of an olive. It's tastes great, but is very very very hot.

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    My two cents are as follows... It was the first "leagl" bar drink that I had... The guys that I worked with took me to the bar when I tured 19... A Gin Martini was ordered and I was told that I "couldn't have anyting else until it was gone..." I sat there for about 4 hours before I SLAMMED it... When I was done it tasted like a "CAT" had shit in my mouth... Gin makes me mean... I stay away...

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    OK, here I go going against the grain.

    I don't like martini's very much. I had a bad experience with gin in my younger (late teenage) years that still haunts me to this day.

    The first and only time that I had ever tried a martini was with Kevin when we were at the Richmond Pipe Show last year. I took one sip and had flashbacks and couldn't finish it.

    I gave it to Kevin and ordered a glass of red wine.

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    More for us...Eh Kevin?

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    More for us...Eh Kevin?

    I happily accepted Bob's martini.

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    You can have mine too... If I must...

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    I know this is an old thread - but I do love a good martini. For my own martini, I prefer gin, and of the gin - probably my top 3: Bombay Sapphire, Gordon's (Yes, Gordon's), and Hendrick's (I'm surprised Kevin knows of it, not many do). I don't consider a vodka and vermouth a martini, it should just be called what it is, vodka and vermouth. Besides, if anybody gives you crap about drinking gin, tell them it's the original vodka, because it practically is - minus what it is fermented with, as vodka is usually potatoes or something while gin is juniper berries (which is what adorns the Gordon's bottle).

    As far as shaking goes - I roll my shaker, I like mine 4 parts gin, 1 part vermouth - it rounds off the bite of gin and does not become too sweet. The reason you don't want to over ice it by shaking is because gin itself is an aromatic, if it's too cold, it simply does not taste like gin anymore. This is probably why James Bond drinks a vodka martini, as the taste of gin is something to be acquired. While we're on James Bond, have you ever had a Vesper? I tried to recreate my own, but Lillet Blanc is no longer produced and I didn't feel like buying any powdered quinine. It is however, a tasty drink if you have the alcohols to make it: 2 parts Gordon's, 1 part vodka (try using a 100 proof vodka, like Stolichnaya 100 - because it's probably the proof that James Bond during his times), 1 part Lillet, and a lemon peel twist.

    Oh, and before I forget, another favorite of mine is the Manhattan, but I prefer it with Maker's Mark. It is basically a martini, but instead with whiskey and sweet vermouth (red vermouth, as opposed to the dry white vermouth) with a dash of bitters and a cherry. It is good stuff.

    Happy drinking.

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    I like a Manhattan too onizuka.

    I have made Vespers before, but I didn't know Lillet Blanc is no longer produced. I thought I had seen it on the shelves recently, but maybe it is old stock.

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    Haha, I typed it wrong and, I meant to say: 3 parts Gordon's. Also, it's Kina Lillet that's no longer produced, I went to my fridge and saw I still had my bottle of Lillet Blanc. I wish I could edit my old post! Hahahaha.

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    Add another Manhattan drinker to the list, please!

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    You guys....now I have to make a drink, and it's 9:30am here in Canada !!

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    I just had a hard boil egg.I enjoyed that Martini!

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    Joe.... You have to remember....

    "Martinis aren't just for breakfast any more."

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    For those of you that like it extra dry, try spritzing the glass with a small spray bottle or pour a cap full into the glass, roll the alcohol in the glass to coat it, then pour it out. Or you can also try pouring ice into a shaker, add the vermouth and stir it up a bit, pour out the vermouth and then add your gin of choice.

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    I had to explain to a bartender what a perfect martini was. he thought i was just being particular and wanted my drink made with high quality booze. when i told him what a perfect martini was as opposed to a sweet or dry martini, he made it for free.

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    Do they make RUM martinis?

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    Onizuka,
    In and outs just don't taste right to me.
    For my taste it's shaken, never stirred.
    I suppose it's the temperature difference between a shaken martini and a stirred one.

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    I think they do - I just saw a recipe for Beachcomber's Gold:
    1 part rum, 1/2 part sweet vermouth, 1/2 part dry vermouth.

    Sounds like the perfect martini spacecowboy mentioned, but instead of gin, it's rum.

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    Well, as a Plymothian there is only ONE Gin and that is Plymouth Gin. And as for your bad experiences in Europe Kev, the Martini's you had were probably the fortified vermouth's whose brand name is Martini (Rossi). They have 2 sort's Dry and Sweet. Both are not very nice unless you mix them with something like Gin or Vodka and even then I'd steer well clear of them. The only people who drink Martini over here in the UK are the ladies who tend to drink it with Lemonade.

    I'm not a great fan of the 'proper' Martini's, although I have given them a good testing over the years. You only get a proper one over in the States though, unless you buy the proper Vermouth and make it at home. I prefer my Martini's to be so dry, that there is no Vermouth in it at all! I do prefer a proper Royal Navy 'Pink Gin' though, of which I make a mean one. And like a Martini, there is a correct way to make it.

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    I prefer... no martini. Ick. I'll take my Limited Reserve (18 year old) Jameson on the rocks, thanks.

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    Onesh ossifer I only had te martoonies

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    I'm with Kevin and the rest of you delightful purists. I don't drink martinis often, but when I want one I will settle for nothing less than classic and perfect. The martini for me is much like the pipe is for me. It's as much an experience as it is a drink. For me its Bombay Sapphire, 2 drops of dry vermouth and 3 olives. I use 2 drops of dry vermouth and 3 olives due to the size of my preferred martini glass. Like I said, it's not just a drink, it's an experience.

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    i don't think there is anything wrong with vodka and olive; however, i have been educated and will now try the gin martini. it is definately a misconception these days.

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    Wihile I do enjoy an occasional dry martini, I usually drink Tanqurey Rangpur and tonic.

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    Had two tonight. Both were perfect.

    Onesh ossifer I only had te martoonies

    I love that UnclearThurs.

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    I love gin martinis and enjoy that libation quite often.... dry and with blue cheese stuffed olives... I also like a Gibson which is the same drink but with cocktail onions..

    But what I really like is a Rob Roy.... which is a scotch Manhattan...I prefer Johnny Walker Black... but in truth any scotch will do!

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    My favorite mixed drink isn't a martini. It's A decent scotch with an ice cube.

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    My favorite is a 10-12 year old tasty bourbon.

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    Greetings,

    I know this thread is about Martinis, but I just can't do Gin. And Vodka, to me, is just "industrial" booze. No aging in wood, just double or triple distilled alcohol. I understand many will disagree.

    My favorite is the Old Fashioned. Unfortunately, most bartenders don't have a clue how to make a "proper" Old Fashioned. They always muddle the cherry and orange in the bottom of the glass, resulting in a fruity slush. Not good. The fruit should always be a garnish, added after the drink is made. I've only found one bartender that made it right, at The Stockyards restaurant in Phoenix. If you visit Phoenix, definitely have dinner and drink at The Stockyards. Been there since 1947. The steaks are excellent.

    Here's a proper Old Fashioned:
    Sugar cube
    2-3 dashes of bitters
    Splash of club soda to dissolve the sugar cube
    Muddle
    Ice
    2 ozs. RYE Whiskey. Bourbon will work, but rye is better.
    Stir
    Top off with club soda
    Add cherry and an orange wedge
    Done!

    So simple, but alas, so hard to find.

    Cheers.

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    Hey CA,
    I never begrudge a man his favorite drink. To each their own. I'm certainly no "Martini Snob". While I love a perfect Martini, I also love a good smoldering, tongue-searing, dark brown, Bloody Mary ("for breakfast" once in a while).
    However:
    I'm like my old man. When it comes to "Mixed" Drinks I think one should be limited to a good Scotch, Bourbon or Whiskey, and an ice cube. But, I prefer "neat".

    However; a Martini is a cocktail, and should (IMO) only be served straight up or "Up".

    Shhhh! Don't tell anyone but I do appreciate a Scotch and Soda once in a while.

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    Arise, Ancient Thread and heed to my bidding! Buahahaha!

    I like my Martinis thus:

    Bombay Sapphire
    A capful of dry Vermouth (The actual Martini Rossi Brand)
    1 tsp of the olive juice

    Shaken until you can't feel your fingers because of the cold

    Strained into a Martini glass with 3 Garlic Stuffed Olives.

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    Has anyone ever tried making a martini with Dutch gin (Jenever)? (Dutch gin being somewhat different to the regular Bombay Sapphire type...more juniper and a generally more oily feel to it....I think in the Netherlands it is common to buy this in a shot glass (a "finger" of gin) and drink neat with your coffee...I'd be interested to know if it works in a martini too..i think Bols and De Kuyper both make such gins

    that said- i would rather have a good Manhattan any day...and I like mine quite vermouthy...something like 1 part Canadian Club to 2 parts vermouth works very well indeed, and DON'T forget the cherry!

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    Stoli Vodka
    A lil Vermouth
    shake the shit outta it until the shaker frosts
    garnish with a twist of lime
    HEAVEN!!!!!!

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    Dr. Bombay and I are great friends. 3 olives only, 1 ice cube in a shaker and as dry as the Indian desert. When I go to Ol Blighty, Whiskey Mac's only. I can't seem to find ginger wine worth a crap here.

    BTW, try an old fashioned with southern comfort, nice.

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    I'm not a fan of the martini. I prefer Plymouth Gin in a pink G&T. It is just a gin and tonic with about 6 shakes of bitters. About the only other cocktails I will drink are a rusty nail, scotch on the rocks, or once a year or so a margarita on the rocks.

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    I have never drank a Martini, always associated them with the rich and snobby. Give me a shot of Jack with a beer chaser and I'm a happy man!!

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    Baron.... Sounds good except I prefer mine with dust on the garlic stuffed olives.

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    Never had a Martini but I love Gin and tonic, I will have to give the Martini a try.

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    For the G&T I go for good ol' Tanqueray rather than Bombay Sapphire. Shot o' Tanqueray over an ice-filled old fashioned glass, splash of lime and top of with tonic. Simple and delicious (and prevents malaria).

    I'm with you, Lawrence. I like my Martini "up" or not at all.

    @Baskerville, Martinis aren't snobby. James bond drank his originally with Gordon's gin, which is pretty much a well drink here in the states! I used to drink Whiskey with beer chasers, but I found it scared the hell out of people when I did that. These days if you do that people will think you're a hard-drinkin' madman. I think they've gotten a little sissified these days. If you're ever down my way, I'll have a shot of Ezra 90 and a Shiner Bock with ya though!

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    Date night with the wifey...

    Hendrick's Martini with muddled cucumber accompanied with crab cakes over fried green tomatoes.

    Now that's tough to improve upon if you ask me.

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    I fill my shaker 1/2 to 3/4 of ice. I pour some Noilly Prat in, maybe an ounce. Give it a light shake and stir, then quickly dump out the vermouth, keeping all the vermouth that has clinged to the ice cubes. I don't let it drip out, just quickly pour out the bulk of it, then pour in 3 oz's of Plymouth Gin. Shakes and swirl the mixer till it frosts up, and pour into a chilled martini glass with 3 Jalaepeno stuff olives sitting lose in the bottom. I pierce on of the olives with a toothpick. I take the olives right out of the brine and don't shake them off or anything, which gives it a very slightly dirty taste, sometimes I will add a teaspoon of brine depnding on the mood. I let the olives sit loose on the bottom and pour in the gin. I try to drink it before it warms up too much. So good..

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    I never cared much for martinis, as for practical purposes, the "dry" ones are nothing but straight-up gin. (You "dry" connoiseurs would probably be aghast at FDR's White House cocktail hour, where he used almost 50% vermouth in mixing his guests' martinis.:lol:) The worst drink I ever had was a gin and diet tonic water. About the only gin drink I like is a tall Tom Collins, and for those, you can use the cheap gin that comes in plastic jugs which works just fine.

    I always thought a vodka martini was called a Gibson, and it was garnished one of those little cocktail onions instead of an olive.

    As for the shaken/stirred debate, all I can say is I once watched as a hotel bartender (he looked like an 18-year-old kid) had to check his recipe book for my favorite cocktail, a Manhattan on the rocks. He put the whiskey, sweet vermouth and dash of bitters all in a shaker with ice and I watched in amazement as he SHOOK the SOB!! I didn't try to correct him, as I was already pissed at not being able to smoke my pipe at this place and didn't want to lose my temper further. (And he forgot the cherry.)

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