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is this hole supposed to be here?

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    This is a Coronet "Foreign Made" bulldog, and was wondering if this hole is supposed to be here. There are several fill spots around the bowl, but this one is not. When looking at it through the chamber, it is right in the center of the chamber. So was this an intentional hole placement? If so, why? Thanks, John.,

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  2. cosmicfolklore

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    Hmmm, maybe it is designed for smoking really wet SG Blends, and this is to allow the tobacco to drain while you smoke.

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    Wow, that's just weird.

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    One of those fancy bulldogs with a carburetor.

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    Did you notice the hole... before you bought it?

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    Looks like a place to insert a fuse.

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    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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    I got this in a group of pipes on line, so no. I didn't know it was there before hand.

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    Maybe it's one of Chasing Embers old planter pipes.

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    I'm going out on a limb here, but I don't think the hole factory standard, for any factory.

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    It certainly does seem like some previous owner's attempt at drainage, though I would expect it to cause more problems than it solve. It would definitely be strange if the pipe was manufactured that way, but the idea of an individual drilling it is much more probable.

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    Maybe it's one of Chasing Embers old planter pipes.

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    I was thinking that it could have been sort of display pipe, and this was used to hold it on some sort of stand. I can't read the stamp on the pipe, but I am not sure whether being a big name or not would have mattered for whatever the purposes the display would have served. Heck, it could have even been some sort of art thing.

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    It's a whistle pipe. It would entertain you while smoking, back before the days of radio, it would whistle while you smoked it.

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    I was thinking that it could have been sort of display pipe

    Yeah that seems equally probable, if not more. The drainage hole theory rests mostly on some ambitious yet uninformed previous owner becoming so tired of the gurgling that they took a drill to their pipe. The display pipe theory makes a lot more sense. But folks make stupid, rash decisions all the time, so I'm not closing the book on the mad driller.

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    Or, it's a whistle pipe. The plot thickens.

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    Thanks for the replies. Here's the markings on the side of the pipe.

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    The pipe could have had a carburetor that the owner removed. Possibly it was pried out; looks rough around the hole. I have a pipe with a carburetor in the same location.

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    During the Civil War, soldiers would drill a small hole at the bottom of their pipes, it would serve as a small drain, and provide a nice whistle sound while smoking. Kind of fluty.

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    it would serve as a small drain, and provide a nice whistle sound while smoking. Kind of fluty.

    In German the word for pipe (Pfeife) is the same as the word for whistle.

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    During the Civil War, soldiers would drill a small hole at the bottom of their pipes, it would serve as a small drain, and provide a nice whistle sound while smoking. Kind of fluty.

    What a great historical reference! I'm absolutely obsessed with the War between the States, and have a whole bookshelf dedicated to the subject! Where did you read, hear, or discover this anecdote? I especially love to read first-hand accounts of folks who lived through that extraordinary time. There's something about that war, that time, that spirit of human experience which is so vivid and resonant, it just grips at my soul. Anyway, I just ask because I'm always on the lookout for any good material on the subject that I have yet to read/discover and am also just excited to run into a fellow enthusiast.

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    In German the word for pipe (Pfeife) is the same as the word for whistle.

    This brings to mind the flute-like instrument known as the Fife.

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    Where did you read, hear, or discover this anecdote?

    I apologize, I was just having a little fun and I did not intend to be taken seriously.

    By the way, I am also fascinated by the Civil War and I do Civil War reenactments; hence my Avatar.

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    I apologize, I was just having a little fun and I did not intend to be taken seriously.

    I somewhat suspected this, but I love it anyway!

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    You still totally got me, though. As soon as anyone mentions the Civil War, I get too stoked to think.

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    It is intriguing. I know carburetor pipes put the hole right there, and it could have been torn out, but all of the other guesses are equally valid. I just wish we could have a real answer.

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    Has anyone ever found a carburetor pipe to perform better than a normal pipe? Or, is it like those stingers, a perpetual joke on all pipesmokers?

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    I had one of those E.A. Carey pipes with slots in the stem. They seemed to cut the taste, so I taped over the slots. Even then, it was not much of a pipe, so I passed it along to a friend who wanted it as a prop. This mystery hole makes for an amusing thread. I lean toward the theory of a previous owner drilling a drain hole.

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    Oh, yeah. A hack job for sure. Drilled from the bottom of the chamber [heel] out I reckon.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    I ended up with an old Grabow Zulu with the same thing in the same place. I made a paste out of honey and charcoal and filled the hole with it. Not professional by any means but the plug has stayed fine and is hardly noticeable.

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    The carburetor is supposed to draw cool air in at the bottom of the chamber. I have a Kaywoodie and have smoked a couple others. My opinion on the true carburetor pipe is that the hole is so small (it typically just fits a paper clip) that no air goes through it. It is too easy for a sipper to draw air from the top of the bowl that no air actually goes through the carb. On top of that, the metal sticks up from the bottom of the bowl, causing the inability to tamp the last bit of tobacco and often results in more dottle than I like. So Cosmic, no, it does not serve the intended purpose in my opinion.

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    Maybe it's one of Chasing Embers old planter pipes.

    I only do that to Dunhills. Other than the hole, that one actually appears to have been a good pipe.

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    Very nice carburetion design! Let us know how it smokes. I'm now considering drilling holes in the bottom of all my pipes

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    I just snagged my birth year Dunhill recently and I'm anxious to give this a try. See, this site is full of great ideas and I never would have thought of this on my own.

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    I would think that after a few bowls, that hole would become sealed due to a cake layer building up, and I thought about filling it, but decided to leave it the way I found it. As for finding out how it smokes, well it has become someone else's conundrum. It was purchased today, and I informed the buyer it was there, and he didn't seem to mind. Who knows, the buyer may wonder about it, and it may appear back on here. Thanks everyone for the replies.

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    I'm anxious to give this a try
    I read this as a serious statement for a solid minute. I was not sure what to say. I am now mostly certain you were at least mostly kidding.

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    What??? You don't think it's a good idea? CE does it.

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    I would think that after a few bowls, that hole would become sealed due to a cake layer building up, and I thought about filling it, but decided to leave it the way I found it. As for finding out how it smokes, well it has become someone else's conundrum. It was purchased today, and I informed the buyer it was there, and he didn't seem to mind. Who knows, the buyer may wonder about it, and it may appear back on here. Thanks everyone for the replies.

    Good point about the cake. I'll be sure to start with a quarter inch drill bit when drilling out my pipes to avoid clogging of the carburetor hole.

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    That is a good point regarding clogging with cake. What's everyone's thoughts on perhaps multiple holes? Just an idea. Spitballing here.

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    I don't know which is worse...a hole where one is not supposed to be or no hole where one is supposed to be.

    “Bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” – George Carlin
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    I picked up a Yello bole in the last 3 months that was a carburetor. It brings in air through the carb and the smoke is much cooler and less dense. It kind of throws me off. I know there was another member who said that carb pipes were the easiest to smoke tobacco to fine white ash in.

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    I always thought that the carb hole was supposed to be on the side where your finger is. Oh wait, I'm thinking of something else. Nevermind.

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