I'm No Duke Street Irregular but I Think These Are Fake

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snagstangl

Lifer
Jul 1, 2013
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Iowa, United States
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-with-patent-estate-pipe-2/182694413234
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-with-patent-estate-pipe-1/182694410143
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jpmcwjr

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May 12, 2015
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Carmel Valley, CA
What might be the story with the defect (hole) in the second pic? I almost looks the way veneer looks with a hole in it, revealing the substrate.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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60,433
How lucrative can it be to turn out creditable forgeries? The real ones are pricey as pipes, but per unit, it's not a big haul.

 

saintpeter

Lifer
May 20, 2017
1,158
2,632
Wonder if anyone has notified the seller.
And the seller says:
I am being constantly harassed by other ebay users about the validity of the stampings on this pipe. I am in no way a pipe expert nor do I claim to be so please look at them carefully and investigate for yourselves and place your bids accordingly. I do not claim this to be an original Dunhill pipe nor do I know if it is or not. I leave that up to you to decide.
Yet it is listed as "Dunhill with patent estate pipe 2"

 
May 4, 2015
3,210
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I would take it down immediately. Clearly still hoping to dupe someone with the explicit knowledge that it's counterfeit.

 
May 4, 2015
3,210
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Though... I just looked at the auction. It's only at 7.50. Perhaps his little additional disclaimer is scaring people off. Good.

 

paulfg

Lifer
Feb 21, 2016
1,566
2,930
Corfu Greece
check the other one now up to 127.50

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dunhill-patent-estate-pipe-1-/182694410143?rmvSB=true
same seller same stampings same disclaimer

 
May 4, 2015
3,210
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WOW.. What can be done here? Contact eBay? This guy should not be allowed to get away with swindling people like this.

 

nevadablue

Lifer
Jun 5, 2017
1,192
4
And, IMO, that is all that matters. This is a hobby. If owning fakes is what he wants, great. If not, he should learn. We don't need to police the world, do we?

Sorry, this happens in every hobby and it is a constant yammer on other hobby forums (fora?) too.

Sharing the info here makes sense, trying to get ebay or a crooked seller (or ignorant seller) to change is a waste of time. I have tried to inform sellers on other subjects and sometimes they are truly ignorant, sometimes just crooks.

 

craig61a

Lifer
Apr 29, 2017
5,765
47,543
Minnesota USA
eBay sellers are of all stripes... if buyers arent willing to do a little research they'll get taken. This has been going on as long as eBay has been around. Caveat Emptor...

 
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