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Does Zippo screw up the flavor?

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    I came across this topic that Zippo fluid screws up the taste and flavor of tobacco. Is there such thing?

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    For some.

    Just make sure you let the flame burn for a second or two, and that you don't tip the lighter towards the bowl: keep it parallel to the ground and you'll be fine.

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    ^^ exactly

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    don't tip the lighter towards the bowl: keep it parallel to the ground and you'll be fine.

    Confused... Parallel to the ground means tipping the lighter on it's side correct? Wouldn't that be the same as tipping it towards the bowl?

    "May my last breath be drawn through a pipe, and exhaled in a jest." Charles Lamb
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    Nope, Panhandler. Besides, with Zippos designed for pipes, which have a hole in each side of the chimney, you need to hold the lighter horizontal in order to draw the flame down and into the bowl.

    See here: Zippo instructional

    The demonstrator in that video is playing it even safer—by tilting the flaming end of the lighter slightly upwards to avoid fuel spills.

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    OK. Yeah, I have a Zippo with the pipe insert and use it often. I was just confused about the tipping part.

    Got it now. Thanks Olkofri.

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    I rarely get the gasoline flavor from my Zippo. When I do, it never lingers more than a couple of seconds anyway. It's not a big deal.

    Smoking is one of the leading causes of all statistics.
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    Never really got the taste of fuel. I think the inconvenience with pipe zippos is that you have to draw real hard when only very little tobacco left in the bowl. Hard to get it lit. For this I just grab my clipper lighter in order to be able to finish the bowl.

    Pierre
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    I never use the pipe inserts anymore. I went through three of them, and the striker wheel always seemed to gum up really fast, probably from the fluid. But, when I started using the regular Zippo insert, which never gummed up, I found that turning it on it's side and holding it an inch to half-an-inch above the bowl to work just as well as the insert. I'm not even sure now, why the pipe insert is even needed.

    And, no, I don't taste the fluid in the bowl.

    Michael
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    I can definitely taste it, but it's only for a second. There aren't any long term taste effects. The main reason I don't use my zips is because the altitude and dryness of where I live means I have to refill them almost daily due to evaporation. Now that I've switched to mostly butane, the fluid taste is more evident.

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    I don’t taste any fluid and I 100% of the time use Zippo (except for when I don’t). I use a pipe insert never had a prob with the wheel gumming up (knock on wood).

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    been using zippo since 1980. cigarettes, cigars, and now pipes. no issues what so ever. unless, of course, i run out of fuel. that's why i have a bic.

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    On cigars!! Interesting.

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    I took care of the Zippo fluid issue with a Thunderbird insert. Now, yeah, I know a lot of people say, "After the first few puffs it's not an issue." True that may be, however when I smoke I want good taste from the beginning. I don't want to have to "unwrap" every bowl with a couple of obligatory kerosene puffs (or times X number of relights, which no one ever seems to consider) to get to a lack of gasoline flavor.

    Yeah, I'm picky, & it's just me. But that *works* for me, so just deal with the attitude.

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    I don't mind it in pipe smoking, in fact I don't feel it at all. I can't stand it though in my cigars ...

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    @jason64

    Zippo lighter fluid is both volatile and flammable, so any that doesn't burn when you are lighting your pipe quickly dissipates. I occasionally get a brief whiff of it but have never tasted is when using my Zippo.

    But all that matters is what you think. If you don't like the taste of tobacco lit with lighter fluid, try a butane lighter or use matches.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    On cigars!! Interesting.

    Ive used zippos on cigars plenty of times. When you need a light, you use what you got.

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    But all that matters is what you think. If you don't like the taste of tobacco lit with lighter fluid, try a butane lighter or use matches.

    Well and directly stated.

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    So I don't ever use matches, like I probably should. I've been using a Zippo for a few years now. Yesterday I forgot it at home and used a bic lighter from the wife.

    I MUCH PERFER the taste of the Zippo.

    "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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    If I really get particular, even matches impart a slight scent into the air. I let a match burn a second or two, and then light the pipe. It gives the flame time to stabilize a little too. If you get the lighter fueled just right, it shouldn't give off much or any scent, but if you get a whiff of lighter fuel, it can bias the first few puffs. This is all sense of smell, not taste, but as with food, the scent is a lot of the experience. I like matches for the extra soft flame, but with any flame, reducing the smell is a good idea. This really sounds fussy, but I think it is a fine point, but true.

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    A newb here, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I find that I have to hold a soft flame butane lighter over the tobacco much longer than a pipe Zippo. I have to swirl it around a few times to get a good light (the butane). But with the pipe Zippo, I draw in the huge flame for just a brief instant and I have a good light. So either I burn some tobacco too hot, or I get a very brief whiff of Ronsonol. Six of one, half dozen of the other. I am still experimenting with both.

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    A newb here, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

    Don't apologize for being new to the "hobby." You're observations are as valid as mine and everybody else's.

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    I'm a princess and can taste fuel during the bowl, maybe it's all in my head but I can't use a Zippo and enjoy my pipe. Have been matches only for years.

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    I use lighters but prefer matches.

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    I used Zippo’s for decades (cigarettes) you get used to the taste after a while and don’t notice it anymore. Cigars seem to be more sensitive, possibility because once you draw the fumes in there’s no way for it to evaporate, I prefer my tobacco to not taste like naphtha.

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    A newb here, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I find that I have to hold a soft flame butane lighter over the tobacco much longer than a pipe Zippo. I have to swirl it around a few times to get a good light (the butane). But with the pipe Zippo, I draw in the huge flame for just a brief instant and I have a good light. So either I burn some tobacco too hot, or I get a very brief whiff of Ronsonol. Six of one, half dozen of the other. I am still experimenting with both.

    If you like a large flame, you can adjust the butane lighter.

    However, a gentler lighting of tobacco is often "a good thing".

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    I came across this topic that Zippo fluid screws up the taste and flavor of tobacco. Is there such thing?

    Yes, there is such a thing but the only way I have found to do it is by overfilling the lighter and/or use bad quality fuel. Not all lighter fuel is created equal.

    Also, don't have your wick too long. With my pipe insert, I tend to have it so it goes no further than halfway up the hole in the chimney.

    Posted 3 months ago #
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    I like matches for indoor use or perfect conditions outside. I have a vertigo pipe lighter. It has not failed me now for two years.

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    For me the lighter fluid is a no-no. My son-in-law bought me a butane Zippo and I love it.

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    Tried the pipe insert on my Zippo. I think it's something they made just because they could. It wasn't an improvement, just required a different technique. I tip the lighter a bit towards the pipe, tip the bowl towards the lighter, and suck the flame to the tobacco. Then, pipe well lit, I go about my merry way. I read the instructions which came with my first Zippo. After getting in the habit of letting the flame burn a second, no fuel taste. I do the same with matches, even the sainted Vesta, so as not to taste the match ignition.

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    I tried lighting with a the Zippo (pipe insert) for the first time today. Worked just fine, but I did get a whiff of fuel taste even after letting it burn for a couple of seconds. Only on the first puff though, and I think this will be my future choice for windy condition lighting.

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    I do admit the fluid insert is probably more windproof than the Thunderbird (butane) insert. I'm just this butane guy, y'know, so the T'bird is my alternate to the Imco in windy situations.

    Bill

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    No, use one all day, everyday

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    I am butane and matches all the way.

    However, to minimize the intrusion of lighter fluid taste, hold the flame further away from the tobacco. The super heated air beyond the tip of the flame is enough to gently ignite the tobacco. Just draw the flame to near the tobacco, don't point it in.

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    I don't prefer them for many reasons, but in answer to your question, no.

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