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Help Dating an Estate Dunhill

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  • Started 4 years ago by NOLA Cajun
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  1. tobyducote

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    Guys I found this estate Dunhill in an Antique store yesterday for next to nothing...I'm am having difficulty dating it....I will post what I've found along the sides and pictures to follow...it appears to be a natural finish..

    Made in England (suffix 4 underlined after D in England)
    Inner Tube 123 (stamped close to the bowl)
    Patent No. N 30006 / 15

    Other Side

    A (possible lower case c next to the A but can't make it out for certain). Dunhill
    London

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    I also found a great 4 dot Sas...with it...those pics in another post

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    Guys I found this estate Dunhill in an Antique store yesterday for next to nothing...I'm am having difficulty dating it.

    Did you buy it flowers first?

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

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    From what you are saying, 1924. Look closely at the patent, is it Patent No. 11308006/15? See an example here, of a 1925 pipe,

    http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/dunhill/patent1.html#hwe17

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    What a great find!! Just a quick guess would be 1924, but will need more info to date it for sure. Here's a good resource: http://www.loringpage.com/attpipes/dundate.htm
    The little c after the A is called a stop-- its actually an "o". Enjoy that beauty- might be worth it to send it off for a mild restoration, doesn't look like it will need much.
    Congrats!!

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    It appears that your pipe may be from the early 1950's and is a group 4 size. Here is some info that may be of help to you.

    http://www.rdfield.com/Articles/A%20Dunhill%20Pipe%20Dating.htm

    Blowin' smoke since 1970.
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    Thanks guys...yes the patent could be 11 instead of N...

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    Curious to hear what you determine. That fact that it is stamped "Inner Tube" could indicate a much earlier pipe.

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    So is it a natural finish or is it just faded bc of age? I've never seen a Dunhill with a natural finish before

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    Northern...I tried flowers and chocolates...didn't budge lol

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    My guess, and I'm no expert, is that the finish has worn, faded over time. If that is a 90 year old pipe the finish has likely deteriorated.

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    "So is it a natural finish or is it just faded bc of age? I've never seen a Dunhill with a natural finish before"

    Yes definitely faded. As said above, the Ao is the Bruyere finish. You can get some pictures of examples, also at piprphil,

    http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/dunhill/bruyere1.html

    "Bruyere, the orignal finish produced, and a big part of developing and marketing the brand. It was the only finish from 1910 until 1917. A dark redish brown stain. The Bruyere was a smooth finish with a deep red stain, obtained through two coats, a brown understain followed by a deep red."

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    Superb find! I doubt the finish has faded as others said. I have seen numerous old Dunhills and likely the finish was removed unfortunately. It can be restained. I made a color match stain for the old Bruyere finish and it turned out pretty good. If you like I can give you the recipe or I can stain and restore it for you. You can see the resto I did here: Near 100 Year Old Dunhill Restoration

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    Nice job on that restore Sam....my next question was who would you guys recommend for this restore? I've done other estate pipes I've found but I don't want to risk damaging this old Dunhill

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    The stamping a are VERY light...I had to use a pretty powerful magnifying glass to read them...I don't want to take a chance of wearing them any farther....the stem is perfect just really oxidized

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