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  1. hauntedmyst

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    This is just apauling.

    Afghan woman, jailed for being raped, wins pardon
    By Jan Harvey

    KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan has pardoned a woman who was raped by a family member but then jailed for adultery, a statement from the presidential palace has said, in a case that highlights deep concerns about women's rights in the country.
    It remained unclear whether the 21-year-old-woman, known as Gulnaz, would still have to marry the man who attacked her, her cousin's husband, after an earlier release offer which stipulated they must marry.
    Afghan President Hamid Karzai's palace issued the statement pardoning Gulnaz late on Thursday, a rare pardon in such a case in staunchly conservative Muslim Afghanistan.
    Her case attracted international attention after she took part in a documentary film commissioned by the European Union but later withheld.
    Gulnaz had eventually agreed to the condition she marry her attacker under the earlier release offer but her lawyer said the release granted this week did not depend on her going through with the marriage.
    It was not clear whether she still intended to marry the man, her lawyer, Kimberley Motley, said. Her attacker is serving a 7-year prison term for the crime.
    Motley said she hoped her client would be released shortly, and that there was a place for her in a women's shelter.
    The palace statement said Justice Minister Habibullah Ghalib asked a panel of top legal officials to order her release. Gulnaz sought a pardon from Karzai earlier this week.
    "After assessing Gulnaz's case, (they) decided that her remaining sentence in jail should be pardoned under the current rules and regulations of the country and she should be released," the palace statement said.
    Gulnaz was initially sentenced to two years in jail for "adultery by force," which was later increased to 12 years on appeal. She was given the choice of marriage or serving a jail sentence.
    Her sentence was then cut to three years after a third appeal, and the requirement for her to marry was dropped.
    Gulnaz became pregnant as a result of the attack and gave birth to a daughter in the Badam Bagh women's prison in Kabul almost a year ago.
    Motley also welcomed what she said was a decision to review the cases of other women in the same jail.
    "The judiciary has effectively supported the Elimination of Violence Against Women Act by allowing for her to be released, for allowing for her to be pardoned," Motley said.
    "Precedent definitely has been set. As I understand it, the judiciary today was also reviewing the files of other women in Badam Bagh," she said.
    The presidential palace declined to comment on whether other cases were under review.
    FILM BLOCKED
    The film in which Gulnaz featured, a documentary on women in prison, was blocked from release by the EU mission in Afghanistan over fears it might compromise the safety of the women involved because it showed their identity.
    The film-makers have been pushing for the film to be released, and say Gulnaz wanted her story to be told.
    "I made a promise to these women that I would get their stories out. I am glad that I've been able to honor that promise to Gulnaz," said the film's director Clementine Malpas.
    "I still hope that our film can be released, so people can hear the stories of the other women, and perhaps increase their chance of getting justice as well."
    EU spokeswoman Lynne O'Donnell welcomed news Gulnaz would be freed but declined to comment on whether the film would be released.
    Gulnaz's case had been condemned widely by human rights groups. An online petition started by Motley has been signed by more than 6,000 people.
    Motley said she is still trying to ascertain whether the attacker will also be released if they agree to marry.

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  2. matchstickman

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    I dont even know how to respond to this

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    It just boggles the mind
    I mean are we still in living in medieval times or what!

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    +1 pipe novelist. I cannot even try to wrap my head around this type of thing still going on.

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    Everything to do with women over there is appalling, everything! I'll bite my tongue lest I say what I believe should happen to the entire region.

    A young 19yo Aussie was raped over there, the Consulate told her to report it to the police, she did, and spent 9 months in jail for her trouble! She's suing the Aussie Govt and I hope she woops their ass!!!!

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    I've covered events in the Middle East and Africa and yeah, that about sums up the insane laws.

    We don't know how good we actually have it in the States unless you've been to countries where you can be pulled over w/o probable cause, or be tried multiple times for the same crime.

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    uhhhhhhh..... i think on this one im going to be quite, dont want to offend any body with my mouth......

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    Not even sure on how to comment on this one!

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    This is common in radical Islamic countries. The same also applies to men or boys who are victims of homosexual rape. If you want something just as sick Google Islam and female circumcision. It is absolutely horrid and believe it or not, there are activist groups here in the States trying to make it legal on American soil.

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    Barbaric and horrific, yes certainly. But before we condemn other societies for being 'medieval', note that in 1992 in some US states it was still legal to sexually abuse your spouse.

    I hope this doesn't offend as I am not defending the actions of others, only pointing out that our rights and freedoms are not so long lived and we were very recently committing similar acts of cruelty to each other.

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    I hope this doesn't offend as I am not defending the actions of others, only pointing out that our rights and freedoms are not so long lived and we were very recently committing similar acts of cruelty to each other.

    Thank you for your voice of reason. While the aforementioned actions are inexcusable, the equal treatment of the genders still has a long way to go, even in western civilization. Fun fact: Women in the Swiss canton of Appenzell-Innerrhoden were only allowed to vote in 1991.

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