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  1. checotah

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    Masonry is not a secret society. Our lodges proudly proclaim their presence with signs and banners. We are a private society and feel our business is our own. If you would like admission, simply seek out a member in your area and express that interest to him. 2B1 Ask1. Best thing I ever did.

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    I have either heard or read that the Oath of the Knights of Columbus, Knights of Malta and Rhodes Scholars is based upon the Oath of the Jesuits and that Freemasonry dates back to the Crusades. Is their any truth to that? I've also read that in Albert Pike's book that masons are to conceal any crimes of their brother masons if called into a court of law even if it meant perjuring yourself. You hear and read all manners of things about so called secret societies and don't know what to believe.

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    Teta Delta Chi Omnicron Charge. My son is interested in the Free Masons,whats the best way to join? I live in Rhode Island (Biggest Little State)

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    Colonel, Freemasonry as we know it developed mostly in the 1600s, and there are reputable claims of predecessors as far back as the Peasant's Revolt of 1381. The late John Robinson makes a good argument about escaping Templars forming the nucleus of the oaths, but it's all speculation.

    Albert Pike was a Confederate General, a world-class intellect, and a shameless bullshitter. I discount any tenet of Masonry if the sole source is Albert Pike. A Mason is obligated only by his own conscience to keep a secret entrusted to him by a fellow Mason. There is also a specific exemption for cases of murder or treason.

    A little further on the matter of oaths and obligations. The obligation contains many impressive words and bloody language, but if one reads it carefully (and they are all out there to read) the individual Mason is not bound to the Lodge, he is bound only to himself. In other words, by taking the obligation, a Mason is reminding himself, before God (or the Deity of his choice) of the duties he already owes to his fellow man.

    I hope that shed a little light for y'all.

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    I just created a group for the brethren. Not that Freemasons possess any special insights into pipe smoking, but maybe it would be fun to chat among ourselves.

    All Masons are welcome without concern for lodge or grand lodge affiliation.

    Click here.

    Jay

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    I have been asked if I was interested a few times when I was younger - thought about it recently but I know no one in NYC!

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    Mountain Lodge #661 AF&AM Masonic Lodge (Santa Anna, TX), Scottish Rite 32 degree, also Kappa Sigma.

    RLTW!
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    I have been asked if I was interested a few times when I was younger - thought about it recently but I know no one in NYC!

    You know me.

    I've been a New Jersey Freemasons for seventeen years, but now am looking to affiliate with a lodge in Manhattan. The trouble is choosing one from among so many great lodges.

    Jay

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    Fellwoship Lodge # 1385 A.F.& A.M. Odessa,Texas
    32 degree Scottish Rite El Paso,Texas
    El Maida Shriners, El Paso, Texas

    Kaywoodie Pipes since 1851
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    I am a Carpenter and build scaffolds for Masons quite frequently.

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    I am a Rotarian and a Mason

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    I'm a Roman Catholic and against freemasons.

    Prayer for the Conversion of Masons
    O Lord Jesus Christ. Who showest forth Thy omnipotence most manifestly when Thou sparest and hast compassion,

    Thou Who didst say, “Pray for those who persecute and calumniate you, “ we implore the clemency of Thy Sacred Heart on behalf of souls, made in the image of God, but most miserably deceived by the treacherous snares of Freemasons, and going more and more astray in the way of perdition.

    Let not the Church, Thy Spouse, any longer be oppressed by them; but, appeased by the intercession of the Blessed Virgin, Thy Mother, and the prayers of the just, be mindful of Thy infinite mercy, and disregarding their perversity, cause these very men to return to Thee, that they may bring consolation to the Church by a most abundant penance, make reparation for their misdeeds, and secure for themselves a glorious eternity;

    Who livest and reignest world without end. Amen.
    (100 days, once a day) ( the Raccolta, 8th Edition, p.140)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ban_of_Freemasonry

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    I'm not much of a joiner of formal organizations. I like to let connections and bonds happen through activities
    and affiliations that occur in an informal way over time. Families, friendships, professions, and arts (and other
    activities) all have their secrets and confidences, but I like these to be a matter of character and not oaths. But
    some of the groups mentioned on this thread do some real good, for which I give them credit. The Shriners and
    their burn centers -- and I'm sure many others. The American Legion and the Daughters of the American
    Revolution sent me to Illinois Boys State when I was in high school. I was no kind of politician (the boys can run
    for office there at Boys State) but I did win the Lincoln medal for my essay on the Constitution. The amount of
    energy surrounding the elections was a blast, and some of the guys who specialized in public speaking were
    tremendously skilled.

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    I'm a Roman Catholic and against freemasons....

    So says the pious soul who uses the likeness of a genocidal totalitarian tyrant for his personal avatar here.

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    So says the pious soul who uses the likeness of a genocidal totalitarian tyrant for his personal avatar here.

    So because I use an avatar of Stalin that makes me a bad person? U mad???

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    I remember a kid telling me that his dad was a Masonite, because he always watched Perry Mason.

    I almost joined the IOF (Independent Order of the Foresters) but never followed through.

    St. Augustine: "Though defensive violence will always be a 'sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men."
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    Wow. This thread went quickly down the sewer, thanks to one person. And, yes, using a communist tyrant as your personal avatar, then casting judgment on people and organizations you know absolutely nothing is pretty ridiculous. I know I wouldn't choose a photo of Adolf Hitler or Charles Manson to associate anything to myself....but then, I'm one of those satanic Masons.

    Happy piping.

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    WOW! Three year old thread goes around once and all is calm! Comes around again, and not so much!

    John
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  19. layinpipe

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    I was (am) a Sigma Chi from the Iota Xi chapter at George MASON (lol). I thoroughly enjoyed my time in college as a member of my fraternity and would highly recommend joining one for young people in college. The history and traditions in all fraternities really appeals to me, as i am somewhat of a history buff to begin with. I was also a member of my major's honor society, Lambda Pi Eta, which is the National Communications Honor Society.

    My grandfather was a Mason, 32 degree Scottish Rite and a member of the Knights Templar and Knights of Columbus. He was very active at his lodge and i believe he held a high ranking before he passed while i was in college in 2002 0r 2003. My grandmother, his wife, was active with the Northern Star. I inherited his masonic ring and his buck knife, which has inscriptions of all of his fraternal symbols. I misplaced the ring unfortunately, but still have his knife right on my dresser to this day. I will take a pic of it when i go inside, so maybe some of you can discern what the symbols mean. I remember going to a couple of their meetings and dinner functions when i was little. Obviously i didn't attend the actual meeting, but waited outside while they conducted the meeting. I looked into joining the Masonry when i was living in San Diego and they looked up my grandfather and told me a little about him and his status within the society. I never followed through though, maybe i should at some point...

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    I'd love to have a look at that knife, and if you have any questions about Freemasonry, I'd do my best to answer them.

    Jay

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    A few years ago, I received an unexpected package in the mail from my uncle. On the outside was a card which explained that since I was the only Mason in the family, it was only right for me to have my grandfather's (Dad's side) Masonic Bible. Apparently the Bible had been on display in a small museum in Meeteetse, Wyoming for decades.

    The Bible lists the dates my grandfather became an EA, a FC, and a MM. Several of the signatures of Masons who were present were relatives of mine.

    I also have my grandfather's (Mom's side) Masonic ring and Scottish Rite ring, as well as my grandmother's Eastern Star pins.

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    Andrew are you trying to disturb a relatively peaceful thread. As a Roman Catholic and a devotee of St Jude I find your rather interesting take of social grouping to have more in common with 'The Witch Finder General' and other charming gentlemen who practiced their trade for profit and sexual kicks in the 1590s. How many angles can you fit on a pin head? Burnt any deserving witches lately? Honestly man the current pope would ex-communicate you for publishing that sort of cr*p on the web. Insipiens, tu dicant a mauris in forum!

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    So because I use an avatar of Stalin that makes me a bad person? U mad???

    I don't know.. is an a-hole a bad person?

    U mad??? no just sad. I hope you are just jerking folk's chains and don't really believe the bat-sh!t crazy stuff you post.

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    @dochudson +1

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