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  1. tbradsim1

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    I just read the article that a woman was cited for driving on railroad tracks because her GPS told her too. What happened to maps, used them all my life, more so when Hotshotting. People are letting machines take away their survival skills. Our country road always confuses delivery driver and they end up 5 or so miles away from us, now I tell the drivers, call me when you turn off the main road. People use your brain or it will rot! oldcdgr

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    I was navigating around New Jersey countryside at night, with my old eyes, and the GPS lady told me to turn right at such-and-such road. I didn't see a road, a sign, nor any curbing or any other indication there was a road where "she" said, or anywhere else in the vicinity. Reminded me of the old Groucho Marx line about, "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" I sure as hell didn't make any turn.

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    And, all self-navigating cars should be immediately smashed with sledge hammers. Lets nip this in the bud. Just smash every one of them that we come across. We cannot allow this idiocy to take root and grow.

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    I use Gazetteer maps for each state. Low res topo maps that are perfect for getting where you need to be.

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    One could also look out the windshield and see ... RR tracks? We're on the freaking tracks! Some people are simply too stupid to live. There is no such thing as IFR (IDR?) for automobiles.

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    I don't use GPS as I have it on the reliable that they are Putin minions.

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    You have to use Google maps. That's what the NSA uses to track us, so you know it's the best technology they can buy with our money.

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    I own Gazetter maps for the four states I travel to frequently and it really paid off a couple months ago. I generally type and address in Google Maps and off I go, BUT in rural areas, especially in NV, AZ, CA and UT Google Maps doesn't delineate dirt roads from paved.

    It matters. I was heading to an assignment in rural northern NV and an accident clogged the two lane highway so I checked Google Maps for an alternate. It gave me a way around. Five miles of paved road followed by 75 miles of dirt road that included a six mile stint where I competed with giant haul trucks through the Cortez mine area. I did not come back that way.

    Instead of having them under the back seat, they are now in the back pocket of the passenger seat where I can grab them.

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    Flamin things ought to be banned. More trouble than there worth.

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    I use my iPhone GPS to get pretty much everywhere that I don't know how to get to without it. It has never failed me - not once, in years of use. Like most things, it's a tool. I still use its best companion and regulator - my brain!

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    Why use a newfangled contraption such as a map? Wouldn't a compass be more than adequate?

    Personally, I love GPS systems. If someone is so stupid they would drive on RR Tracks regardless of what the GPS says, they shouldn't have a license to drive. Go to a new metropolitan area with your map in hand during rush hour with no navigator to help and let me know how you like that versus a GPS.

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    GPS banned? No way! They are a great tool for thinning the herd judging from the number of people driving off docks, cliffs, etc.

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    I am getting one (a trucking one) as a control measure for my 13' 7" tall fifth wheel. I'd hate to get x miles down a road and find a R/R bridge I can't pass under. Turning a 43' 10" long fiver around is no joke.

    I'm all for burning self driving cars, though. They are voodoo. VOODOO!

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    I use a GPS in a car if it is equipped with one, but I never trust it 100%. If they load off a DVD/CD in the vehicle somewhere, those always have to be updated, but even one updated last week, can throw you off if a road gets closed next week or a new highway opens just after. Had it happen to me before.

    I use google maps on my phone for better accuracy, but even those get it wrong from time to time. I trust my gut way more than any electronic device and it's saved me time more than once. I use the GPS to get me in the relative area, but no GPS will ever be as good as your own eyes and common sense, but the latter seems to be dwindling down a good bit this day and age.

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    Driving on a railroad track is a good way of culling the herd.

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    I think you can develop all the technology you want for self driving cars, but you'll never get rid of dumb cars and dumb people.

    There will always be accidents.

    What is needed is a driver's seat with a built in Cranial Retraction Assistance Device to pull people's head out of their asses while driving.

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    Public transportation, when it is done right, is pretty good, rather than individually navigated cars. You still have wrecks, some gruesome, but by in large, trains, busses, ferries, and subways can haul a lot of passengers where they intend to go. Air travel is still in the proving stages, but I've been worked over by all forms of public trans. The old train line downtown was the easiest and best way to go, light years better than driving. I keep wondering if someone could do a "Walmart" job on rural bus service. I'm not quite sure how it could be made to work, but if it did, it would bring rural places within reach of the rest of the population without compromising the countryside that much.

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    My wife directs my driving. "Watch out..look where you are going " beats me how she can see so much from the back seat

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    I think GPS is a great tool. If you don't want to use it it is your loss.

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    My wife directs my driving. "Watch out..look where you are going "

    My mum once tried the same thing when I was starting to drive. So, I firmly told her, "mum, you either shut up or walk home": she shut up. Didn't try to control my driving ever again.

    You have to use Google maps.

    Ever heard of the ones driving into a river following Google maps? The bridge was out. The app doesn't update daily, you know? I've learnt this the hard way, and ended up wasting time trying to find an alternate route in a strange city all because Poogle maps didn't account for construction taking place.

    Oh, and Google's projection is wrong too. Might not be too much of an issue in the tropics, but as you keep going north...

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    I had heard of Darwin Awards but am thankful that I have been led to their online repository. Thank you, sir!

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    I love maps and charts, but find a bit of common sense with car's built in nav. and Apple maps keeps me going in the right direction. The iPhone's transit section is also very useful. Showing current traffic jams is also good but not great.

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    I use differential GPS as a tool in my job. It is no loss whatsoever to choose not to use it when I leave work. Not using paper maps, now that is a loss on your part. It is always fun to watch those without map reading skills try to find their way when their phone is dead.

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    At the risk of having my head handed to me by a certain sub-group of forum members...you notice that it was a woman who was cited for driving on the railroad tracks...eh?

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    GPS built in, google et all are great.
    But if you take a trip. guarantee they will mess up at least once.
    Saw the arches in St. Louis 5 times the last time we drove though before Rand Mcnally saved us.
    Always have a Rand road atlas with us.

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    GPS isn't perfect. Maps sure aren't when you consider all the construction and how often they're updated. If you have a detached Garmin GPS unit, you need to regularly update it. I guess same is true if you have one built into your vehicle.

    What really helps is to combine some common sense with GPS utilization. I have traveled extensively in my life and relied on maps for years. I can assure you, there's no danger of me trashing my GPS unit and going back to maps. Not even close. Not even remotely close. But if you like maps, have a happy.

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    Hoosier, I agree! But...
    I still have a compass.

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    I like going the wrong way just to see what the GPS comes up with.

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    I do too, just have to mute her

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    I haven't used a true GPS for years - those maps are generally outdated from day 2. Folks rarely update their GPS maps (or the maps in their in-car NAV systems). I did put over 750,000 logged miles on my last Garmin (and sold it to a guy who loves it!)

    I switched to WAYZ a few years ago and its been my mainstay (only time I don't use it is when we drive to New Orleans, WAYZ currently won't do that long of a trip). Those maps are continually updated. I recently saw a Lincoln tv commercial and they are now installing WAYZ as their NAV's

    But, last week, I78 in PA was locked down and pulled out an old map to figure a route around the accident, it pays to be prepared!

    If you have your GPS turned on your phone (as required by all mapping) you are definitely being tracked. We've been inundated lately with companies that want to sell us the habits of fast food customers. Their analytics can show us all the other places our guests choose to eat. Scary stuff!

    Al

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    I still use and love a map as you can see the big picture. But I do think Gps is safer, can just drive and listen to turns..No more map across steering wheel while driving.

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    No technology is perfect though. It just mere tools to aid us when we don't know how to get to specific places. Help me a lot, but I don't relying on it too much. Sometimes, it's better to ask people in vicinity just to make connection with new people

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    Sometimes, it's better to ask people in vicinity just to make connection with new people

    What if it's a village of cannibals?

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    Duane, I can't drive to the Sentinel Islands.

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    We cannot allow this idiocy to take root and grow.
    Way to late for that...

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    Duane, I can't drive to the Sentinel Islands.

    Way to late for that...

    I need sleep

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    I learned to use maps extensively in the military. Good to see the big picture and to back up the gizmos.

    Now, however, I deliver 50-90 boxes a day to residential addresses routed by my company's phone app to Google maps.

    Drop and run, like an amped out rat in a maze. I rarely know where I am exactly and just follow the digital directives.

    There's no way I could plot and execute the number of destinations I do daily on a paper map. My production would be cut in half, at least.

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    Google Maps is fabulous. The apps on car nav systems I never use.

    I remember the Dark Ages when the first Garmin GPS systems were $600. I had to reroute across Alligator Alley in South Florida (I 75) due to a huge fire. I kept getting directed to smaller and smaller roads and finally a dirt road on a levee. There was a big Lincoln parked on the levee- I pulled up beside him and he rolled down the window. "Garmin GPS?"..."Yep"....We finally sorted it out and got back to a main road together....

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    A few years ago, my wife was driving through a long construction zone. They had put up a temporary road, while working on the main road. For miles, the GPS was begging my wife to return to the road.

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    GPS wrong turn into a lake.

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    What if it's a village of cannibals?

    Goodbye Pipemagazine.com then

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    Ever heard of the ones driving into a river following Google maps?

    Mine constantly tells me to turn left into the River where a car ferry was located twenty years ago, it was replaced by a bridge a short distance away. I use my GPS often but always like to refer to a paper map for a larger overview.

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    I was driving to a meeting a few weeks ago in one of the more remote parts of my county, and unbeknownst to me, the main road that I always use to get there was closed for construction, so I used Google maps to find a new route. Ten minutes later, I was driving my F-150 across a creek!

    The new route had taken me down a gravel road that had a "low water" creek crossing of the sort that farmers use when driving their tractors across creeks that run between fields. The gravel road just ends at the creek, and starts again at the other side. Luckily, I was in my truck rather than a car, or I wouldn't have been able to make it. I made it to the meeting on time.

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    If you live in New Jersey, where highway signs seems to be designed to get you lost, having Apple and/or Google maps on one's phone is a must.

    Now, if someone would only invent an app that eliminates traffic jams at the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels and the George Washington Bridge.

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    Whether maps or apps, I just wish that there was an easier way to navigate across Georgia without having to go through Atlanta. I would rather have a kidney gnawed out by badgers than have to drive through Atlanta. I can't even adequately emphasize enough hatred for THAT city's traffic issues.

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    Cosmic, I concur. You should never have to live in that traffic hell hole. I am so glad that I can now count the cars I pass on one hand when driving around the village.

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    The reason you Southern Gents think Atlanta is so bad is because you apparently haven't driven much in places like Chicago or Detroit during rush hour. Or had to get to the airport in LA in 2 hours when you're 30 mile away in what seems like 2 dozens lanes of traffic with motorcycles zipping by your left and right. I have to go through Atlanta 3 or 4 times per year and I work very, very hard to do so at a some time other than rush hour. Other than rush hour, I haven't had much of a problem.

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    I lived for two years in Chicago and one summer in LA, and I still think Atlanta is a disaster. In my last trip to NC last weekend, we had to endure eight lanes of traffic getting reduced to one lane going through downtown, and then back up to eight lanes again. The brain-dead morons that run the GDOT must sniff glue before making any big decisions.

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    We go around Atlanta, not through it.

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