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  1. frennchy11

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    I have been looking into freehand pipes and really like the looks of many of them, but with their great looks comes great cost... So does anyone know of any freehand pipes for under 100$?

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  2. pipeinhand

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    Nording, lots of them on ebay.

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    Are Ben Wade Pipes any good? I see a lot of them for under 50$!

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    You should consider getting one custom made ... there's a few excellent pipe makers here.

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    freehand usually = handmade = more labor costs = more expensive pipe

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    dr Grabow freehand pipes are $30.00

    Now i gotta larn how to reed and rite good
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    There's a lot of confusion about free hand pipes. A Grabow of course can't be a free hand for 30$ or not?
    Probably the confusion is between free shape and free hand.Also Nording that is one major brand nowadays cant produce real free hand if not in special series for over 300-400$.
    Well pipes can be :
    1) machined (the most part)
    2)Hand made (that means machine turned and hand finished)
    3)Free hand (totally made by hand with no machines)
    About free hand we could also say that not all pipes signed free hand are real free hand.James Upshall to my opinion are machined at first step.
    Anyway nobody can think to buy a full hand made for 100$ or less,must explain why? well when you get your wage guess the aswer is clear
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    In my opinion Ben Wade pipes are well worth that price.

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    I didn't think there was any confusion on what a freehand pipe was. Pretty easy to see what is and what isn't. But just so there is no confusion

    Smokingpipes.com's definition of a "Freehand" pipe

    Freehand
    Used to refer to any pipe shape that is outside of the 'normal', meaning named, styles of pipe making. These were popularized by Danish carvers in the first half of the twentieth century, but now every region of pipemaking has at least one producer of freehand shapes, and many traditional carvers occasionally create a freehand or two.

    From Pipedia

    And Dr. Grabow makes a sexy freehand for the price if I do say so myself.

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    You might want to look at the fln pipes. Nice looking Freehands at $50

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    Spartan;

    thank you for ur back up mate i appreciate it. I soon aint gonna post any more comments. One member here, not to mention names, disputes a large percentage of them. Almost like i have a target on my back

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    Thanks guys! what do you think about this one?
    Ben Wade

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    i like it alot frenchy!!

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    That's a nice pipe, but it will go for closer to $120, rather than the $36 it's now at.

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    Maybe. It isn't wearing an original stem and it looks to have been either aggressively buffed or it has a weak stamp. Both may or may not hurt the sale price...its ebay, afterall.

    The Martinique line isn't quite as popular as some of the others, which may or may not affect the final price.

    It does have a Friday night auction ending, which always seems to make prices a bit higher. At least when I am trying to win an auction it seems this way. Fridays and weekends seem to price out higher auctions than day time or mid-week auctions, but I haven't scientifically tested this theory.

    I say bid what you're comfortable with and let's see what happens.

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    Frencchy, I have a Ben Wade Martinique, and it is a wonderful smoker. I think you'd be happy with it for sure!

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    I think I am going to go with a Nording.... But I love the Ben Wades they just go for too much on ebay.

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    I like Nording myself. But i am fond of the Graybow I think i will order one.

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    Nsfisher, I, for one, enjoy your comments. I'm sure others do too.

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    I have two freehand pipes in my collection and they have become a bit of a prized possession to me.

    First is my Celius. It is one of my restorations and is a damn fine smoking pipe. IF you can get your hands on one, I highly recommend them. Only problem is that they are suddenly highly collectible and go for a pretty high price. You wouldn't believe how much I snagged this one for.



    The second one is a 1948 Stanwell. I got this one from Portascat (thanks man, it's an awesome pipe!)and started the restoration. He was a mess, but turned out to be a beauty. One of my only faults in this restoration was accidentally sanding the nomenclature down too far to be able to read, but the patent number that was on it was from 1948. I did a staining job as well as fitting a replacement acrylic stem to it.


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    dam those r awsome bootle, sweet pipes for sure

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    I don't think that a machined pipe could be defined free hand, maybe free shape if the shape is not ordinary.Otherwise how we could define a fully hand made pipe? That's my opinion of course and don't think that expose a diffeent opinion could be offensive or annoying .If so sorry i'm in a wrong place
    Maurizio

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    To me, and I have been doing this for 40 years, freehand is a shape, not a construction method. A "handmade" pipe should bring a higher price but with that said, the market will bear what it will. Pipes are art, that you use. You can purchase a very good looking freehand pipe, at a price that won't cost you a car payment, and be happy. I knew what you meant nsfisher in your first post.

    @hnryclay: you can't go wrong with a Nording, I have 3 with 2 more coming.

    Bootleg, dude, that Celius is awesome! I covet that pipe.

    EDIT: @profpar: nice link, I am going to get the checkbook.

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  24. maxpeters

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    I don't care for the look of most freehand pipes. But that's just me. I remember back in the 70's when it seemed like everybody was trying to out do one another with weird shapes. A lot of them looked ridiculous, just to be different I think.
    I'm sure a lot of the time it was just so the carver could use a flawed block of brair, and come away with a "masterpiece freehand".
    No. I was glad to see some normality return to the pipe making community.

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    I guess freehand is an old term that is still just being used out of habit. When I started working in the business back in the late '70's, freehand was the terminology used for any pipe that didn't adhere to a standard shape, and I guess it still is for the most part(at least here in the US) as can be seen on the major e-tailers sites for pipes by Nording for instance. I know for a fact that these pipes that run $75-$100 aren't completely hand made, but the term freehand is still used. I thing freestyle, or freeshape might be a more accurate description of the pipe, but it seems old habits, or in this case nomenclature dies hard. Just my $.02.

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    Well i understand that probably there's a difference between Europe and Usa.The confusion is probably due to that.The best example is the James Upshall production for the most part rigorously of English style but the printing over the shank says " FH James Upshall + shape number" .The Uphall pipes could be made entirely by hand (?) the FH (free hand) means hand without help of any machine..........so Free ,also in the english standard shapes.
    So we could say it's only a definition not important at all.When i buy a pipe for 30 $ new i can define it free shape because i'm sure no hand worked as free on that pipe.But if in Usa you prefer to call that pipe freehand , well nothing change at all.Surely a 30$ pipe it is worth what it costs freehand or freeshape
    Maurizio

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    mlaug was right: the Ben Wade in the ebay auction was in fair condition at best; so his apparaisal was closer to the mark than mine (the pipe sold at 60-something dollars).

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    I have a Preben Holm and a Ben Wade both are excellent smokers. Both I got for under $100.00 on ebay.

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    I bought my freehands in the 80's: a Nording,

    a Ben Wade,

    a Jobey

    and an Edwards.

    All are excellent smoking pipes, but big and heavy. None were more than $45.00 back then. I also have an oddball, a Rungstead Seafarer, again its a nice pipe, but really big. Of all these, I like the Nording best.

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    OK what I have learned from this is that "freehand" refers only to a non-conventional shape, therefore no 2 will ever be identical be the characteristics of the original lump of briar are retained.

    I think the term for a completely hand-made, no machinery used pipe should be Hand-Made or Hand-carved, period!

    The current status quo is misleading for new players.

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  31. mlaug

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    frennchy11 - Did you, by chance, win this pipe?

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    Unfortunately no. I wasnt able to place a bid. it only went for around 60$ though!

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    Well, it won't be the last one for sale. Good luck with the hunt! I hope you get a nice one.

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    A lot of those turn up on ebay. I rather like the look of freehand pipes but I dislike the large bowls due to the problem of having screwed up hands and holding them can be less than comfortable for me. One other thing is in the 70's the stump on a stick style was popular. They just lacked class in my opinion. Sort of soured me on freehands.

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