Dunhill W/Threaded Stem? (Dunhill 130 F/T Bruyere)

pitchfork · Jun 14, 2013

Just picked up this long-stemmed Dublin (130 F/T Bruyere) for very modest sum. The stem was positively yellow and the stem didn't fit, but both were easily fixed.
What I didn't expect, though, was the reverse threaded stem (see pics below). I'm familiar with the Vernon Fitment from the 30s or 40s, but I've never encountered anything like this. Also, there's no date code given for the pipe, just "130 F/T" with "Dunhill / Bruyere" on one side, and "Made In / England" "(1)A" on the other.
According to one website, this model was made in 1928, 1950 and 1968. I'm guessing this one is from one of the later two dates, but I'd be greatly appreciative if anyone knows anything about this model or about Dunhill's threaded stems in general. Thanks!

eaglerico · Jun 14, 2013

That almost looks similar to the Jobey link. Does the threaded part come out of the pipe?

pitchfork · Jun 14, 2013

I haven't yanked on it (lol), but it's possible it does. Is there a Jobey/Dunhill connection?

roadqueen · Jun 14, 2013

I can accurately date it if you can get a clear photo of the stampings, pitchfork. I may even be able to send you an information link on the backstory.

pitchfork · Jun 14, 2013

I can accurately date it if you can get a clear photo of the stampings, pitchfork. I may even be able to send you an information link on the backstory.

Thanks, roadqueen. It will be later, tonight, but I'll post some photos of the stampings.

pitchfork · Jun 14, 2013

OK, here's a pic of the stampings. Now a confession -- turns out there is a date code. It's a "9." And to my eyes, it just looked like the D in "ENGLAND." I hadn't even noticed the number until I went to take a closeup. So I think that means it's from 1969. But I still haven't found out anything about the threaded stem.

roadqueen · Jun 16, 2013

Well, you have me stumped as well! It is certainly a 1969, but I have found no mention anywhere of a threaded Dunhill.

pitchfork · Jun 16, 2013

Thanks for confirming the date, roadqueen. I can't find anything about the threaded stem, but it appears to be original as it fits almost perfectly.
It happens I bought the pipe from a seller in Japan -- did Dunhill use different stems for export to Japan? A real mystery.

ssjones · Jun 17, 2013

That is a mystery. I would think perhaps it was a repair? But, I've never seen a threaded repair tenon either. The Japanese connection could be the answer? I'll stay tuned for a Dunhill expert to chime in. That is a great shape too!

numbersix · Jun 17, 2013

It happens I bought the pipe from a seller in Japan -- did Dunhill use different stems for export to Japan? A real mystery.

Very interesting pipe and mystery - where's Huckle when you need him (if you have kids, you'll get that remark)!

pitchfork · Jun 19, 2013

Thanks, Al. I considered the possibility of a repair, except for the trouble and expense it would have taken to repair the original with such precision. I wouldn't rule out a repair at this point, however.
Hopefully this bump will catch the eye of a Dunhill expert.

pitchfork · Jun 19, 2013

Thanks, Sam. It well could be a replacement tenon, although it looks different from the one Steve Laug pointed to. I'll try yanking on it, maybe. :mrgreen:

admin · Jun 20, 2013

Ironically, my Dunhill 130 F/T has a replacement stem. It is not a screw on though. It is the standard mounting. I didn't realize it was a replacement stem until someone pointed out the the white spot is slightly larger than it should be.

pitchfork · Jul 2, 2013

I'm away from home for the moment and haven't had a chance to yank on my Dunhill stem, but I came across this 1934 Dunhill with a threaded stem very similar to mine (albeit made of metal, not vulcanite).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1934-U-S-PATENTS-DUNHILLS-SHELL-BENT-POKER/360687515217

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pitchfork · Aug 19, 2013

It looks like you should be able to thread the stem back on and then pull the whole tenon out..but don't do that on my advice!

Thanks again, Sam. I've been away from home (and the Dunhill) for a few weeks, but I just got back. After a few trips to the freezer and a little Evan Williams (for the pipe, I mean), the tenon did indeed come loose and it's clearly a replacement tenon, as suspected. A little epoxy should secure it in place.
Many thanks, again, for all who chimed in here.

Dunhill W/Threaded Stem? (Dunhill 130 F/T Bruyere)

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