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Gawith Aromatics and Ghosting

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  1. mtwaller

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    I’m sure it’s been covered before, sorry to beat a long dead horse, but I’m new to these Lakeland blends. I now have Ennerdale Flake, Firedance Flake, and Grousemoore. I’ve no experience with these blends, and I have two questions. 1) Will all of these blends ghost a pipe otherwise used for straight tobacco blends? I never smoke aromatics or heavily flavored tobaccos. 2) Could all of these various blends be smoked in the same pipe without ill effect? Or would these widely varying flavors amalgamate into a casserole of nonsense?

    Basically I’m wondering if I should buy another pipe dedicated for these blends... my pipes now are dedicated Straight Va, Va/Per, 2 for Dark Fired flakes, English, and Balkan. I’d hate to muck up the dedicated pipes with something gooey and heavily flavored. Thanks for the help, gents.

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    Grousemoore from a freshly opened tin will be noticeable in a pipe for a few bowls afterwards, but in no ways is this a goopy blend - not an American or even German level of humectant from my experience. Granted, my tin is still from 2012 or so - I smoke a bowl of Grousemoore two or three times a year.

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    The consensus I've seen is yes, these blends will definitely leave a ghost. If you're going to be smoking them regularly, I don't think it would hurt to have a pipe set aside for them. I use a cob for Lakelands.

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    Use a designated pipe for these blends. Ennerdale in particular will haunt anything it touches like a poltergeist.

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    The force is strong with the Lakeland, Luke. Dedicate a pipe to it.

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    Haha thanks a bunch, gentlemen! I’ve been wanting a Peterson Harp since I first got into pipes. Now I have a reason to buy one. It shall become my Lakeland implement

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    In my experience nothing ghosts a pipe worse than Lakelands. Even a strong English ghost is easier to get rid of than Lakelands.

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    I’ve been wanting a Peterson Harp since I first got into pipes.

    I have a harp 606 Pot. It is one of my favorite pipes.

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    I have a few pipes that I dedicate to all Lakelands; however, I have found that cherry, vanilla, or just about any aromatic will leave a nasty ghost, especially if you accidentally smoke a straight Virginia in one afterwards. I have seven pipes dedicated to all aromatics also.

    Most days, I would prefer a lakeland ghost to a fruity aromatic ghost. It kills me how those goopy fruity aromatics leave such a horrible room smell the next day, worse than an English or Virginia. Going back into a room a few hours after smoking an aromatic, smells like a grandpa farted, IMO. The pipes smell that way to me also.

    So, we got dead grandma panties of Lakelenads, or old man farts of aromatics. YMMV

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    Cosmic, I suppose said dedicated pipe shall be known henceforth as the Granny Panty Express. Thanks... maybe? Haha

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    alaskanpiper I’m pleased to hear that you like yours! I had my eye on a couple of 15’s for many moons, sadly they all sold before I was ready to pull the trigger. I think a nice stout 106 will suffice for my needs, though not as stout as your 606. Something about that stem with the silver band and bowl stain just gets me. The Ashford is similar, and I usually LOVE army mounts, but somehow it doesn’t satisfy like the Harp does.

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    there are strong Lakelands and then there are those where the 'aroma is less obvious and present,these lite' Lakelands(Glengarry Fl, Westmorland Fl, Rich dark Hoeydew and perhaps St Bruno ) in my opinion do not ghost pipes so fiercely if not smoked on a regular basis in one and the same pipe, agreed, after repeated bowls of the light Lakelands a faint floral side note might be distinguishable, smoking plain Burley blends or moist Coffee grounds in the bowls should help if one doesn't want any floral sidenotes to be found in his pipes

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    I recently had some Grousemoor for the first time and I really enjoyed the subtle "lemongrass" essence, which is a little different from the other Lakelands I've had.

    I'd be concerned that Ennerdale or another strong Lakeland might interfere with the enjoyment of that aspect of Grousemoor.

    Maybe get a 7 day set of MM "seconds" to sort out the various nuances before stacking them all into one pipe. You might want a "light Lakeland" and a "heavy Lakeland" designator?

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    jay, wise words. I sort of hate cobs on principle because they are so ugly and unrefined, but perhaps it’s time to buy a couple to sample these blends in.

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    Yes - they will ghost a pipe quick. I have 1 dedicated to aro including Lakelands. But I've purged them from Ennerdale with no problem, so I wouldn't say it's the end of that pipe's versatility or anything. I have a 15 I would make you a deal with. I smoked it maybe 4 to 6 times, only VA and Vapers ever in it. It's an XL315 but not a Harp. PM me if interested.

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    Grousemoor-subtle "lemongrass"

    Told you it wasn't that strong.

    I like coffee exceedingly.
    - H. P. Lovecraft
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    I agree. Orley sent me a sample of it, along with a pipe I bought.

    However, this sample had several years on it. I'm interested in trying it fresh to see how much the sauce may have diminished with time.

    But, yes, I did find it mild, unique and enjoyable, like a sunny afternoon drifting the shoals of a conquered land aboard the Black Frigate...

    EDIT: Apparently, there's also a plug version? Maybe the difference in opinion concerning strength has something to do with the ribbon vs. the plug?

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    I am going against grain. If you clean the pipe after each smoke under running hot water for 60 seconds and then you wipe the bowl with a soft towel and run cleaners in the stem until they are clean, you are not going to have any ghost no matter what is the blend. The benefit of this is that for me a clean pipe smokes always the best but I have no intention to open a debate of cake vs no cake.
    Said that you do absolutely fine if you dedicate pipes to certain blends.

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    As a huge fan of Ennerdale and Lakelands in general, I recommend buying a dedicated pipe for these blends (and then smoking everything out of your freshly ghosted pipe because it makes all your other tobaccos taste better).

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    I bought an old Comoy's "Sunrise" Canadian shape with a tall narrow bowl on ebay last year. I found that I favor narrower bowls for Virginias which seems to be a common preference. Just seems to stay lit and burn better than in a wider bowl. Anyhow, it was strongly ghosted with a soapy floral Lakeland. Multiple rounds of salt and alcohol treatment followed by multiple bowls of codger burley eventually smoked that ghost out, and now it is a good Virginia pipe. I also use it to smoke Autumn Evening around the fall, which has ghosted the pipe just a little, but I enjoy getting the occasional hint of that maple sugar flavor sometimes and know to expect it from that pipe.

    Bottom line, Lakelands are notorious ghost-makers. I would dedicate a pipe to the Lakeland genre, as others mentioned.

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    Hmm, much to consider. I’ll probably buy that harp for Ennerdale and maybe put Firedance in it, too. If Grousemoore is fairly tame I think I could get away with the odd bowl every few months out of my straight VA pipe. I don’t mind a little lemon added to my Virginia’s.

    And Alex, I appreciate the offer. I’m not particularly taken with those XL’s so I’ll have to pass, but I do appreciate a brother looking out. Best of luck on selling that one!

    Thanks everybody for helping a newbie out. Left to my own devices I would’ve ghosted the shit out of a pipe and probably smoked them all out of the same one. I knew you all would have some good perspective on these Lakeland’s.

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    moist Coffee grounds in the bowls

    You can actually do that? Like Beaver Cleaver?

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    My opinion on "Lakelands" has evolved over time - specifically the last 3 years or so.

    Here's my take, for what it's worth. Yes, they ghost a pipe. No, I don't mind. I generally have a few briars that I smoke any Lakeland that strikes my fancy. One or two tend to be Ennerdale, Grousemoor, etc. because it just works for me. English / Balkans tend to be other pipes, but ... I'm not scared. I might just smoke Bob's in a pipe that has had English only or visa versa. I do have a few pipes that are VA flake only, but that's just me. Don't think I would mind a bit if one of my VA blends had a visit from the ghost of St. Bruno Past (and yes, I know, that's not a true Lakeland. Just saying.).

    Ultimately, it's your piping experience, and you can do whatever the hell you want. There is a wealth of different opinions and none of them are right or wrong. I listen to all of them, experiment and do what I please. Sometimes it ends well, sometimes not so much, LOL.

    I am smoking some Brown Flake Scented in a pipe that usually sees only Gawith Red or St. Bruno and ... it's fine. I'm digging it. Yup, it will probably "taint" the next pipe I smoke and maybe a few after that. Meh. Like them all, and to be honest I was a little surprised that I wanted to smoke this blend in this pipe. But I did it anyway. It will probably show up for a few pipes afterwards but that's okay.

    On the other hand, I have a few pipes that I rarely use for anything other than straight VA and some for English blends. Can't say for sure I wouldn't smoke a Lakeland in them at this point. Not planning on it, but ... never say never.

    Depends upon what you want to do, and not surprisingly, I'm a pipe smoker and therefore an arbitrary cuss and just do what I want. Shocking, I know, but ....

    Good luck and enjoy your piping.

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