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Is it just me? Latakia = Heartburn

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  • Started 9 months ago by lasttango
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  1. lasttango

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    Latakia blends give me intense heartburn. It feels like acid starts churning in my stomach and starts bubbling up.

    I love the smell and taste of Lat blends, but the pain of the heartburn makes it impossible for me to enjoy.

    I can tolerate blends with a pinch of it, but not much more.

    I tried some Father Dempsey this weekend. As great as it tasted, the heartburn kicked in big time and ruined it.

    I am an cigarette ex-smoker (7 years off), and I do inhale pipe smoke a little... especially non-aromatic burley blends.

    This only happens with Latakia blends... and it starts happening within 5 minutes of smoking it.

    Does this happen to anyone else?

    I can't think of anything else that I drink or eat that gives me heartburn... except the occasional late night meal.

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  2. jrenko

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    I guess that the problem is that you inhale. Mabey try focusing on not inhaling the smoke with a lighter blend and then after some practise you will quit that old habit of always inhaling.

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  3. artificialme

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    I think that's happened to me for a few times I smoked pipe. Especially when using my Venini pipe. No matter what blend did I smoke, chest started to tightened and sometimes heartburn occurred. Try not to inhale. It helps me a lot. For a matter for the cause, maybe something in the latakia did it

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    A friend of mine can't smoke Perique blends for the same reason. Any kind of Wintergreen chewing tobacco sets my stomach on fire.

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    This doesn't happen to me, but I do not inhale. I smoke almost exclusively Latakia blends. I do retro-hale nearly every puff.

    Side note: I can't smoke burley blends. Burley, if used more than condimental levels, burns my mouth. I get sores and swelling from burley.


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    I posted a comment about heartburn 2 years ago. Here is the link.

    Dunhill Royal Yacht was giving me a heartburn if smoked too hot. I have been there feeling what you are feeling right now. I sat down and started thinking; who else may have a heartburn, but have to stay away from drugs and find a home remedy? Pregnant ladies! You know what pregnant ladies do when they have a heartburn? They drink a shot of pickle juice. Not sweet but salty ones.

    I guess you know what causes a heartburn (acidic drinks, alcohol, soft drinks, junk food, tomato, etc.). Other than staying away from stimulants of heartburn, I take a shot of pickle juice whenever my GERD kicks in. It may a subjective solution though, give it a try and see if it works.

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    I went thru a bout of heart burn awhile back , not smoking related , the medical advice is all the same ... use acid reducers , which I think treats the symptoms not the cause .

    The long term solution I found was to reset to a healthy gut , surprisingly simple to do , avoid some things , no late nite snacks , eat more to support your natural metab , which is kinda different for each individual. No drama and it works .

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    It's not just you.

    For me, it's the same 5 minutes, but the reaction is getting sick to my stomach. I'm not talking unsettled here, I'm saying full blown heaving...yuck!

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    ...drink a shot of pickle juice

    Yup

    Lots of other enzymatic foods too , try lemon and water , sauerkraut , pickles , kimchi ...

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    I was going to say “Yes, it’s just you”, but obviously that’s not the case. I smoke straight Latakia, with no ill effect, but I don’t inhale. I think that’s your issue. You really don’t know exactly what Latakia was smoked with. The woods used contain a complex variety of oils.

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    My swmbo also took a low dose pyridoxine and antihistamine to help with nausea from being preggers , turns out to be ordinary vitamin b6 , found in bananas

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    I suffer from heartburn occasionally. I use an inhibitor like Prilosec to keep it in control. I try to make sure I take the medicine but sometimes smoking will trigger it if I forget.

    Jason
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    I had GERD really bad about 9-10 years ago and my doctor put me on a prescription drug (Aciphex) once a day. I lost 80 pounds about 6 years ago and changed my eating habits...that helped a lot. Doctor took me off Aciphex and now I take OTC medication as needed.

    As to the original post. No, Latakia doesn't give me heartburn...I don't inhale though.

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    tried some Father Dempsey this weekend. As great as it tasted, the heartburn kicked in big time and ruined it

    That is too bad. He always goes with me to the golf course.

    This doesn't happen to me, but I do not inhale. I smoke almost exclusively Latakia blends. I do retro-hale nearly every puff.

    Side note: I can't smoke burley blends. Burley, if used more than condimental levels, burns my mouth. I get sores and swelling from burley.

    Same here. I have also a mental aversion to Burley.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Side note: I can't smoke burley blends. Burley, if used more than condimental levels, burns my mouth.

    I have a similar issue with burley, not as severe, but mouth soreness when I smoke it in some blends, and always if I smoke it straight (i.e. Solani Aged Burley Flake)...

    I can always tell if a blend has burley in it from the mouth sensation...this doesn't happen with other blends.

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    Thanks, that's a lot of very helpful information. I typically don't inhale pipe smoke because it is heavier and it can burn. I don't inhale the smoke like it was a cigarette, but I do like to let the smoke hit my throat (20% of the time during a bowl). I am okay with that. It seems that with Latakia I should never inhale.

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    The only thing I can think of that gives me heartburn like that is Pappa Johns pizza. Instant intense heartburn.

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    I haven’t tried smoking a pizza yet , but I’ll give it a whirl

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    With pizza you must not inhale

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    only happens with Latakia blends

    Dang, tango, that just sucks. I'm sorry, man. And not inhaling either. Me, I'm like woods; I do lats either in heavy blends or straight, never a problem. Wish I could help. -sigh-

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    'tango, if you only get reflux with Latakia, and are happy without it, you are lucky. Reflux can mess up your esophagus (food tube), so avoid any regular problem with that. One low dose OTC med helps me avoid reflux, with an extra now and then if I eat supper late or eat a heavy meal. My only direct identifiable problem with pipe blends has been mouth burn with some aromatics. I think Latakia is overused in pipe blends, but I do enjoy a number of Lat blends. Not really necessary to use it in every second blend in my 'umble opinion.

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    That's just your body gearing up for a massive jammer. Best to shrug it off and carry on like all good men do.

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    I've had reflux for about as long as I can remember, before ever trying tobacco. And so I've tried many approaches and have many thoughts on the subject. As with so many health issues it's a complicated one with many aspects. Wow how many more times can i say many? Anyway I'd rather not drone on though o I'll leave you with a preventive and a treatment, without affecting ability to consume the latakia if you so desire. One is eat more fresh fruits and vegetables, they will make you less acidic overall. And if it's bad and you feel like your stomach might digest the rest of you they try aloe Vera gel juice. Not the juice without the gel. The gel look like sea monkeys swiming in the juice but they are sweet morsels of relief. Or you can just get an aloe plant, cut a leaf open and suck out the contents but the juice has some sugar and goes down easier. It comes in square bottles from Korea mostly..
    I wish you luck in your battle with acid and if you desire the extended version of this just say the word.. haha..

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    Latakia and even dark fired can give me heartburn. I guess smoking is an irritant in general but smoke-flavoured tobacco is much worse for it. I find the same with peaty scotches, for example. Blended scotch or bourbon are usually fine but peaty single malts can be an instant trigger for me.

    I can still smoke Virginias so that is the main thing...

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    Stop inhaling and see if still bothers you..........Stop inhaling altogether........

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    Do you fold and stuff the pizza before smoking

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    Some sort of Virginia gives me heartburn, and I don't inhale. Smoking the blend with a filter was my solution. Actually ... Wild Atlantic by Peterson also gave me heartburn, same solution though.

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    I've never gotten heartburn from a blend yet. But I did get some nasty nausea from Sam's Blend. Shame, because I liked the taste of it.

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