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How Long Will Pouch Tobacco Last Unopened?

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  1. loseth

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    I know it is recommended to buy tins or store your tobacco in mason jars, I have a really good sealing latch style glass jar I use for my opened stuff. But due to cost, I sometimes purchase pouches of tobacco but not far in advance. I was wondering if pouch tobacco unopened will still last a couple or few years, that is being stored in somewhat cool areas . . .

    I know its been asked already somewhat, but I couldn't find a direct answer to unopened pouches.

    Thanks

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    Here in the USA, most of the pipe tobacco available in pouches is what we call OTC (over the counter) and drug store blends. These OTC tobaccos are usually treated with a good dose of humecant topping, such as propylene glycol, to preserve freshness -- this allows these sealed, unopened pouches to have an incredibly long "shelf life" which is important in places like supermarkets where sales of pipe tobacco is rather slow.

    Because of this, our OTC pouches, unopened, can easily last for a year or two and in ideal conditions, maybe a bit longer.

    All of the above, if you don't live in the USA or Canada, may or may not apply to you, or relate to the actual blends of pouch tobaccos sold in your country, how those are packaged, or how long they would remain fresh.

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    Thanks a lot, thats what I needed to know. I live in Canada and the pouch tobacco here is pretty well all from the U.S. To be blatantly honest, the propylene glycol information there may have just officially turned me off from smoking pouch tobacco, or OTC's, I hate extra additives in anything.

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    Just so you know, propylene glycol is a food additive and it is perfectly safe.

    It's only a pain in the ass because when over used, PG causes the tobacco to take forever to dry properly -- and if you don't dry it enough, the PG holds so much moisture, the steam and the goop can make a smoke quite unpleasant.

    I'm smoking some Troost Special Cavenish right now -- from a free sample pouch which arrived yesterday. It is surprisingly perfectly moist and ready to smoke right out of the pouch -- no goop, no PG issues -- so I guess there are some OTCs that aren't very heavy in PG afterall. That said though, I don't think Troost is a staple in most supermarkets.

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    I've read some very interesting articles on propylene glycol and the dangers and health risks of it. Most of the stuff I've read is relating to its use in hygienic products like soaps, shampoos and body moisturizers. I don't believe its completely safe, and I avoid using most typical hygienic products anyway and stick with a lot of organic products. I'm not to sure what the hazards would be in smoking it, seeing as I'm not inhaling, very little anyway. I guess the fact that I smoke a pipe at all is probably a similar risk 'level' as using the cosmetics . . .

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    OK ... but I will tell you this -- most, if not all processed pipe tobacco has some form of humicant, at least a small amount, and it is usually propylene glycol.

    Of course, it's virtually impossible to know how much, as pipe tobacco blends are all proprietary recipes that blenders hold close to the vest. I suppose, if someone had the inclination, they could research this and find something on line about it.

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    Interesting, I apologize for my ignorance in pipe tobaccos. I knew there were additives to an extent, obviously not as much as cigarettes, but I was hoping it didn't have too many preservatives, ha. Well, fair enough, there are a lot worse preservative type additives that could be used instead.

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    Loseth, I found this on another thread.
    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/preservatives-on-tobacco
    got some good info on there. Hope it helps

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    Thx bigboi, good informative link!

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    by drying out oct tobacs with those additvies, do they evaporate after drying? i always let otc tobacs dry out before smokig. they smoke good and dry for me after letting them set and dry for some time.

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