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Lakelands: Let's Build A Sauce Scale

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  1. jaytex969

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    I just fired up some Coniston Cut Plug and read the thread concerning Ennerdale.

    I've enjoyed the Lakelands I've tried so far and I realize that I've only scratched the surface.

    For the sake of myself and other "saucy" smokers, let's build a comprehensive list of all things Lakeland and try to rate them on a scale of "sauciness".

    Scale suggestions:

    1- Is that a wee bit of sauce, maybe, in the background?
    2- You can taste it but it doesn't need its own pipe.
    3- Try not to store it in the same container as your delicate VA flakes.
    4- You only smoke it in a cob.
    5- You sit it out to air a day or two in advance of smoking.
    6- It's a bit much, but you're pretty sure you'll come to like it.
    7- The dog barks to go out whenever you load a pipe.
    8- The dog makes you go out whenever you load a pipe.
    9- Your wife inquires about your fidelity and searches you tobacco storage closet for a courtesan.
    10- The postal carrier has strapped you package to the roof of his vehicle and wears gloves to handle it.

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    11- Ennerdale

    "We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that death will tremble to take us." ---Hank

    "Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man..." --- The Dude
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    10...

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    I had a 10 pound box of Ennerdale delivered in the Spring and the driver of the mail van asked if she could keep it because of how it made the van smell.

    Damnation seize my soul if I give you quarters, or take any from you.
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    I prefer the visual pain scale for rating Lakeland blends.

    Neal
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    Neal's a closet Lakeland fan. (whispering) he likes Bob's Chocolate Flake.

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    OK, so Ennerdale is around 10-11 on the scale?

    Where does Bob's fit in? Grousemoore? I've not tried either yet.

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    Ennerdale or durian?

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    Grousemoor is by far the most aromatic aromatic I've had. Waaaay beyond what I can take. But it smells nice, so maybe it doesn't fit in your clever scale.

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    Grousemoore-5
    Bob's-2
    Rich Dark Honeydew-7
    Glengarry-8

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    I'd throw Grousemoor at 5 if Ennerdale does in fact "go to 11"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc

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    This is a good thread as I am very new to the Lakeland genre. For those with ample experience, where would Bosun Cut Plug and Brown Flake Scented fall in?

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    Heck, Warhorse smells way stronger than any Lakeland I've purchased.

    Not the sweet, new grass with flowers is this harvesting of mine;
    Not the upland clover bloom...
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    I would think Brown Flake Scented would be about a 3. BCP unscented would be a 5 and BCP aromatic would be a 7. All subjective of course.

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    I feel like this should be on the scale:

    - Evokes a headshop run by the world's fanciest granny

    Maybe somewhere between 8 and 9?

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    So, this is where we stand, so far. I added DFU as a 2, based on my limited Lakeland experience. If that or any other ranking seems suspect, please chime in. If you know of any missing entries, please let us know.

    There are a few at the end unassigned. Anyone with experience let me know where they fit.

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    1- Is that a wee bit of sauce, maybe, in the background?

    2- You can taste it but it doesn't need its own pipe.

    Bob's Chocolate Flake, Dark Flake Unscented

    3- Try not to store it in the same container as your delicate VA flakes.

    Brown Flake Scented

    4- You only smoke it in a cob.

    5- You sit it out to air a day or two in advance of smoking.

    Grousemoore, Bosun Cut Plug Unscented

    6- It's a bit much, but you're pretty sure you'll come to like it.

    7- The dog barks to go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Rich Dark Honeydew, Bosun Cut Plug Aromatic

    8- The dog makes you go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Glengarry

    9- Your wife inquires about your fidelity and searches you tobacco
    storage closet for a courtesan.

    10- The postal carrier has strapped you package to the roof of his vehicle and wears gloves to handle it.

    11- If you dare!

    Ennerdale

    Not yet assigned:

    Durian
    Dark Flake Scented

    Honorable Mentions:

    Warhorse, Hyde Park

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    GH&Co. Grasmere Flake is completely of the charts, to my nose.

    I love Lakelands, Ennerdale being a firm favourite. But Grasmere....

    Smoking can't be bad for you. It cures Salmon.

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    What about Conniston? For me, that would range at 4-6, but I don't have any experience with the "extreme" Lakelands, so I don't really know

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    Grasmere is the one with rose geranium? Never had it, but I like Persian candies that have rose flavorings and it sounds nice, though pretty intense.

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    I might add GLP Stoinehenge to 1. I'm enjoying a bowl of that right now.

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    Mixture 79-7

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    Mixture 79 smells like dip to me. Like copenhagen. Maybe I'm having a stroke or something, but that's what I get every time I take a whiff out of the jar.

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    Completely different when burning. Like an American take on licorice and floral.

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    I'll find out soon enough. I've got quite a bit to work through before I give that one a go though, haha.

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    Gotta throw in SG Special Flake #1 and #3.

    Both are probably in the 8-9 range. SG Cannon Plug as well.

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    Number 7 Broken Flake and CCP unscented would be a 6. I believe the CCP aro would be pretty high up, maybe a 9?
    Incidentally, this should tell you how “ unscented” the CCP Unscented is.

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    Great idea! Best Brown #2 is a 2, I'd say.

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    Just bringing the scale up to date.

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    1- Is that a wee bit of sauce, maybe, in the background?

    X

    2- You can taste it but it doesn't need its own pipe.

    Bob's Chocolate Flake, Dark Flake Unscented, Best Brown #2

    3- Try not to store it in the same container as your delicate VA flakes.

    Brown Flake Scented

    4- You only smoke it in a cob.

    X

    5- You sit it out to air a day or two in advance of smoking.

    Grousemoore, Bosun Cut Plug Unscented, Coniston Cut Plug

    6- It's a bit much, but you're pretty sure you'll come to like it.

    #7 Broken Flake

    7- The dog barks to go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Rich Dark Honeydew, Bosun Cut Plug Aromatic

    8- The dog makes you go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Glengarry, SG Special Flake #1, SG Special Flake #3

    9- Your wife inquires about your fidelity and searches you tobacco
    storage closet for a courtesan.

    Coniston Cut Plug Aromatic

    10- The postal carrier has strapped you package to the roof of his vehicle and wears gloves to handle it.

    X

    11- If you dare!

    Ennerdale

    Unassigned list. If you've smoked any of these blends, please help us with a rating. Finally, if you disagree with any of the assigned rankings, initiate a debate so we can hammer it out based on consensus of the experienced.

    Not yet assigned:

    Durian
    Dark Flake Scented
    Grasmere Flake
    SG Cannon Plug

    The Honorable Mention list are ones, to my understanding, not actually produced by native Lakelanders, but I've put a numeric value beside them based on your input. If any are actually Lakeland tobacco, please correct me.

    Honorable Mentions:

    Warhorse (3)
    Hyde Park (1)
    Stonehenge
    Mixture 79 (7)

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    The Honorable Mention list are ones, to my understanding, not actually produced by native Lakelanders

    Stonehenge was a collaboration with John Gawith so it's legit.

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    It really all depends on how often you smoke Lakelands really. For instance I don’t even taste it in BB2 anymore but I do remember tasting it pretty heavily when I first started smoking it. Now I rate as one of the best VaBur Flakes on the market, it’s got this sweet and sour thing going on that is to die for. I would rate Kendal Flake at about 9. Dark Flake Scented at about 6 (it’s more floral than perfumed, if that makes sense?) I would put Grasmere and Grousmoor at 9 (at least). BCF can differ, I’ve had it be a near 7 and other times a 2 or a 1.

    I’m pretty sure Hyde Park is a Gawith product too (not sure if it still is)

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    I like Durian the fruit but who makes a tobacco scented/flavoured with Durian? I've tried googling etc.

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    Stonehenge was a collaboration with John Gawith so it's legit.

    According to TRC, it's manufactured by GH&Co. I wonder if this is still the case, or if that was just for the initial run? Love the stuff, wish I'd bought more than a few tins when it was on sale a couple months ago.

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    I like this.
    I would personally put grousemoor and coniston plug (unscented) one apart, I think grousemoor at #4 and the coniston stays at 5.
    I like Bobs at #2, but best brown could possibly be just a 1 for me...
    See what the crowd says!
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    According to TRC, it's manufactured by GH&Co. I wonder if this is still the case, or if that was just for the initial run? Love the stuff, wish I'd bought more than a few tins when it was on sale a couple months ago.

    I would think so. The flakes resemble a Lakeland style in terms of size, thickness and feel when rubbing. Doesn't taste like any Pease/C&D VaPer I've had, either.

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    Just bringing this up to date. Based on input, Hyde Park and Stonehenge have been added as "official" Lakelands. Grousmoor has been reassigned and a few others have been added in.

    If you know of any we missed or would like to contest a ranking, please speak up. Also, please review the unassigned and "honorable mentions" at the end.

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    .

    1- Is that a wee bit of sauce, maybe, in the background?

    Stonehenge, Hyde Park

    2- You can taste it but it doesn't need its own pipe.

    Bob's Chocolate Flake, Dark Flake Unscented, Best Brown #2

    3- Try not to store it in the same container as your delicate VA flakes.

    Brown Flake Scented

    4- You only smoke it in a cob.

    Grousemoor

    5- You sit it out to air a day or two in advance of smoking.

    Bosun Cut Plug Unscented, Coniston Cut Plug Unscented

    6- It's a bit much, but you're pretty sure you'll come to like it.

    #7 Broken Flake, Dark Flake Scented

    7- The dog barks to go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Rich Dark Honeydew, Bosun Cut Plug Aromatic

    8- The dog makes you go out whenever you load a pipe.

    Glengarry, SG Special Flake #1, SG Special Flake #3

    9- Your wife inquires about your fidelity and searches you tobacco storage closet for a courtesan.

    Coniston Cut Plug Aromatic, Kendal Flake, Grasmere, Grousmoor

    10- The postal carrier has strapped you package to the roof of his vehicle and wears gloves to handle it.

    X

    11- If you dare!

    Ennerdale

    Unassigned list. If you've smoked any of these blends, please help us with a rating. Finally, if you disagree with any of the assigned rankings, initiate a debate so we can hammer it out based on consensus of the experienced.

    Not yet assigned:

    Durian
    SG Cannon Plug

    The Honorable Mention list are ones, to my understanding, not actually produced by native Lakelanders, but I've put a numeric value beside them based on your input. If any are actually Lakeland tobacco, please correct me.

    Honorable Mentions:

    Warhorse (3)
    Mixture 79 (7)

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    I cannot uderstand how Grousemoor is so far down the list. I've never met anything like it.

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    Well, Embers and alaskanpiper both put Grousmoor at a 5.

    Later hawky put it around a 9 (which I didn't see until now) and after that mortonbriar advocated to move it to 4, which I did see.

    I've never tried it, so I'm going off of the input here.

    Let's confer, my digital brethren. Grousmoor is ____.

    EDIT: I guess I DID see hawy's input, as I just noticed that Grousmoor is currently a 4 AND a 9.

    Floor is open for debate, those who have tried it.

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    Great job, Jay!

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    I guess with grouse, less is moor?
    Put it at 9 if that makes sense to the majority.

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    Grousmoor is hands down a 9. I’ll bring some when we meet up so I can make you a believer, you’ll either love me or hate me for it! I would put Cannon Plug at 10, easily. Don’t know if you listed RB Plug but if you were to list it I would say it’s about a 4.

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    I've just never gotten a lot of "Lakeland" from Grousemoor. A bit of floral fruit, but nowhere near the levels of Glengarry or Ennerdale. Never smoked it from a tin though.

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    Embers, are you going to attach a moustache to that skull?

    I find the same with grousemoor, that is is not 'lakeland' in the way the others listed are.
    To me It is strongly distinct, but more in a league of its own, possibly their are other blends similiar that I have just not tried.

    I have tried it from tin and in bulk from a B&M, and the tin I thought had more 'essence' to it.

    Isaac

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    Embers, are you going to attach a moustache to that skull?

    Hadn't even thought of that! He's got one now!

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