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rebornbriar

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 21, 2013
250
1
United Kingdom
I just came across this old blog post by Trever Talbert which made for some fun reading http://talbertpipes.blogspot.co.uk/2007/03/pipe-forum-insta-guide.html
I will quote the text below. Well which one are you?
I was just recently invited to join another pipe forum, and it reminded me of a silly topic I've always wanted to try writing up; namely, a handy guide to the standard personalities that nearly all online pipe forums come equipped with. Yes, it's true... After spending around seventeen years now involved in various online pipe forums from AOL to ASP to our current situation of roughly six hundred different web forums, I can say with total conviction that this guide should admirably serve the newcomer to any pipe forum by providing him or her with a handy reference guide for quickly discerning the identities of the various characters he or she will encounter.
I should mention that this is meant to be funny. I know it won't help, and that someone will be absolutely infuriated by this and probably flame me from nose to toes, but hey, that's the way it goes... :D And without further ado, here is your field guide to pipe forum personalities!
The Old Guy

This fellow is old. You know because he mentions this fact in roughly every other post. Also, he has been smoking pipes since 1905.. or perhaps even longer, should you yourself happen to have smoked pipes since then, because he's older than you, too. He also knows more, because he's been smoking a pipe for decades, and thus this automatically makes his every opinion the only correct one. "You clean your pipes? !! That isn't needed! I've been smoking a pipe since 1905 and I've never cleaned a one of 'em, and they're all just fine!" All dissent will be quickly squashed by a refutation of how long he's smoked a pipe. He's never bought a pipe that cost more than $3, and never bought tobacco anywhere but Walgreens, because by gum, that's all anyone needs! Now get off my lawn, kid!
The Sophisticate

(Yes, this fellow is affectionately named after the fellow who really did go by this name on ASP some years back) The Sophisticate is the natural enemy of the Old Guy, and you'll have great fun watching the two of them go at it. The Sophisticate loves the finer things in life. He lounges on his calfskin settee in the midst of his collection of hundred year old French wines, fifty year old discontinued tobacco blends, and five hundred WW2-era Dunhills... all in pristine condition, of course. The Sophisticate can detect the nuances of no less than forty-three different flavors in every bowl of tobacco smoked, and knows the entire Dunhill family tree by heart. A fountain of knowledge and obscure errata, the Sophisticate's great trial in life is coping with the unwashed masses who occasionally dare to challenge his assertions... Something the Old Guy does with relish.
Fox News

Fox News smokes a pipe, in theory at least. This can be determined by the fact that his posts occasionally are signed with "Haddos in a Tinsky". However, no forum participants have ever seen him actually post regarding the forum topic, pipes, because the entire focus of his presence seems to be to promote right wing ideology. The liberals are coming for his tobacco and guns, and by god (One Nation, under), he's going to make sure everyone knows about it! Fox News can derail the most innocent threads into political rants. The European Union has banned smoking on the TGV? It's because of socialism, damn it! Oddly, pipe forums seem to be free of Fox News's natural opposite, Nader Moore, which is probably a good thing since otherwise no one else would ever be able to say anything over the volume level of the political rhetoric. Why are gonzo liberals not attracted to pipe forums as are gonzo conservatives? They probably really believe all that "Smoking is dangerous" stuff. Pinkos.
The Expert

The Expert differs from the Sophisticate in, well... let's just say he lacks sophistication, but that doesn't make him an iota less absolutely convinced that his word is Ultimate Truth. Yea verily, all threads must kneel to his intricate knowledge of aerodynamics, expansion rates of tobacco smoke, heat indexes of burning tobacco in differently-shaped chambers, and exactly what secret ingredients go into C&D's Cross-Eyed Cricket to give it that special flavor. The Sophisticate finds him boorish and uncultured; to the Expert, the Sophisticate is a preening snob and most everyone else isn't worth notice, except to correct them when they're inevitably wrong. Experts, perhaps more than any other character type, tend to evolve through their participation, and over the course of years often transmute into Greedy Merchants, Royalty, or occasionally Apeshits.
Jokerman

Like Fox News, no one is really sure if this guy even smokes a pipe, or what he's really doing in the forum, but you'll never escape his presence because he posts a minimum of fifty off-topic posts per day on topics ranging from cheese flavors to carnivorous plants, but always with an air to the silly. He's the forum equivalent of the guy at your office party who gets drunk and begins dancing on the bar top with the stuffed moose head - Fun to watch, as long as you're well out of range of the inevitable fallout of his antics. This is because Jokerman is the black beast to various other characters, especially the Expert, the Sophisticate, and Royalty. Like clockwork, Jokerman's escapades will eventually tick off his enemies, resulting in furious flame wars about the group's topic drift, the sins of off-topic posting, and how many people are going to quit the group now.
Royalty

Royalty are rarely heard from, but their presence is felt keenly, and occasionally they venture forth to the forum to speak to the masses. These are the Olde Guard, the forum members who have been with the forum since the Olde Days, back when the level of discussion was much higher and everything was on-topic and the riff raff had not yet overrun the place. Some of the Royalty may have been on the forum as long as, oh, four years or more. They don't post much anymore, prefering to simply look down from on high and be amused by the squabblings of the common folk.
Greedy Merchants

These people were either in the business to start with, or entered the pipe business through their passion for the hobby. Well, that's what they claim, anyway. What they really want is YOUR money, all of it please, as fast as possible. They are, every one, the seediest, most untrustworthy individuals in the forum, and it is crucial that the second any business deal becomes slightly difficult for the buyer, he or she must immediately publicly flame the Greedy Merchant until he's a blackened briquet, for everyone else to see, lest they ever make the mistake of possibly thinking of dealing with said Greedy Merchant.
The Apeshit

Yeah, them. They've got plenty of opinions, alright... on virtually anything, but the problem is connecting the opinions they pop out with to the topic of discussion. They live in treehouses, armored, liberal-proof bunkers, or occasionally even (god forbid) France. They provide the weird stuff on the forum, like the ten page posting about how the orbit of Venus affects the burn rates of Cavendish tobaccos, or why all pipes should really be made from stainless steel. Key signs of the presence of the Apeshit are strong suspicions that they're pulling your leg. When you find yourself reading someone's post on how he's mounted a miniature battery-powered turbine fan at the top of his bowl to superheat the burning tobacco for more flavor.... Well, you've found the Apeshit. Is he serious, or is he an elaborate practical joke? (The Royalty are occasionally found to be secretly behind outbreaks of the Apeshit, because they're amused by the reactions stirred up) Enjoy his meanderings on why briar bowls perform better lined with 2mm of concrete, but watch from a safe distance, because the Apeshit draw cannon fire from virtually everyone else in a way that can be truly awe-inspiring to see.

 

flakyjakey

Lifer
Aug 21, 2013
1,117
7
@sable, I have you as the 'sophisticated expert'!! lol
PS don't be afraid to 'have a go' - I have rhino skin!!

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,768
45,349
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
@ flaky, However could I disagree with your assessment? Let's see...
I would say that you're a more complex blend, definitely sophisticated, mixed with a touch of expert, a dash of connoisseur, and just the barest hint of berserker to bring a welcome spiciness to the mix.

 

flakyjakey

Lifer
Aug 21, 2013
1,117
7
@sable, you are too kind. Perhaps because there doesn't seem to be a 'Grumpy Old Limey Bastard' blend? Actually that might be a good name for a tobacco - a plug, naturally!

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
11,731
16,325
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
And . . . we are off!
I'm old, been smoking a pipe since the mid 60's, not particularly sophisticated, and am an expert in a couple of areas that are rarely touched upon in this forum (the sandwich is of course an exception), I rarely miss "Red Eye" or "The Five" ("The Five" because I am a leg man and they have a leg chair. To be totally honest "Red Eye" has a leg chair also). There is royalty in my Irish heritage, I have nothing left to sell, I rarely go "ape shit" since I retired. And, while I have a sense of humor I go to great length to keep it under control.
So . . . no I don't think any of those apply to my persona, at least not enough that I can wear just one label.

 

flakyjakey

Lifer
Aug 21, 2013
1,117
7
Maybe, but in another place reborn has. So far I have refrained from pointing out that in the UK there is a saying -
"You are only as old as the woman you feel!!" This means that I am at least as young as him, and MUCH older than you!!! LOL

 

ejames

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
3,916
22
I'm an old, sophisticated expert and I know that I am the legitimate heir to the throne and that pipes should be made from Mulberry with stainless steel bits!

 

sfsteves

Lifer
Aug 3, 2013
1,279
0
SF Bay Area
For years, there've been those who have said I was a dirty old man ... I've always responded to that by telling them it not true, I'm not old ... been saying that long enough that it's increasingly difficult to deny, though.

 

flakyjakey

Lifer
Aug 21, 2013
1,117
7
@andy, I strongly suspect starcat does not fit any of the descriptors and that he was either 'on something' or was mentally ill. Anyhow, he seems to have been hounded off the Forums.

 

docwatson

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
1,149
9
New England
Trevor's post says it was meant to be funny and that some would be infuriated. Well IMO it was funny and yes, some of it infuriates me as well. But knowing of Talbert he likes criticism, and he better have a good sense of humor as well. Some people can dish it out but can't take it. Personally I think he is an incredibly talented artist and pipemaker but Trailboss REALLY hit the nail on the head.

I'm with Trailboss here with his reply, he can put it into words much better than I could attempt. :worship: :clap:

 

tbradsim1

Lifer
Jan 14, 2012
9,104
11,065
Southwest Louisiana
I"m just an old Fart who loves his pipes, and guns, watches Fox News, does not do Facebook,Linkendink, Rinkadink, and all the social medias that are so prevelent these days. I call a Spade a Spade. Love my Family, Country and still tear when the Flag is displayed and National Anthem is sung. Do not go to the Wall because I lost too many Friends. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

flakyjakey

Lifer
Aug 21, 2013
1,117
7
The article clearly needs a new descriptor:
"The Old Cajun"
That gave me a laugh, tbradsim1 - thanks!!!

 

papipeguy

Lifer
Jul 31, 2010
15,778
35
Bethlehem, Pa.
Funny stuff. I won't dare classify myself at nearly 62 years old and having smoked a pipe for almost 44 years and refuse to buy tobacco at a drugstore. But that's just me.

 

pruss

Lifer
Feb 6, 2013
3,558
370
Mytown
Thanks, Alan, for posting this fun list of archetypal pipe forum personas. It's funny, when I read the list and compare them to the cast of characters here I don't see instant or automatic fits. Sablebrush's description of flakey is a perfect example; many here are an amalgam of parts of the different personas.
If I'm reading correctly Mr. Talbert's original blog entry was posted in March, 2007. Based on my limited exposure to pipe forums (13 months or so) I'd suggest the personas have evolved or more have joined the forum fray. So for your consideration, here are a couple more. Please feel free to add-on thoughts to any of these three, or pile your own on.
As for which persona I have evolved? I think I started as a Neophyte, but am generally a Cruiser.
The Neophyte

"Hi everyone, my name is xxxxxx. I'm a long time lurker here, and I've learned a ton from all of you. You guys sure know a lot about pipes and tobacco. I've decided that you don't terrify me anymore, and I have a burning question that I need your help with..." The Neophyte is defined by their genuine interest in all things pipe, tobacco and tobacciana related. They are engaging in forum activity for the express purpose of learning more about pipes and tobacco; and because they need an outlet to engage others who share their interest. The Neophyte is relatively computer savvy, and is likely engaged in other social media extra-forum. Given their exploratory phase, and sponge-like capacity to take in information, it is likely that The Neophyte will grow out of this persona relatively quickly. Watch for high post/day counts from The Neophyte. The Neophyte can be a ready target for troll posts and may disappear without warning.
The Cruiser

The Cruiser is confident in their pipe and tobacco knowledge, and has defined the scope of their involvement in the hobby. Their understanding of the world of pipes and tobacco is wide, and deep enough to allow them to engage with each other, The Expert, The Sophisticate and the other personas all the while adding value to the dialogue. The Cruiser likely has specialist knowledge of their key areas of interest within the hobby. They are frequently the source of encouragement and support for The Neophyte. The Cruiser is still hungry for new information and stays on top of trends in the pipe and tobacco world (legislative trends, pricing, re-selling, new product launches, etc.). The Cruiser isn't likely to consider themselves as knowledgeable as The Expert, but isn't afraid to introduce a ground-stomping defense of something they know or consider to be "true". Most things wash off The Cruiser's back as they are invested in the pipe and tobacco discussion, and don't generally emotionally invest in the politics of the forum.
-- Pat

 
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