Ghosting One's Mouth
I am becoming acquainted with Erinmore Flake, and quite like it. However - tonight everything I have smoked thereafter has that Erinmore taste! My favorite Escudo? bit of Erinmore taste. Angler's Dream, good neutral burley? Erinmore taste. Different pipes, mind you? Omg. Anyone experience this or is it just me? Am I destined to taste only Erinmore topping for life? :O
I can't say I've ever had this happen before.
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Never had that happen with tobacco before, but food/drink I have. I'd save that blend for the end of the day.
I've smoked a lot of Erinmore Flake (EF) and pop a tin for the rotation as the mood suits me. I found the Erinmore Mixture a totally different blend and did not like that.
While Erinmore Flake does have a, shall I say, more aggressive topping than any of the flakes I smoke (none are aromatics), like the Sothron and Uber, I like the change of pace.
I do taste sweet fruit, but it's not overbearing and certainly not like Juicy Fruit gum as some reviews claim. It is most definitely not a Lakeland, has no Tonkin essence, it burns clean and dry and does not ghost my pipes.
As to whether it ghosts the mouth or not, while I've never experienced it from EF myself, I can see that happening to someone as we're all different and some have a more astute ability to taste flavors long after finishing a bowl. I think every puffer retains a certain lingering aftertaste after finishing a smoke -- for me, a good mouthwash seems to help when I want to get rid of it -- but I usually like it lingering on the tongue.
I experienced "mouth ghosting before" with the dreaded Hobbit's Weed. Everything tasted like Hobbit's Weed for days. Brushing teeth, different pipes, nothing could exorcize that demon for a while.
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I smoked some Vermont meat candy 17 hours ago and I have brushed my teeth, eaten a meal, as well as some beef jerky and when I breath heavily I can still taste it.
Man I'm still ghosted. Smoked half a dozen bowls today and still taste Erinmore.
I like it.
But not when I'm smoking Escudo
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I had that happen to me with Erinmore as well, and while I liked
the change of pace with this flake, I didn't like the heavy/mouth coating
if you will...so Erinmore really isn't for me
I had that happen after spending the weekend with the wife at her dads place we got pretty drunk on tequila and smoked several several bowls of my mixed up left over jar and I had that taste for days it got kinda old but it finally went away... sooooo good news its no permanent
Never had that happen with Erinmore or any other tobacco. And I've smoked quite a few tins of EF since I got over my revulsion from the two times I heaved all over the pavement because of Erinmore back in 1974.
Underneath the reek of teenage harlot, it's actually a very pleasant flake. And sipped slowly, the fruit-loop dressing just fades off, contributing little more than a faint increase in the sweetness.
I use to chew Copenhagen Straight and smoke my pipes. Not at the same exact time but, you catch my drift. Well I quit the chew and now all the pipe tobacco that I smoked had a change of flavor on me. Some for the worst some for the better. So yea I had some ghosting.
All tobacco can have that effect to one degree or another.
You just won't notice it unless you smoke infrequently.
If you always have a pipe in hand, you will never tell the difference...
Latakia and OTC blends are the worst offenders in my books.
Depending on the blend, an unpleasant ashy aftertaste can linger with latakia and the PG/flavourings from OTCs can stick around for much longer than I'd like in a really sickly mouth-coating way...
I find the straight Virginias are the cleanest tasting and that is one of the reasons why they are my favourites.
Sothron, this "mouth ghosting" is the reason why I often spend periods of time smoking one blend exclusively. Then there is no crossover of flavours and you get a better expression of the one blend and can appreciate it without interference from other tobaccos...
I had a big bowl of Erinmore Flake last nite for the first time. Smoked for about an hour or better. By the end of the bowl I was nauseous and light headed. I was enjoying it until this happened and this morning I had to peel my tongue off of the roof of my mouth and been dry all day. Might have to go with baby bowls of this brand.
Erinmore Flake is no light weight in flavor or nicotine, but not the fullest flake or the flake with the most Vitamin N, IMO. Peterson's University Flake, Pete's Irish Flake, and certain flakes, plugs & ropes in the Sam Gawith and Gawith & Hoggarth stables, in that order, are more potent.
I think if you swish for a couple of minutes with some Biotene mouth wash after smoking it will get rid of any residual flavors.
I found the Erinmore flake to taste like Juicy Fruit( I love Juicy Fruit) and it was just too much for me after a while. I like sweet but it was cloyingly so to my tastes. I find Peterson University Flake to be much more subdued topping wise compared to the Erinmore. I probably should age some Erinmore to see if the sweetness subsides after a while, it really is a quality flake that I enjoyed but it just got to be too much sweetness for me. I did smoke it in a group 3 Dublin thinking a larger pipe would be too much. It is interesting to note that a friend of mine smoked some from his tin and did not find it that sweet at all, I am wondering if maybe I got a batch that wasn't mixed as well as it could have been and mine had too much casing on it.
Ernmore Flake is, IMO, quite sweet. Not in an aromatic sort of way, but compared to University Flake, I would say Erinmore Flake has twice as much of a similar fruity sweetness.
While I have not aged it myself, I have smoked some 3-4 year old current blend EF and to my taste, the fruitness had subsided yet the blend itself was more mellow and noticeably sweeter. IIRC, Bradley "cooks" unopened tins of EF and likes it a lot; the cooking process is supposed to mirror long-term aging, to a degree.
I have smoked the original Murray's Erinmore Flake -- I still have some of that in a jar and an unopened tin in the cellar. The original EF is, to my taste, considerably more flavor enhanced that the current EF and it definitely contains Lakeland "essence" -- fruity yes, but also a bit of the flowery herb flavors as well -- enough so that it should be smoked in a dedicated pipe, IMO.
Earlier, rothnh said
...I think every puffer retains a certain lingering aftertaste after finishing a smoke ...I usually like it lingering on the tongue.
That lingering aftertaste is what I've been calling the blend's "finish", borrowing from the wine & cheese worlds. Is this correct usage?
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I haven't smoked Erinmore in many years, so I can't comment on the aftertaste of it. I smoke English blends and lately, quite a bit of Virginia and Vapers and some Burley flakes, so that's what my perspective is based on.
The blend that left me with the strongest aftertaste is Penzance. After smoking my first bowl of it last week, I still had the taste of it on my tongue the next morning.
I wonder if Erinmore is as good a match with a corncob as Burley. Anybody have an opinion on that?
Think I'll get some Erinmore Flake and see if it is.
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I HAVE TO SAY I'M OUT ON HAVING AN AFTERTASTE LASTING FOR DAYS. TONGUE IS STILL DRIED OUT AND PUNKY. THINK I'LL DONATE THIS CAN TO A FRIEND TO EXPERIMENT WITH AND GO BACK TO MY PETERSON SPECIAL RESERVE AND BRIGHAM MIXTURES.
I can't say this has ever happened to me, but I have noticed component tobaccos in different blends. Years ago, after my first foray into English blends, for a couple of weeks everything I smoked that had the slightest bit of latakia in it tasted like Charatan's English mixture. And I can easily distinguish the taste of a virginia especially in about anything I smoke that that uses it, same with Perique. Burley itself is much harder for me to notice unless it's a blend that's mostly burley. Maybe that's what you're picking up on (the taste of VA's), and your brain is associating it with Erinmore.
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