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Dunhill Tobaccos Rebranded as Peterson

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    So, they are reintroducing some of the Dunhill blends under the Peterson moniker.

    Credit to James Foster for sending this over. Pardon me if it's already been posted. I couldn't find it.

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    Good to know. Don’t see Durbar in this list unfortunately.

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    Is there any information about when it will become available?

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    Durbar would literally by the only one I cared about. Figures.

    And Peterson isn't making the Signature Flake anymore either.

    They must hate me.

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    Yup. That jibes with what I'd heard was coming.

    Who cares if there's a different name on the label. It wasn't about smoking something associated with Dunhill, right? It was about liking these particular blends and now they're back from the same maker making their same blends formerly known as Dunhill and now renamed Peterson.

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    Agree "sablebrush52"...Bring it out and let's start smoking!!! I am sure we shall see Dunhill and Peterson Tins side by side to compare the tobacco.

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    I don't care what they call the blends; just get the drilling right. Isn't this what we really care about?

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    ^^

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    You’d think places like China would still be a booming market for Dunhill as a Tobacco company. Their loss.
    I guess trying to cater to high class western markets means they can’t sneak anything past the lynch mob at their front door.

    And as far as the blends themselves go, I love the cut and burning characteristics of Dunhill blends and will probably keep these on my short list as long as they’re in production.

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    Well it says they are using original recipes. I'll be interested to read reviews from members here. In the meantime I'm smoking a lot of HU.

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    Original recipes indeed. Now if they could only source the tobaccos of the 60,s and older. Then they could get close to the original flavors.

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    I had been hoping for London mixture, but I guess I'll have to settle for nightcap. Great to see these blends making a comeback.

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    Lets hope Peterson does not want to start selling fancy shirts and wallets in a year.

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    Well, I wish them luck but when you look at the track record of companies introducing a line of tobacco from another company I don't have much hope.

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    3rdguy: Wrong "Dunhill," You are mistaking "dunhill" which sells expensive, high quality leather goods and stuff with the former manufacturer of pipes and, many years ago, tobacco products, Dunhill.

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    I wonder what "STG is reintroducing the variants using original recipes" indicates. I understand what Warren is getting at as far as sourcing tobacco, but I"m puzzled by the ambiguity of the sentence. If they had written "using THE original recipes" I'd know what they were communicating. Does "original" mean first and earliest, or does it mean inventive and unique?

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    With the newly modified legislation are these going to be categorized as new blends and be victim to the May 11th deadline?

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    No 3 year matured Virginia? That was one of my favourites. Oh well.

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    You are mistaking "dunhill" which sells expensive, high quality leather goods and stuff with the former manufacturer of pipes and, many years ago, tobacco products, Dunhill.
    That sure sounds like longchamp, are you sure?

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    Since STG had already been doing the blending on the Dunhill, I'm *hoping* that the recipes aren't changing.

    We'll know soon enough.

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    I've only smoked BB1938 and Aperitif and I wasn't impressed. Always wanted Durbar but never tried it.

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    I only really liked Elizabethan and I've got enough of that one left to last until I'm reduced to fine white ash.

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    That sure sounds like longchamp, are you sure?

    Longchamp is a small, family owned French company. dunhill (lower case dee)is a brand owned by "Richemont Group", a large, also family owned, Swiss conglomerate. I doubt Longchamp is even a blip on Richemont's radar. Piaget, Mont Blanc, Purdy, Cartier and many other brands are under the Richemont umbrella of ownership. I believe Richemont is, by far, the largest of the luxury brand holding companies.

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    This sounds epic. I never really tried dunhill tobacco's, simply because I only like Burley. But if I had to guess, this would be a great company to take over.

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    Wow! Glad to hear they are coming back. I got into pipe smoking just after they stopped, so I have only tried a few dunhill blends. Excited to try some others, hopefully at a reasonable cost.

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    I'm glad they're, mostly, back. Navy Rolls was a favorite and I enjoyed Early Morning, Nightcap and Flake.

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    No Ye Olde Signe but good news!

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    Without the word “Dunhill” on the label it’ll never taste the same. The 2018 Dunhills, now those were tobacco. Same manufacturer with the same recipes and same leaf sources couldn’t possibly be the same. The slightly different tin art ruins the blend. Get out of my yard, mehhhhh!

    Happy to hear the fans of the blends can continue to get them.

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    [/quote]With the newly modified legislation are these going to be categorized as new blends and be victim to the May 11th deadline?
    It's a great question...

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    They'd be shortsighted to make them out to be anything other than a re-labeling of the very same blend they've been producing for Dunhill. Both for customer acceptance and to avoid FDA "testing" and the large fees for that.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    Royal Yacht lives!

    It lives! Yessssss, my precious, it lives again, it does.

    We likes Peterson, my precious, we LIKES it.

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    They'd be shortsighted to make them out to be anything other than a re-labeling of the very same blend they've been producing for Dunhill. Both for customer acceptance and to avoid FDA "testing" and the large fees for that.

    Label changes for Christmas Cheer made them susceptible for FDA scrutiny. Would this not be the same?

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    Do we really know the extent of the FDA's intent and the McClellands' posture when contacted- indeed, were they contacted or was it just a concern?

    Anyway, we'll find out in a few years I guess!

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    With the newly modified legislation are these going to be categorized as new blends and be victim to the May 11th deadline?

    Short answer, yes. Longer answer, since the Dunhill branded blends left the US market around July of 2008 and were gone for a considerable time while Orlik and STC arranged for a new US distributor, they were never eligible to be grandfathered in. Nothing has actually changed in that regard.

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    Ah, so their possible demise was coming even prior to Peterson picking them up.

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    Anyway, we'll find out in a few years I guess!

    Indeed. May 11th next year will let us see if any sanity is left.

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    Ah, so their possible demise was coming even prior to Peterson picking them up.

    Peterson didn't pick them up. STG owns the Peterson name for tobaccos and assigned the resumption of production of the former "Dunhill" blends as part of its Peterson offerings.

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    What I meant was the Peterson tobacco line, not the brand itself.

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    Where did this photo come from? I can only find it here and one other site.

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    Do you mean this, which was in a link provided by Kevin?

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    "the weez"...
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    I think creel was asking about which site the article originated from.

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    Yes just wondering where the photo came from not implying anything negative about Kevin and hope no one takes it that way, just was wondering where the original photo came from. The link is just back to Pipesmagzine.com. Hope that makes sense.

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    Looks like a press release. Now how many news sites will print this press release?

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    Looking forward to Rauchen Ist Tödlich.

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    Looking forward to Rauchen Ist Tödlich.

    Yeah definitely. At least it's not those god-awful disgusting infected lungs photos

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    I don’t care what it’s called, I just care about when I can get some

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    Good news for sure, I have enough Nightcap to last me a while but good to know I can get more.

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    Good news for sure, I have enough Nightcap to last me a while but good to know I can get more.

    You’ll have to post a thread on how they compare to one another!

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    Man ... I am confused, so at the end of the day how many people are going to be marketing Dunhill blends and Dunhill clones? Charatan, RObert McConnel, Scandinavian, now Peterson ... what's next?

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    oh wait Scandinavian markets Peterson now ...

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    So STG only bought rights to a handful of recipes? No Durbar or the new old releases?

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    I don't care what they call the blends; just get the drilling right. Isn't this what we really care about?

    :rofl:

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    Curiously, this information with the tin art and such is not included in the press release on the STG site from July 3. What is the source of this info?

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    Cool to see Flake & Dark Flake made it back... but we have less than a year to get our hands on these, probably a lot less depending when these are actually released in the States and they’ll constantly be sold out so I won’t rely to much on these re-releases, I’ve got plenty of my favorites aging in the ol’ cellar. Enjoy the hunt (refreshing the site every few minutes). Sounds fun!

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    Some of us predicted this would happen.

    I now posit that these "STG-Peterson-Dunhill" blends will NOT disappear a year from now. Either STG has figured out a way to get around the deeming costs, or is prepared to eat them having sharp pencilled the cost versus future profit.

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    Personally I am not concerned in the least if STG has to pony up for the U.S. portion of the market. They have the funds.

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    have enough to taste in the cellar. but if they are same blends wouldn't mind getting more.

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    Some of us predicted this would happen.

    I now posit that these "STG-Peterson-Dunhill" blends will NOT disappear a year from now. Either STG has figured out a way to get around the deeming costs, or is prepared to eat them having sharp pencilled the cost versus future profit.

    Probably this. It's not like the FDA fees are that large, evidently around $3000 per blend. Once they've sold a couple of thousand tins per blend that cost will go away. Or, they may decide to do what others are doing and focus on the Asian market.

    You’ll have to post a thread on how they compare to one another!

    Compare what? STG is simply restarting the same production line they stopped. Same equipment, same components, same processing. The only thing different will be the name on the tin. Ahhh, but what's in a name?

    Man ... I am confused, so at the end of the day how many people are going to be marketing Dunhill blends and Dunhill clones? Charatan, RObert McConnel, Scandinavian, now Peterson ... what's next?

    Well, they're ALL clones, including STG. Actual Dunhill tobaccos haven't been made since the 1980's, and in the case of Navy Rolls, never existed at all, since Murray's created that particular product. Just pick the clone you like the best. Don't worry, be happy. None of it's legit.

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    I knew that revenue stream wouldn't go untapped, but I had no idea it would be so convoluted. Oh well. Glad to see the tin art has somehow been carried along, at least for starters. This would never make a novel for being too laborious to read. It's interesting to watch it unfold in drab reality. So long as I don't have to read the legal contractual paperwork.

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    I knew that revenue stream wouldn't go untapped, but I had no idea it would be so convoluted. Oh well. Glad to see the tin art has somehow been carried along, at least for starters.

    Word on the internet street is, this is a doctored photo from reddit. After searching, I haven't found corroboration that they'll be Peterson-branded (though, it seems plenty feasible), the tin art will remain the same, or the specific list of blends.

    I hope it to be true, as it would make a lot of smokers happy, but even on the actual STG press release on their site, none of this information is indicated.

    If anyone has further info, other than the screenshots, I would be happy to see it!

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    Word on the internet street is, this is a doctored photo from reddit.

    A falsehood emanating out of reddit? Heavens to Murgatroyd!

    Word on the internet street...

    The internet is essentially a very convoluted digital alimentary canal.

    When the stuff shows up on shelves, you'll know it happened.

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    When the stuff shows up on shelves, you'll know it happened.

    Correct, as usual. I know something will be coming out of STG in the way of Dunhill-blend (re-re-blend...) re-issues. I was just curious if anyone had a lead on where this Peterson stuff came from. Like I said - it makes sense. Can't believe just yet that this wasn't someone just having a bit of photoshop fun, though.

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    I just assumed these blends were gone forever. This is exciting news, even if temporary due to the FDA nonsense. Either way, I'll stock up on a few when available.

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    Good Info and thanks!
    Elizabethan Mixture, very yummy! Still glad I saw the writing on the wall and got me a whole bunch of Frog Morton!

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    hawky454.. I saw where a lot of them will be reborn, but not Flake.
    Where did you see that?
    Not doubting you just hoping. That was my fav.
    Still trying to find something like it.

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    Heavens to Murgatroyd

    Nice flashback, Sable. Thanks!

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    Very Happy. Light Flake, Dark Flake, Royal Yack, London Mixture, Nightcap were my day's smokes.

    965 is a bit light for me (prefer the stiffer London Mixture, which got me into pipe smoking and has been my favorite English). But, STG is bringing out a big 4 out of 5. 3 cheers!

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    The Nightcap feeding frenzy will be something to behold...

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