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Dunhill Pipe Tobacco 1912-2017

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  1. deathmetal

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    At the end of 2016 we announced that we would be ceasing supply of Dunhill cigars and pipe tobacco by the end of 2017.

    Like many companies, we continually review and refine our global strategy to ensure the sustainability of our business for the future.

    These products make up a very small part of our overall business – the rest of the Dunhill portfolio is not affected by this decision.

    While we appreciate that this may be disappointing news for some consumers and industry partners, these decisions help us to remain focused on, and investing in, the right parts of our business to ensure our longevity and profitability for the future.

    http://www.briarreport.com/fate-dunhill-pipe-tobacco/

    We should have a moment of silence.

    In the meantime, other "armagedDUN" threads:

    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-pipe-tobacco-a-message-from-stg-lane
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-tobaccos-discontinued-at-least-in-the-netherlands-and-perhaps-elsewhere
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/end-of-dunhill-tobaccos
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-substitutes-1
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/british-american-tobacco-to-discontinue-dunhill-cigars-and-pipe-tobacco
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-tobacco-usa
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-substitutes-2
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/dunhill-to-stop-selling-pipe-tobacco
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/things-i-will-do-when-dunhill-tobaccos-end
    * http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/so-what-is-the-latest-on-dunhill

    "My own experience has been that the tools I need for my trade are paper, tobacco, food, and a little whiskey." -- William Faulkner

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  2. deathmetal

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    Dear gentlefolk,

    Please reconsider your decision to kill off Dunhill Pipe Tobacco.

    Like many other products with a long history, these blends constitute a tradition in themselves, passed down between generations and enjoyed by those who like a high-quality product at a price suited to normal middle class living.

    While pipe smoking seems to be in decline, most of this is an artifact of the inability to smoke in the workplace. With telecommuting having risen 115% since 2005 (https://www.flexjobs.com/2017-State-of-Telecommuting-US/), more of us are able to work at home and enjoy pipes, which otherwise would require one-hour smoke breaks which employers tend to frown upon.

    I believe that, within the decade, you will see this storied blend return to profitability. In the meantime, please consider licensing it to one of the competent North American or European blenders to keep the legacy of Dunhill pipe tobacco alive.

    Thank you for considering my request.

    Sent to BAT via their contact form.

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    Get ready to receive a very nice communication where their Sales Representative is very eager to speak to your personally....but don't hold your breath waiting on that call....

    Al

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    Forget about it.

    Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch’entrate
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    Luckily I have already activated my Dunhill bunker and have plenty cellared. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the latecomers to buy out the remaining vendor inventory.

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    Perhaps the FDA deeming regs make the sale and altered production of the blends too uncertain to ask an appropriate price. Otherwise, I would think some millions could be shaken out of the blends. Pre-2007 matching blends should do well. Sutliff's Westminster is said to be similar to London Mixture, but there are a number that are sold directly as matches.

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    I am pretty stocked on these with 24 blue flake and at least 5 each of the others. Hmmm, I wonder if that is enough.

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    The headline of this thread makes me sad. There is such a long history between Dunhill and pipe smokers. Hard to believe it is really coming to an end.

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    "Alas that these days should be mine".

    Not the sweet, new grass with flowers is this harvesting of mine;
    Not the upland clover bloom...
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    Nightcap is what got me into pipes really. It's sad to see a major player stopping production, especially with the storied past that Dunhill had for so many enthusiasts.

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    but don't hold your breath waiting on that call....

    Yep, I'm not waiting on Richemont to call me back, either. But, one thing I've learned in life is that the squeaky wheel does get the grease and yet, most people will not squeak politely, which is how you get a lot of things done.

    Next step obviously is to stage a protest where we occupy the offices of BAT until they release the Dunhill tobaccos.

    965 and Royal Yacht are being held hostage by MBAs, as far as I can tell.

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    I think ( and hope ) another company will take over Dunhill's blends. Way too much money involved!!

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    Even if they don't use the Dunhill name, and do 'Nightcap Tribute' or something like that.

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    Even if they don't use the Dunhill name, and do 'Nightcap Tribute' or something like that.

    Exactly and ' Original Mixture or Blends ' should be added also.......

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    So be it. I will sorely miss them but I keep in mind that there are still many other excellent offerings on the market.
    I will focus on them from now on.

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    Wow, first I heard of it. I guess I better get a few tins of Nightcap and 965 before they're gone.

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    I think ( and hope ) another company will take over Dunhill's blends. Way too much money involved!!

    Well, that was the problem. The money was insignificant as sales were small. So, hasta la vista.

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    So you say you can drink? Well, I'm from Wisconsin. Try to keep up.
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    This really makes me sad. What the hell am I going to do when I run out of Dark Flake and Navy Rolls? It just does not bear thinking about. You can't even get Escudo in the UK anymore so that's no replacement. Anyone know of something like Dark Flake I can get in the UK?

    It weirdly feels similar to losing a very close, dear and personal friend.

    Grim.

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    Get ready to receive a very nice communication where their Sales Representative is very eager to speak to your personally....but don't hold your breath waiting on that call....

    I'm still waiting on my call.

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    SB , Insignificant to the Dunhill Corp. But maybe not to a smaller pipe tobacco only co. Just saying.....

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    SB , Insignificant to the Dunhill Corp. But maybe not to a smaller pipe tobacco only co. Just saying.....

    I've always stood by the fact that BAT may own the names and rights, but STG makes the blends. I still figure STG will 'introduce' some surprisingly familiar 'new' mixes.

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    So Dunhill makes an actual product that is widely popular and sold, but can neither sustain the business nor sell it to someone else. However, various math Ph.D.'s get together and draw up an algorithm complex enough that no one can understand but them (if them) and sell vast shares at high prices, betting on nothing against nothing, and voila, derivatives. They're all buying Manhattan, London, and Dubai real estate by the acre. But we get no Dunhill blends. Makes perfect sense to me.

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    SB , Insignificant to the Dunhill Corp. But maybe not to a smaller pipe tobacco only co. Just saying.....

    The tobaccos are insignificant. The brand name is not. So there is zero chance that the Dunhill name will be lent to a product they no longer want to support. Let's say that the recipes get licensed to another manufacturer. They still won't be available for sale in the US under current FDA regs. Given the growing animus toward smoking it seems highly unlikely that anyone would go out of their way to reintroduce the blends under a different name to a limited marketplace.

    As for noting out of nothing, virtual currency has made overnight mega-millionaires out of people who basically do nothing. Makes perfect sense to me too.

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    Pipe smokers can make a protest by making a small bonfire out of burning Dunhill tobaccos outside their Alfred Dunhill trademark headquarter.

    I will definitely join.

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    jazz,

    Anyone know of something like Dark Flake I can get in the UK?

    I would recommend you try Samuel Gawith St James Flake and Solani 633. Both are excellent virginia/perique blends. Also if you are into ropes you might want to give Peter Heinrichs Curly Block a whirl. It is not cheap but it is very tasty. It is also similar to Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls especially when you cut the rope into discs.

    Harris
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    I would recommend you try Samuel Gawith St James Flake and Solani 633. Both are excellent virginia/perique blends. Also if you are into ropes you might want to give Peter Heinrichs Curly Block a whirl. It is not cheap but it is very tasty. It is also similar to Dunhill Deluxe Navy Rolls especially when you cut the rope into discs.

    Cheers Harris, I appreciate the suggestion but I smoke St James and 633 regularly these days and neither taste anything like Dark Flake to me. I shall keep an eye out for Curly Block but I never see any Heinrichs stuff in the UK either. It's probably not too much of a chore to order from Germany though. Actually, that may not be a bad idea. I'm sure there are a few blends that are easily found there that could fit in the same shipping box.

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    jazz, I have not smoked it yet but I have read some really good reviews of Dan Tobacco Salty Dogs which is a virgina/perique plug. If you are ordering from Germany, that might be available. I have it in my cart at smokingpipes and will be ordering it in the next day or so.

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    jazz, I have not smoked it yet but I have read some really good reviews of Dan Tobacco Salty Dogs which is a virgina/perique plug. If you are ordering from Germany, that might be available. I have it in my cart at smokingpipes and will be ordering it in the next day or so.

    Good shout. It sounds right up my street when I looked it up.

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    In the event that the Dunhill recipes are picked up by another blender I want to be the first to claim that the latest incarnation isn’t as good as the previous one and doesn’t hold a candle to the original version.

    Sad to see a name synonymous with pipes run like a bat out of hell away from pipes.

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    Sad to see a name synonymous with pipes run like a bat out of hell away from pipes

    Or maybe:


    Sad to see a name synonymous with pipes run like a B.A.T. out of hell away from pipes

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    Well, no sense looking up a dead horses ass.........

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    It's been clear for years that Dunhill does not care about Pipes, Pipe Tobacco and/or Cigars, and has been trying to distance themselves more and more from these products in recent years. I believe it was this forum where I read an article where Dunhill has different sales divisions, and the person that was put in charge of the "Smoking" division covering pipes, pipe tobacco and cigars was openly anti-smoking and didn't want Dunhill to be associated with smoking at all. Even though that's what the company was founded on. I believe the division President said something to the effect that Dunhill pipes shouldn't be smoked but put on display as a piece of art.

    Who in their right mind puts a guy in charge of a sales division that is so opposed to that divisions main focus and product line. Dumbest promotion company decision I've ever heard of.

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    Anyone know of something like Dark Flake I can get in the UK?

    To my taste, Wessex (Brigade) Campain Dark Flake is very similar to the taste profile of Dunhill Dark Flake

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    Sad to see a name synonymous with pipes run like a B.A.T. out of hell away from pipes

    Ha, I see what you did there. The Estonian judge awards a score of 965/965.

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    To my taste, Wessex (Brigade) Campain Dark Flake is very similar to the taste profile of Dunhill Dark Flake

    Can't get that here either. Pickings are getting slimmer and slimmer in the UK and I'd be lying if I said it wasn't disheartening.

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    I believe it was this forum where I read an article where Dunhill has different sales divisions, and the person that was put in charge of the "Smoking" division covering pipes, pipe tobacco and cigars was openly anti-smoking and didn't want Dunhill to be associated with smoking at all

    Sounds similar to that CDC head who was investing in tobacco stocks while tasked with reducing smoking.

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    Jazz:What about the Original Flake by Mc Baren, formerly known as Walnut Flake by Ogden's of Liverpool, great stuff.

    Paul The Scandinavian'
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    Jazz:What about the Original Flake by Mc Baren, formerly known as Walnut Flake by Ogden's of Liverpool, great stuff.

    Ahh, now that's one we can get here and I have never tried.

    My fear is that Dark Flake is unique and there is not anything else quite like it. I'm hoping we end up with these blends but with completely different names or even something like what happened with the Peterson blends when Rattray's produced tobaccos that were oddly close to certain Peterson's.

    I won't be holding my breath though.

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