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How Important Is The "Nicotine Hit To Pipe Smokers?"

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  1. paulie66scandinavian

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    this was Interesting & Good conversation,
    Ps.One older Englishman told me as what he remembered, the majority of those mining town Blue collar'pipesmokers in his youth seemed to inhale the pipe smoke and mostly what they did smoke was Condor,St Brunos and some other G&H blends as Revor Plug

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    But why respond to my threads if they upset you? You can always ignore
    them.

    Great idea.

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    That is an extreme sensitivity...I can't imagine what your reaction to chew would be.

    Never tried and never interested me. I blame the nicotine, but it could very well be something else in certain tobaccos. For instance, I have same reaction/aversion to maduro wrapped cigars.

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    tuftony, are you Salted Plug come out of retirement?

    In response to the question, I smoke for the flavor, nicotine hit and even some oral fixation. Even though some day differently, I think if nicotine were totally removed from pipe tobacco, you'd have far, far fewer smokers. If all I wanted was the nicotine hit, I'd chew the nic gum. Cheaper and easier.

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    I smoke because I'm an asshole, the nicotine just keeps me sharp, or loose, can't remember, probably just need more tobacco. Everyone having a bully day? I can bench press a car and I'm the size of a tower! My finger was chiseled from stone!

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    But why respond to my threads if they upset you? You can always ignore
    them.

    Upset? How could I possibly be upset with a bunch of words strung together. I find such to be entertaining and, the give and take of the responses is stimulating for my thinking machinery. Responding keeps my fingers nimble for the guitar. But, when a thread, this one is but an example, really goes circular, it does get rather boring and tiring. I lose interest unless it is kept fresh by others.

    "It's quiet out there. Too quiet."

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    I have smoked maybe 10 cigarettes in my whole life and the last time was probably over 30 years ago. Every one of them was awful. So I was probably lucky not to take up cigarette smoking, particularly as I have led a pretty athletic life. My father has smoked since he was a teenager as did his father. My grandfather died at 87 and so did his brother (also a life long cigarette smoker). My father is still going at 74 although where he can smoke is severely limited now by government regulation.

    The OP’s question was how Important is the nicotine hit to pipe smokers. This made me ponder as to why I took up pipe smoking 6 months ago. I had just given up a sport and was sort of drifting. I was thinking of my grandfather one day and remembered he had a lot of pipes but I never saw him smoke one; only roll your own cigarettes. Then I searched pipes on the internet, probably found this forum and the rest is history. I am possibly lucky because I get a Nic hit from strong blends but they don’t incapacitate me. I quite enjoy it. So at this point in the pipe smoking journey I certainly look for it. Whether than will be the case in 6-12 months who knows. After getting rid of the only 2 aromatic blends I owned I just bought a new one.

    So I have given up a sport for a hobby. I enjoy the Nic hit, but I also enjoy the complexity of pipes, tobacco, the history and forum/social side pipe smoking offers. My friends and family think I am going to die tomorrow but I don’t think so. What is funny though is how few pipe smokers there are. In my life (50 years) I can only think of 3 close acquaintances who smoked a pipe. Now days the only ones close by are other New Zealand pipe smokers on this forum and I may never meet any of them. Pipe smokers are seriously a hidden relic.

    Glad I got that off my chest. Good evening to all.

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  8. cosmicfolklore

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    Here, let me fix the OP...

    We I know that inhalation draws the largest amount of nicotine into
    the body. Merely puffing, on the other hand, absorbs very little. This is why I smoke.

    If, as some claim, the "nic hit" is the main reason we smoke pipes
    we would all be inhaling and not puffing, and we aren't.

    I think the notion that we really smoke pipes for a "nic hit" is
    effectively refuted by the fact that most pipe smokers do not
    inhale.

    The post was worded to directly inflame those with different ideals. If you aren't going to accept other people's opinions, then stop poking a stick at the ideas of other people's The post starts off inflaming people with different ideals. Otherwise it just makes you look like an asshole here to start fights.

    Unless of course, you did want to drive wedges between beloved forum friends, like... Good , good, fight amongst yourselves, bah ha ha ha.

    Ultimately, you can only answer for you, and I can only answer for me. And, don't even start to propose that you know the mindset of all pipe smokers. We range from poor to rich, from good to bad, short tempered to patient, gentlemen to thugs. We all have only one common bond, and that is that we enjoy burn an addictive weed in a piece of wood, or stone, or metal. That's it. And, that's enough. You may or may not have been aware that most of these divisive posts that you've been making are all old hashes. Unless of course you are Saltedplug, and that would make sense too. Buttttttt... Saltedplug was a devoted strong nicotine blend smoker, so... I can only guess that you just jumped in and started with the divisive posts instead of joining already posted conversations because you were anxious to stir the pot.

    Michael
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    I can't help but completely agree with Cosmic on this last reply. This feels a lot like it happens every few months, too.

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    I seem to agree with most of what Warren says, which is too bad, as it seems much more fun to disagree with him.
    I always feel the nicotine when I smoke. Even though I'm used to cigarettes, after a bowl of any tobacco (except Grousemoor, is there even tobacco in it?), I feel filled with nicotine. I can smoke two consecutive bowls of light or medium blends, but then I need a break. And yes, nicotine is definitely one of the reasons I smoke.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    I seem to agree with most of what Warren says,

    Scary, that!

    as it seems much more fun to disagree with him.

    Often my purpose. Most times I'm trying get people to think a bit more deeply and question, rather than simply accept, most everything they read or hear.

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    Wow. This one is heavy and has gone a long ways. As a pipe smoker, I say the nic hit is important. I’m a lot like Goldilocks: too little and I’m unsatisfied, too much and I feel woozy (and go looking for a bed myself), but have found blends and techniques that make it mostly “just right.” The original question is one that is unanswerable, in that what is important to me may not be important to others. It’s a subjective question trying be sneaky and act like it’s objective.

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    Polygon flu.

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    This has proven to be an interesting thread, like many of them it comes unglued and splinters off rather quickly. I don’t smoke a pipe for the nicotine, but I love getting a good buzz from some tobaccos. I used to smoke cigarettes heavily, which is why I enjoy the sensation. It takes a good wallop of nicotine for me to feel it, though. I don’t chase it, but I do like a good buzz, especially at the end of the night. Like many others have stated, it’s really the flavors I chase. That’s what’s so great about pipe tobacco, the varieties are nearly without end.

    “There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion”.
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    I recently quit smoking a pipe, I mean vice, Because the nicotine was making my Arse Bleed. “Oops!” Wrong forum, I thought I was engaged in StrangeItemInBum.org. Sorry fellas. Moving on.

    It's not my position nor want to help another man. It's his responsibility to help himself, as where he can learn to dig down deep enough to save himself. -I. Kidd
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  16. oldbaccy

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    I smoke a pipe because I can. Sometimes I think it's because I don't give a $#%& about the consequences, cancer, death etc.
    This world isn't exactly heaven and vices help us to get by and cope with bs. Try eating some jerky and then smoke a bowl of your fav. baccy. Why? Because you can.

    As far as baccy goes, I've never found a blend with enough nicotine. Pirate Kake, 5 brothers, Ten Russians etc. Bowl after bowl. Just not enough nicotine. Then again, I might have a cigar lit and a pipe burning at the same time, again because I can.

    Smoke a pipe because you want to but to answer the question of how important is the nic hit, it depends on the individual who is smoking the pipe.

    They say 8 glasses of water is good for you but there's no way in the world I can drink that much water a day and feel ok.

    We're here to enjoy the hobby. A fun hobby it is (for now). When I'm done with it I'll move on to something else likely.
    Or I'll start caring about my health again. Naaa... Just light up another bowl of Ten Russians and read some more posts on the forum is what I'll probably do.

    If I rattled any chains, I'll apologize in advance but only because I can.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. gatorlope

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    Make that 8 cups of coffee instead of water and I think you have my daily minimum!

    As for nicotine, I don’t even feel like I get a hit. I just relax with my pipe and contemplate whatever comes to mind whether it’s something as meaningful as the grass growing or as meaningless as the days’ political shenanigans...

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  18. ryeguy

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    This has been an interesting and frustrating thread. I'll agree whole-heartedly with one person, then a few posts later, think he's an idiot.

    Anyway, my thoughts follow, offered with some trepidation:

    No one can speak for pipesmokers as a whole. Obviously.

    But I think it's just as obvious that pipe smoking wouldn't be a thing but for the effect of nicotine. When Europeans (or American Indians) first discovered tobacco, it became the rage (and a massive market) because of its physiological effects. Not because of its smell and not because of its taste.

    This is pretty much the same as coffee, tea, or hard alcohol. Sure, we love the smell and taste and ritual of these things. But they are only things that people do because of their chemical ability to influence us. The Brits wouldn't have spent fortunes during the 18th century to import leaves that, when steeped, yield a slightly discolored water that tastes like dried leaves unless those leaves also had caffeine in them.

    The first person to distill alcohol wouldn't have bothered to figure out how to make the stuff not taste like rubbing alcohol if it hadn't had an intoxicating effect.

    The same thing goes for tobacco. In its raw state, burning tobacco doesn't smell or taste exceptionally good. We've spent a lot of time figuring out how to cure it so it smells and tastes good. And we've spent a lot of time acquiring a taste for it. But we (collectively) expended this effort because small doses of nicotine are really pleasant. (Although large doses are very distinctly unpleasant and even fatal.)

    I don't doubt that many people are first attracted to the pipe because it smells good, or looks classy, or makes them feel like a hobbit. But, I don't think we would have pipes or pipe tobacco if smoking pipes didn't feel relaxing, and a key part of that feeling of relaxation is the nicotine in tobacco. Maybe there are people who really do just want the smell and ritual--the equivalent of decaf tea drinkers. But I seriously doubt that they are more than a tiny minority.

    PS. Does anyone who watches GoT root for a house that isn't Targaryen or Stark?

    PPS. I agree with Chesterton. Not everything that is pleasant is a vice. That is a peculiarly Puritanical streak in Americans.

    PPPS. While nicotine is addictive, liking the effect of nicotine obviously doesn't' entail a nicotine addiction.

    Posted 1 month ago #
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    Ryeguy, you hit the nail on the head, I must concur.

    I thought about this topic in length last night as I sat back with the churchwarden gourd calabash.
    Bowl after bowl of carter hall, pirate kake and a couple other blends.
    The mellowing effect and pleasant un-ghosted suttle flavor changes from blend to blend increased the more I smoked.
    I sat back with my eyes closed for a bit and sipped the pipe letting the smoke linger each time before blowing it out.
    Yup, there's nicotine in there but wasn't noticeable until about 3 hours of smoking time had accumulated.
    There never was a "hit", but there was most certainly a noticeable mellowing effect at the end of the session.
    I topped it off by having a snickers mini chocolate and hit the sack.

    Without the nicotine, I wouldn't buy the tobacco. The nic may not be readily apparent but I'm sure it's one of the reasons why I smoke the pipe.

    Enjoy your pipe guys. You're getting nicotine and it's doing something for ya, whether you get a hit or not may not be noticeable.

    Good controversial thread, not matter how you look at it. It got us thinking more about our hobby.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. macaroon

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    ryeguy, I don't care much who sits on the Iron Throne as long as Ser Davos survives to the end.

    I did not start smoking a pipe for the nicotine, but rather for the flavor, the diversion, and even just the aesthetics to some degree. Pipes can be works of art, after all. But once I smoked enough times to readily recognize the effects of nicotine, that certainly became a welcome factor. I'll even indulge in an occasional cigarette rolled with Dark Bird's Eye and smoked cigar/pipe-style as a tasty way to more efficiently deliver a pleasant nicotine buzz. Nicotine content now plays a minor role in my thought process when selecting a tobacco to smoke, though flavor certainly takes the front seat.

    That said, I rarely smoke more than a few times a week, and even more rarely more than once a day. I don't feel nicotine cravings, and I do not consider myself chemically addicted at all. Inhaling tobacco smoke feels awful to me, and I've only done it when I had a bit too much to drink--even that had to be accomplished through French inhalation, as inhaling directly was too harsh.

    In short: I didn't come to pipes and tobacco looking for nicotine and while I do appreciate its affects, it is generally of secondary importance. Inhaling would actually reduce the pleasure of pipe smoking for me due to physical discomfort and too much nicotine delivered too quickly for me to stomach

    "I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul"
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  21. ryeguy

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    Nicotine content now plays a minor role in my thought process when selecting a tobacco to smoke, though flavor certainly takes the front seat.

    Precisely. I don't look at the precise cafeine content of my tea when deciding what to buy, or the specific proof of my whiskey. Taste is far more important. I'm not trying single-mindedly to maximize cafeine or alcohol content. But I will never intentionally drink decaf tea or alcohol-free whiskey.

    I also don't do shots or enimas: my purpose isn't to get drunk.

    Posted 1 month ago #

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