How Do I Tell When The Smoke Is Truly Finished?

Log in

SmokingPipes.com Updates

Watch for Updates Twice a Week

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

PipesMagazine Approved Sponsor

Status
Not open for further replies.

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
0
Hi there guys, big hello from Ireland, I kind of have a novel problem; when smoking a cigar or dare I say it, cigarette, it's easy to tell by eye when you've physically reached the end of your smoke, be it butt or nub. With a pipe you have no judgement by eye as to where your tobacco has burned down to and its harder to gauge. I've been 15 minutes or so into a smoke and found myself thinking ''hmm, I wonder is there actually tobacco still burning here or is it just char and coals I'm relighting?'' It's hard to tell by taste for me as I'm a newbie. any little tips are appreciated, cheers.

 

dervis

Lifer
Jan 30, 2012
1,597
1
Hazel Green AL
Pipe smoking is just about enjoyment. If you are done, you are done. Even if it was coals and ash , if for some reason you like setting them on fire and smoking them then go for it.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
60,459
tonguebite, you get clear signals from your pipe. First, most of us relight at least once or more as we smoke a bowl,

and that involves tamping the tobacco down with a tamper, pipe tool, pipe nail or (my dad's favorite) a finger. You

can feel if there is some tobacco left each time you tamp it. When you get down to a third of a bowl, unless it's a

giant pipe, that's usually about the end of the tobacco. Sometimes that little fraction of a bowl won't relight, or

won't stay lit. Don't be cheap; give it up! Also, toward the end of a bowl, you'll often get a little bite even with

a smooth blend, so that's a good signal too. Nonetheless, I'm often surprised to discover how little burnable tobacco

is left. Often, there is almost no dottle (unburned tobacco, not ash). A lot of this pipe smoking is just practice.

Once you have the fundamentals, the pipe will teach you. Wanted to mention, I've been to Ireland twice, once for

a drive-around plus Dublin, and a second time, just Dublin itself. What a great country. I savored all the surprises.

Never expected palm trees that far north, from the gulfstream I guess. And four or five or more distinct weather

changes a day, from fog, to sunny, to drizzle, to gale. Your window seldom presents the same scene twice.

The pubs, the shrines, the sheep, the gorsh, and the Cliffs of Mor. Pardon my spelling. It's just a sweet scene

that speaks to the soul. I have my Peterson pipes to remind me, including the Around the World commemorative

for Ireland, which is a red tone bulldog. Love that Guinness. I always give 'em time to draw it slow.

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
0
Cheers mso, I suppose your dad has a point with the finger though, packing down with a finger would give a far better feel for how the pipe is packed as opposed to packing just using a tamper.

 

spartan

Lifer
Aug 14, 2011
2,963
7
If the charred tobacco at the bottom tastes good...keep going til you don't get any more smoke.
I usually stop before I hit the bottom. The relights for me really damage the flavor. If you can smoke to the bottom without relights it will taste great all the way down. YMMV

 

murf

Can't Leave
Mar 1, 2013
446
1
honestly, I very rarely re-light. I just don't like the taste after I apply the flame to tobacco again. But, it took me awhile to figure out just how to pack, tamp, and puff. You need to find out what works for you. That being said, with a new pipe, I would be careful about re-lighting if the tobacco is low. You don't want your pipe to get too hot.
It's definitely a learning experience, and everybody's different. I'm still learning new things

 

redbeard

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 2, 2013
841
4
:rofl:Not sure if this was suggested or advised but its what I do. My pipe tool is a tamper/poker/pipe knife and as stated above I tamp and if it goes out I use my poker and break it up a bit, tamp down lightly and then dump the ash and relight. Once I am getting closer to the bottom f the bowl and it goes out I can use my poker and just by the feel tell how much unburied tobacco is left. Just takes some practice to tell if your poker is going through ash or pushing passed unburied baccy. I hope that helped... If not make a see through pipe? :rofl:

 

waznyf

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 24, 2012
742
48
29
Texas
Welcome!

You are done when you decide to be done. If the smoke is no longer pleasing you because it has become bitter or for some other reason, then pitch it and start over.

I am usually done when it gets too bitter to enjoy or I am sucking ash into my mouth and burning it LOL

Great question, as it is very hard to tell sometimes and I face this problem as well sometimes.
-Frank

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
0
Wanted to mention, I've been to Ireland twice, once for

a drive-around plus Dublin, and a second time, just Dublin itself. What a great country. I savored all the surprises.
That's a nice tale to tell the grandkids! yeah our country has its good points and bad points (the price of tobacco cough cough). Glad you had a memorable experience here.
I am usually done when it gets too bitter to enjoy or I am sucking ash into my mouth and burning it LOL

Great question, as it is very hard to tell sometimes and I face this problem as well sometimes.
Thanks Frank, yup, think it's the determination to get every bit of tobacco out of it that makes me similar in that regard lol.

 

hfearly

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 11, 2012
822
2
Canada
Your smoke is truly finished when you suck up pure ash, or what might happen even before that, then you've burned a hole into the heel of your pipe :)

 

allan

Lifer
Dec 5, 2012
2,429
7
Bronx, NY
Welcome to the forum, Tonguebite.
This is a good question, and frankly now that you mention it, I've wondered it myself!
I find that I don't mind relighting, even after several hours if I've been interrupted for some reason. But, I've often relighted cigars after a time without being bothered by that either.
My experience has also been that I've dumped tobacco that could have been smoked, maybe even a quater bowl if it has become bitter and unpleasant. It just is.
I would say, don't worry about it. Tobacco for pipes is so cheap compared to cigars, and cigarettes, for that matter.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
64
Northern New Jersey
In theory it comes with practice. Usually, for me, when I approach the bottom fifth or sixth of my bowl, a distinct change in flavor profile occurs. Slightly more rank, and vegetal. This alerts me to the fact that I'm approaching the end of my smoke. At that point I'll tamp, and if I'm nearly at the base of the chamber, why then, I'll call it a day, and clean the dottle. A few blends, like Escuudo, Pirate Kake, Westminster ... don't do this and I'll smoke these till it goes out naturally due to the depletion of combustable material in the bowl. But these smokes are the exception.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,249
57,280
66
Sarasota Florida
I usually know when I am done after I have sucked in a mouthful of hot ash.
Seriously though, that does happen more than I would like to admit. I keep smoking because the flavor is good, when it is not good, I dump the bowl and in most cases there is nothing but ash left. I smoke flakes exclusively and the flavors get more intense and concentrated the lower the bowl goes, so I am chasing flavor as I go lower.

 
Apr 26, 2012
3,380
5,557
Washington State
When I'm near the bottom and I start to taste the ash I'll dump the top layer of ash out then give the bowl a stir to bring unsmoked tobacco to the top. When it tastes like ash again I'm done. Another indicator is when you have to relight frequently as the charred tobacco won't keep lit well.

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
0
Have you used a filter to maybe alleviate the issue Harris? I know maybe you might lose a touch of flavour, but would stop the ash problem lol.

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
20,249
57,280
66
Sarasota Florida
tonguebitepipecleaner, I would much rather put up with a little ash once in a while than use a filter and lose a lot of flavor. When I smoked cigarettes, the difference in flavor between an unfiltered and filtered cig was huge so I am sure it is the same with pipes. Also the thought of a filter all nasty with tar and nicotine just kind of skeeves me out. lol

 

tonguebitepipecleaner

Might Stick Around
Apr 26, 2013
51
0
tonguebitepipecleaner, I would much rather put up with a little ash once in a while than use a filter and lose a lot of flavor. When I smoked cigarettes, the difference in flavor between an unfiltered and filtered cig was huge so I am sure it is the same with pipes. Also the thought of a filter all nasty with tar and nicotine just kind of skeeves me out. lol
I know what you mean, but for example I smoked a box or two of just average Hamlet cigars once upon a time, non-filtered, thinking it was going to be better than filtered for the same reasons. But filtered was, on the whole, a more enjoyable smoke. Much cooler, could smoke more of the cigar, and while yes it lost a tiny bit of flavour, it also took out some of the nasty flavours one gets towards the end. And better the gunk and tar be in a filter than my mouth. I'm yet to use a filter for a pipe, but I imagine there is just that remnant tabbo that if you put a filter in a pipe, it may as well be a cigarette.

 
Aug 14, 2012
2,872
123
Stick your finger in the bowl. If it gets burnt, the smoke is still going.>>>>> The smoke is over when after careful tamping, you can't light it anymore.

 
Status
Not open for further replies.