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How Would You Define a Pipesmoking Snob?

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  1. tufftony

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    As someone who thinks that rusticated pipes are strictly for rustics?

    Or in some other way?

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    Is this a trap ?

    Keep calm...smoke a pipe.
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    A pipe smoking snob is someone who spends time every day discussing pipe smoking on the internet with a bunch of people he doesn't know.

    De Gustibus Non Est Disputandum
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    Some might say that they draw this line for people who think that others that smoke lesser tobaccos and pipes are beneath them, but I tend to think of it as someone who just appreciates the superiority of their own selections of pipes and tobaccos. There is a difference. I am snobbish about what pipes I pick and tobaccos that I want to smoke. And, I don't mind being snobbish about it. But, I don't necessarily think less of others for smoking drug store corn cobs and cheap tobaccos. Snobbery is quite ok, and enjoyable. Know your pleasures. But, those that put others down because of their selections are just jerks and assholes. That has little to do with snobbery, IMO.

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    Yes. I agree. Personally I'm not sure there are real snobs in the
    pipe-smoking community. There's a certain amount of good-natured
    joshing but the community as a whole seems to view pipe-smoking as
    an interesting hobby and that it doesn't matter how you choose to
    enjoy it.

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    To me a snob is not a positive word. A snob is a wannabe. A connoisseur is probably what the snob would want to appear to be in the pipe smoking community.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    I am a self-labelled snob, and damn proud of it. There are just some things that I am just not going to smoke, and some tobacco companies that I have no respect for and will never buy. Some pipes that I just think look stupid. So yes, I am a proud snob.

    But, everyone else can do as they want. I won't laugh at your drugstore corncob pipe... in your face... to loud.

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    How would you define a Pipesmoking Snob?

    One who believes, or advocates, that a particular tobacco or pipe is inferior based primarily on the opinions of a group while claiming said opinion is wholly their own.

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    I would say the line is drawn at denigrating others choices in pipes or tobacco.

    "I don't smoke OTC tobacco. I think it stinks" Not a snob

    "I don't smoke OTC tobacco. I think it stinks and anyone that smokes it is a fool" definitely a snob.

    Same goes for pipe brands.

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    Hey, you make it sound like being a snob is a bad thing.

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    I just think that the sensitive types that would get all hurt and emotional at what someone better than them thinks is adorable. JK

    For clarity, I only bawk at my close friends for making poor decisions. And, that is because I care about them. Everyone else is free to do as they wish, without the slightest worry that I pay any attention to them at all.

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    @bassbug
    I couldn’t have said it better myself. Totally agree.

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    Those who say they would never smoke a cob is a snob.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

    Heave to you dark colored ship under sail! Prepare to be boarded!
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    Cob snobs. While I don’t prefer cobs, I own two and smoke them irregularly. I don’t see a problem in being a tobacco snob if I keep my snobbishness turned inward and don’t enforce it on Thera.

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    I just think that the sensitive types that would get all hurt and emotional at what someone better than them thinks is adorable. JK

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    I wrote about this in 2012.

    http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/pipe-smoking-lifestyle/snobbery-is-as-snobbery-does/

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    The next logical thread would be "How would you define a pipe smoking SOB?"

    THAT one, I have a few ideas for.

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    An SOB, IMO, is just someone who takes themself and smoking a pipe way more serious than me. It's supposed to be fun. I am always shocked when someone acts as if insulting their favorite brand or genre is akin to blasphemy.

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    "Those who say they would never smoke a cob is a snob."

    I smoked a cob once because I forgot my pipe and wanted to smoke with a friend. I kept it to try pipe tobaccos that could ghost my precious briars.

    So yeah, I would have never smoked a cob otherwise. Clay pipes on the other hand are amazing and anybody who says different is a snob.

    "I just think that the sensitive types that would get all hurt and emotional at what someone better than them thinks is adorable"

    Right on.

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    Anyone who expresses an opinion is, to someone else, a snob. There are so many tender little plants these days, that just about any and every expressed sentiment is going to brown their bloomers.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain

    It is pointless to argue with a fanatic since a dim bulb can't be converted into a searchlight. - Jesse Silver
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    I guess snobbishness in general has to do with being judgmental and categorical. Everyone has some strains of snobbishness, even if it is only about not being snobbish. The opposite is an open-mindness, tolerance, and curiosity about other people (and maybe creatures) that allows them to be different and mysterious without my feeling any animosity. But snobbishness always pops up. In some cases, it seems appropriate. I don't think people should steal. Is that snobbish? Maybe in some situations and predicaments. Steal a crust of bread? I attempt to go easy on snobbery, and see what other ways of thinking are available.

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    MSO, you are a burley man. You couldn't be snobbish if you wanted to.

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    Anyone who expresses an opinion is, to someone else, a snob. There are so many tender little plants these days, that just about any and every expressed sentiment is going to brown their bloomers

    Yes, for sure. And are we going to get into reverse snobbery? That's a real thing, too.

    Actually, I think I should be offended by the above.....

    Edit: Just read Kevin's article, which features some point on reverse snobbery. Only question: Who is the dude in the photo?

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Cosmic, ha!, it's true.

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    I don't define the term, as I don't really think about how others may view my pipesmoking.

    "You are remembered for the rules you break." - General Douglas MacArthur
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    If you're a "preferred member" you're a snob. If you're a "senior member" you're a snob in training. If you're a "new member" you're chum.

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    What's "chum"?

    I've never been called that before.

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    Chum is bait for sharks.

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    I'm a snob. I don't think OTC smokers are fools. I feel sorry for them!

    I like being a snob. I just don't want to cross the line into being supercilious. It's a very thin line.

    Not the sweet, new grass with flowers is this harvesting of mine;
    Not the upland clover bloom...
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    The trick to keeping snobbishness from becoming supercilious is to never take yourself too seriously. Taking yourself seriously is a fool's gambit.

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    And are we going to get into reverse snobbery?

    We live in the age of epidemic reverse projection.

    EDIT: I'm just waiting for a cob lover to stage an attack on himself by a gang of thug briar boys (or vice versa).

    “Bipartisan usually means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out.” – George Carlin
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    I'm just waiting for a cob lover to stage an attack on himself by a gang of thug briar boys (or vice versa)

    While wearing MCGA hats (Make Cobs Great Again) and screaming "this is Cob country".

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    After a certain place in life, you aren't going to expend any energy (at all) on other peoples' pipe smoking preferences ... or footwear, or ties or lack thereof, or anything else that doesn't seem like a critical issue.

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    Sure we are, if that person is saying his way is the only true and right way. Or if he's simply full of shit on a given topic.

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    A snob is someone who thinks of a corncob pipe as just a vegetable not worthy of smoking tobacco out of. And someone who disses otc blends and compares them to gasoline, grass clippings, manure, etc.

    ...
    ...
    But we don't have any of those people here

    *Cough cough*

    ...
    .....

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    Chum is bait for sharks.

    I'm talkin' about sharkin, not catching tommy cod in the pond!

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    I don't know if I'd call them snobs, but my favorites are people who write reviews such as "I don't smoke aros, so I'm giving this highly rated aro 1 star because it has flavoring." Or, "I bought this blend knowing it was English and contains latakia, but I'm giving it 1 star because I hate latakia."

    I see this in beer reviews a lot. I've been calling myself a beer snob for almost 30 years. I'm not judgey about it, unless someone makes a snide remark about me wanting my beer in a glass or something. A few years ago, I was in a beer snob bar (one that carries a lot of expensive beer and puts them in glasses) when an acquaintance of an acquaintance made a snide remark that questioned the masculinity of a fellow beer snob and myself because we were drinking beer (very strong, expensive beer shipped in from some exotic locale, such as the Ardennes or California) that had been served in snifters. My response was something along the lines of "That's pretty funny coming from a guy drinking a Bud Light with his cheese and fruit plate."

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    Come on Didi, I didn't compare them to gasoline and lawn clippings. I said that it compliments them well.
    Now that you've tried real pipe smoking... you admitted it was better. You gonna start backpedaling now? Ha ha.

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    As you can see by my avatar, as compared to Kevin's,

    I am obviously a pipe snob. In the pic I am hanging a Dunhill Shellbriar made in 1954. 'Nuff said.

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    Anyone who buys Germain or ESO on the secondary market lol

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    To me a snob is not a positive word. A snob is a wannabe. A connoisseur is probably what the snob would want to appear to be in the pipe smoking community.

    Bingo! And further ...

    I would say the line is drawn at denigrating others choices in pipes or tobacco.

    "I don't smoke OTC tobacco. I think it stinks" Not a snob

    "I don't smoke OTC tobacco. I think it stinks and anyone that smokes it is a fool" definitely a snob.

    Same goes for pipe brands.


    It's what I try not to be, though I've caught myself on occasion.

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    Hahaha Cosmic I wasn't going to name names...but no way I'm back peddling now. Ive become much better than that...

    Wait...damn...

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    I am obviously a pipe snob. In the pic I am hanging a Dunhill
    Shellbriar made in 1954. 'Nuff said.

    Dammit to hell, newbroom. I knew this sort of thing was bound to happen
    one day. Well, my snooty friend, I myself used to be the possessor of not
    one but - wait for it - TWO glorious Dunhill Shellbriars with the most
    fantastic grains that I purchased in Montreal in the early sixties. I
    used to wear suits too though - in my callous youth - I had not yet arrived
    at the wisdom of sporting facial hair. I cannot provide any proof of this
    as sadly, and to my eternal regret, my beautiful Shellbriar pipes (made,
    I believe, from the finest Algerian briar) were lost after my move to
    Japan in the seventies. How I would have loved to reply to your post with
    a photograph of myself proudly clenching the two superb Dunhills between
    my teeth but I guess it was not destined to be.

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    Having nothing to do with pipes, but a favorite quote about snobbery involved "old families" of Boston, that is rich folks, since we're all from old families. It was said that the Cabots talked only with the Lowells, and the Lowells talked only with God.

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    Being self-critic I have to admit some snobbery.

    I've developed a personal taste in pipes and an eye for details, which for a non-piper must seem more or less ridiculous.

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    A pipe smoking snob is a snob who smokes a pipe.

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    MSO, you are a burley man. You couldn't be snobbish if you wanted to.

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    I have a collection of short stories by AA Milne (Winnie the Pooh etc) I think the book is called 'Not That It Matters'. There is a great little story where he makes fun of the university crowd for being, basically, pipe smoking snobs. The main theme I remember (and it made me chuckle about how little really changes) was his mockery of how important it was to have the precious white dot on your pipe if you wanted to be considered a REAL pipe smoker.

    Isaac

    p.s that book was published in 1920, meaning that those pipe smoking snobs he was reflecting on were written about 100 years ago!

    I don't really care if the cup is half full or half empty, I just want something to sip on.
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    Pipe smoking is an art that takes years to cultivate.
    You can always identify a beginner by the way they
    handle their pipe and especially by how they attempt
    to talk while clenching. The real pros have no problem
    but poseurs definitely have trouble sounding natural.
    This is easily spotted in movies when a non-pipesmoking
    actor is given the role of a pipesmoker.

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    I have a collection of short stories by AA Milne (Winnie the Pooh etc) I think the book is called 'Not That It Matters'.

    Sounds like a fun read. I just checked up and it's still in print.
    It sounds like a good book to settle down with while enjoying a nice
    smoke. I may just get a copy.

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    There are no snobs aboard the Black Frigate. We keelhaul them.

    Bill

    Head Black Frigate keelhauler, boss powder monkey, & troublemaker 1st class.
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    There are no snobs aboard the Black Frigate. We keelhaul them.

    Did any of them survive it?

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    Snobs are found in every hobby. I only fish cane and if you don't get it you are a lesser person who fishes with worms and a bobber. I only shoot hand built rifles with a 400yd MOA.
    You just don't get it. It somehow makes us feel better than the next person. Human nature, pure and simple. Now if you will excuse me I need to have smoke in my personal consigned Evan Thayer nose warmer filled with unobtainable blend you are not fit to own.

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