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How has pipe smoking changed for us in a decade?

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  1. dunendain

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    I personally smoked cigars in the and 90s. It was 02 when I took up the pipe. I know the public's view of smoking changed since the 90s. I think more young people smoke pipes now.

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    Yes, from what I have observed, more young people are smoking pipes now, and of course there are still the more mature chaps (and ladies) still smoking pipes as well.

    Ironically, at the same time the public is becoming more "dis-educated", mislead and misinformed about smoking. It continues to be demonized with false and misleading information.

    The good news is that we have more pipe tobaccos to choose from then ever before.

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    +1 to what Kevin said.

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    When the People Fear the Government, There is Tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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    Ditto Kevin's observations. I think expanded use of the internet has really enriched the pipe smoking experience. We have access to more pipes and tobacco varieties than ever before. We have greater choices in selecting merchants. Everything is more accessible than it was back when our only resource was the local B&M. And we have more information about the whole field, from pipe issues to the tobacco leaf itself. Lastly, media like PipesMagazine.com has fostered a sharing and exchange of ideas and opinions through forums like this; and what would we do without TobaccoReviews.com?

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    cortezattic makes good points, but in the UK in 10 years we have seen a total ban on smoking in pubs clubs restaurants and workplaces - if they could they woould ban it in the street. A lot of well known long established British tobaccos such as Erinmore, Craven and Craven Aromatic have disappeared from supermarkets and even Dunhill has stopped manufacture under its own aegis - difficult to be optimistic - start cellaring say I!
    Gerry

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    What Gerry says about attitudes in the UK is true in Chicago too.

    I was just discussing this with my wife on Christmas Eve. At an American football game they ignite pre-game and half-time fireworks that produce acrid smoke so thick you can't see people in the stands across the field! Yet dare to light a cigarette and a group of security guards will bodily drag you out of the stands. P-C insanity.

    And the media at large encourages the mis-information to which Kevin refers. A while ago I heard that last year 600,000 people died of disease related to second-hand smoke. What double-blind controlled research project made that link? Yet, when I point out that my 87 yr. old mother has lived with smokers continuously since birth, I'm accused of using anecdotal evidence! Outrageous!

    But cheer up, there's hope. Remember, even James I couldn't permanently suppress the enjoyment of tobacco. God bless our plucky British brothers!

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    Because of internet access, I believe there is more fellowship amongst smokers. Also there's Ebay. A guy can buy a good estate pipe or a 30 yr. old can of tobacco with ease.

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    More pipes and less cigars. Much of the change has come about because of smoking restrictions. I used to go to steak houses and other restaurants and smoke cigars, and smoked pipes at home. As less places became available, less cigars were smoked. Since the Illinois smoking ban, there are no restaurants, so very few cigars get smoked. I smoke a pipe quite a bit in my car, but take few long rides where a cigar can be finished. At home, I smoke pipes quite a bit because I always did so, but few cigars, because the pipes call out for smoking more than the cigars.

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    You sit on a train or a station platform in London with an empty pipe in yer gob and a camera will spot you about 30 seconds before a voice comes over the PA with "passengers are reminded that they may not smoke" or similar.
    The pubs are using about 10k/w of exterior heating out the back to warm up the air in the garden!
    Smoking rooms at 'work' are long since a thing of a previous life and smokers huddle in groups in the pissin' rain outside. Clearly not in 'works' interest the heat the street! (Perhaps not a group of smokers - perhaps a 'PRIDE' of smokers!)
    I asked my doctor if I should give up my pipe. He said "I can't tell if you will live a long time but if you give up your pipe it will seem like a bloody long time!"
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    We should have smokeouts in the streets like the pot smokers do here in California.It seems to have worked. There are med clubs all over LA where you can go in and buy pot. Over 200 in LA alone.

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    I am not condoning anything illegal, mind you. I would like to see the tide change for tobacco smokers in this new decade ahead.

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    When I moved to California in the 90s, things here were very different. Cigar bars were everywhere. Smoking was allowed in bars, restaurants and airports. You could could smoke on the beach. I have good memories of me and my friend smoking good cigars, at sunset in Malibu. Not anymore. Smoking was outlawed in city, state, and national parks.

    Rights seem to fall in waves. In the 90s gun laws changed. Hunting laws. A hunter can no longer use lead in bullets. A buzzard may eat a jackrabbit and swallow a bullet.

    There is always hope. Happy smoke trails

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    I am not sure, but I don't think we had international pipe smokers day.

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    Ah dude don't get me started on that bloody lead ban. The science used to argue that lead - directly from slugs / shot mind - poisons watercourses and other animals is bollocks (pardon my language), and fabricated by bodies not disimilar from the anti-smoking lobby.

    I don't want to sound pessimistic, but the future is not that bright for us (smokers, and shooters too come to think of it). I still hear people harking on about "democracy" whilst our freedoms are slowly being taken away, on premises which seem well and truly bogus.

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    As much as I HATE smoking bans and the BS they use to push them, I am so happy that the cigar boom is over like Dunedain mentioned. (And I'm still predominately a cigar smoker) I tried to weed through all the negatives associated with the effects the anti-smokers have been able to perpetuate and the good news is that as smokers I think we're more educated and savvy then ever before. That means better blends and better products as the result of us demanding the most from our money and knowing exactly what we want. They can't push garbage down our throats like the "Cigar Boom" of the 90's.

    I agree that the internet has brought us closer together as smokers and the information we share is accessible at the touch of a button. There has never been a better time, or a worse time to be a smoker. Hell, now I'm confused. Gonna go light up.

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    Very well put soldier.

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    When you take away things like hunting, and shooting targets: Whats next? Fishing, archery, fencing... I remember when the fox hunting protesting started. People that came into the U.K. from other cultures, or inner city people: What do they care if they destroy hundreds of years of tradition and culture.
    I can't imagine what 18th century scholars would thought about public smoking bans.

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    Exactly Mick. No offence to any city folk here, but fox hunting was something only understood by country folk. Aside from foxes being a bloody menace, the hunts (i.e. with hounds) were about animals, people and tradition - a day in which the village could get together as a community.

    The problem with "anti's", as a friend and I recently concluded, is that they tend to be anti-everything, whether it be whale hunting, shooting, fishing, smoking, fur, you name it, they are "anti" it.

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    The Anti's remind me somewhat of Marlon Brando's character in The Wild One. When asked what he was rebelling against: He said, "what you got?". They think its the 'in' thing to do.

    Destroying old traditions, will cause more harm than good. imho

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    Don't mean to go off here but just because somebody shouts and stomps their feet the loudest doesn't mean they should get their way every time they want. Especially when they are backing their ridiculous claims with junk science. The tobacco bans are one example but the self righteous planet savers can be seen making footprints on many aspects of our everyday lives that they really should have no say in. If you don't like that the fact that fast food is fattening, don't eat it. If you think soda is bad for you, don't drink it. If you don't like alcohol, stay out of the bar. If you think Fox News is slanted, don't watch it. If you hate Rush Limbaugh, stop listening to his show. And if you don't like the smell of pipes and cigars then go somewhere that doesn't allow smoking. Stop trying to eradicate something just because maybe someday you may swing by the local tavern and God forbid have to deal with that wretched smell of smoke. Change the channel, change the radio, read a different paper, eat better food, stop drinking, slit your wrist but stop trying to control the rest of the planet because it's not up to you to do so. Since when did not liking something give you the right to ban anyone else from enjoying it. As a country we have allowed the ones with the loudest voice to continually get their way far to often even though it's not a majority consensus on the propaganda they are pushing. The old adage of the squeaky wheel gets the grease was to quiet it down, but it's about time to silence the squeaky wheels so we can finally live or lives in peace by making our own grown up decisions. I will eat a bacon double cheeseburger and have a smoke to that.

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    It seems like the West is catching more propaganda than the East did, during the Cold War. There is a purpose.

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    Wow, cigarsoldier, I could not agree more. Very well put indeed. Unfortunately, even though many of us feel like that, there are more powerful interests that get the vote. So much for choice, democracy, and resistance.

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    Cheer up , Prohibition was a failure and remember if it were not for tobacco we would be driving on dirt .America home of the brave and semi free .

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    Anybody have a link or an email article they can shoot to me. When I hear that "young People" are smoking pipes - makes me feel like I have been living in a cave for the last decade. I have personally enjoyed the the quietude and the peace of smoking a pipe. Since I started smoking one in my mid thirties - I was becoming more introspective and relaxed. These are two qualities that I did not possses when I was a "young person." So "young people" smoking pipes does not compute Will Robinson

    I used to enjoy a good cigar too. However, after California went nuts with the taxation I found myself finding more solace with my pipe - which I enjoy even more - it was very tiring hanging out with a bunch Mr. Big Business Men bragging about the stock market and what a killing they made, how much their bloody cigar costs and blah, blah, blah. I take great solace in smoking a bag of tobacco that lasts me a week - as oposed on spending the same amount on 1 cigar and having to listen to a bunch bs at the local CIGAR and tobacco shop.

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    clanobucklin - Anybody have a link or an email article they can shoot to me. When I hear that "young People" are smoking pipes

    Here you go. This was music to my ears when we launched the site last year.

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    I don't have anything to add.
    Except maybe the following.
    3 years ago cigarette taxes climbed so high here, I opted to go exclusively with my pipes. I found that I smoke less, and enjoy more.
    The only reason I ever smoked cigarettes was for the convenience.
    Sometimes a pipe can be a bloody-Pain. But, the rewards are greater, and I'm nowhere nearly as stressed as I used to be.

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    Limit all US politicians to two terms:

    One in office;

    One in prison.

    Illinois already does this.

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    Raising 2 sons over the last 20 years, my wife's big fear was that they would smoke cigarettes, because her mother died at 52 of emphysema. I cannot imagine her fearing that they would take up pipe smoking. She has seen the positive affect piping has had on me. I am a much more relaxed person. When I get stressed, she always says, go smoke you're pipe and relax. The world has many dangers for young people today. In my opinion, as long as they are old enough, pipe smoking is not one of those dangers.

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