Pipes Magazine » Pipe Tobacco Discussion

Search Forums  
   
Tags:  No tags yet. 

Deer Tongue

(32 posts)
  1. User has not uploaded an avatar

    Anonymous

    Unregistered

    Posts: 249

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I lit up a used GBD this evening. I had cleaned it thoroughly, or so I thought. It had the pronounced taste of deer tongue. I used to enjoy a Tinder Box blend 30 years ago that had deer tongue. I think it was their Blend 33. If memory serves me well, Mixture 79 in the old days had deer tongue.
    Do any of you know of any currently available tobaccos that have deer tongue in them?
    Thanks.
    Mike

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. pagan

    pagan

    Preferred Member
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 5,954

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Mixture 79 reminds me more of the other end of the deer, IMHO

    Nowhere in the world will such a brotherly feeling of confidence be experienced as amongst those who sit together smoking their pipes
    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. mortonbriar

    mortonbriar

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2013
    Posts: 912

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Cornell and Diehl have a few, I think 'crooner' is the popular one, someone else who is more familiar with the blend could tell you if it is any good...

    Isaac

    I don't really care if the cup is half full or half empty, I just want something to sip on.
    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. mayfair70

    mayfair70

    Felis Nicotiana combustus
    Joined: Sep 2015
    Posts: 1,983

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/first-taste-of-deer-tongue

    The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you’ve got it made. -Groucho Marx
    Mouse-catcher on The Black Frigate
    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. huntertrw

    huntertrw

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2014
    Posts: 4,005

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    A quick search of the tobaccoreviews.com Website revealed that they currently list 20 blends containing deer tongue:

    Blend Reviews Avg Rating Blend Type Flavors
    4noggins - Imagine 3 ★★★☆ 3.0 American Deer Tongue
    4noggins - MOJO 6 ★★★☆ 3.0 American Deer Tongue
    Burlington on Whyte Tobacconist - Tolkien 0 0.0 Burley Based Cocoa / Chocolate, Deer Tongue
    Cornell & Diehl - Bag Piper 3 ★★☆☆ 2.3 Burley Based Alcohol / Liquor, Deer Tongue
    Cornell & Diehl - Crooner 85 ★★★☆ 2.7 Burley Based Alcohol / Liquor, Deer Tongue
    Cornell & Diehl - Gentleman Caller 22 ★★★★ 3.5 American Alcohol / Liquor, Deer Tongue
    Cornell & Diehl - New Market 6 ★★☆☆ 2.2 Virginia Based Alcohol / Liquor, Deer Tongue
    Cornell & Diehl - Trinidad 8 ★★★☆ 2.6 Burley Based Deer Tongue
    Doctor Xious Blends - No.B2 Westernesse 0 0.0 Deer Tongue
    Doctor Xious Blends - No.B3 Winterweed 0 0.0 Deer Tongue
    Fader's - Luau 1 ★★★★ 4.0 Deer Tongue
    Fader's - Old Mike 2 ★★★★ 3.5 Deer Tongue
    John Patton - Desert Pirate 1 ★★★☆ 3.0 Virginia/Burley Deer Tongue
    John Patton - Gold Nugget Mixture 7 ★★★★ 3.1 Burley Based Deer Tongue
    John Patton - Winter Heartbeat 5 ★☆☆☆ 2.2 Deer Tongue
    Spednova - Olandese Puro (Pure Dutch) 1 ★★★☆ 3.0 Aromatic Deer Tongue
    Straus Tobacco - Queen City 1 ★☆☆☆ 1.0 Cavendish Based Deer Tongue
    Ted's Pipe Shoppe - Virginia Blend 1 ★★★★ 4.0 American Deer Tongue
    ThePipeRoom.com - Bing Cherry 1 ★★☆☆ 2.0 Aromatic Cherry, Deer Tongue
    ThePipeRoom.com - Bing's Favorite 1 ★★★★ 4.0 Aromatic Deer Tongue

    Love Me, Love My Pipe
    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. mayfair70

    mayfair70

    Felis Nicotiana combustus
    Joined: Sep 2015
    Posts: 1,983

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Huntertrw for the WIN !!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. User has not uploaded an avatar

    Anonymous

    Unregistered

    Posts: 1,538

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Hunter, excellent research, good recommendations. Just stay away with blends that have deer " nads"... Lol.

    KEEP ON PUFFING!!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. anthonyrosenthal74

    anthonyrosenthal74

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jan 2013
    Posts: 7,493

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    What does Bambi think of it? Here's what...

    Arrrrr, shiver me timbers! International Talk Like a Pirate Day is September the 19th!!!
    Brothers Of The Black Frigate
    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. User has not uploaded an avatar

    Anonymous

    Unregistered

    Posts: 249

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    huntertrw, thanks so much. I didn't realize that one could search that website for "ingredients".

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. stbruno70

    stbruno70

    Senior Member
    Joined: Jul 2013
    Posts: 465

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    David P. Ehrlich / Leavitt & Peirce DPE

    Mason,Vice President
    Golden Gate Pipe Club
    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. huntertrw

    huntertrw

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jul 2014
    Posts: 4,005

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    "I didn't realize that one could search that website for "ingredients".

    It's simple. Just click on the 'Search' tab, then the 'Show more search fields...' link, and finally 'Flavors.' The latter reveals a drop-down menu with a variety of options from which you may choose.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. pagan

    pagan

    Preferred Member
    Joined: May 2016
    Posts: 5,954

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    thanks for that, I didn't know either

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. leacha

    leacha

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Jun 2013
    Posts: 966

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    4noggins has the best DT blends IMO.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. jerwynn

    jerwynn

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Dec 2011
    Posts: 1,039

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    “Deep peace of the running wave to you.
 Deep peace of the flowing air to you.
 Deep peace of the quiet earth to you.
 Deep peace of the shining stars to you.
    Deep peace of the infinite peace to you." - Fiona Macleod
    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. hawky454

    hawky454

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2016
    Posts: 2,991

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Crooner by C&D is definitely a favorite of mine!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. hmhaines

    hmhaines

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Sep 2016
    Posts: 904

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    The only Deertongue I've smoked was in Crooner. It was a nice blend, you can read the Newbie review here:

    http://pipesmagazine.com/forums/topic/a-newbie-reviews-campd-crooner

    "Following the path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked."
    U. Utah Phillips
    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. User has not uploaded an avatar

    jabo

    Senior Member
    Joined: Jan 2016
    Posts: 326

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Ah,an eye opener. I only thought it was Ion Crooner. Anyway, it ain't too bad. With a few pipes,it'll go aeay.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. User has not uploaded an avatar

    csharp

    Member
    Joined: Dec 2015
    Posts: 111

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    @stbruno70- Do they still make DPE? I have fond memories of it.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. stbruno70

    stbruno70

    Senior Member
    Joined: Jul 2013
    Posts: 465

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    @csharp - David P. Ehrlich went out of business perhaps five years ago. However, their "cousins" Leavitt & Peirce were still blending DPE a year ago, when I was last there.

    It is an old classic.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. mackeson

    mackeson

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2016
    Posts: 762

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I'll have to try a few of those. I've always been curious about deer toungue and wondered if the "vanilla-like description" was accurate and maybe was close to Tonka bean which I also enjoy.

    "Once you go down the Lakeland path, forever will it dominate your destiny."
    -Apologies to Master Yoda
    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. User has not uploaded an avatar

    csharp

    Member
    Joined: Dec 2015
    Posts: 111

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    @stbruno70- Thanks fore the info. I was not sure if L&P was still selling it. I will have to get in touch with them.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. User has not uploaded an avatar

    jitterbugdude

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Mar 2014
    Posts: 1,034

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    wondered if the "vanilla-like description" was accurate and maybe was close to Tonka bean which I also enjoy.

    Though they both contain about the same amount of Coumarin (the active ingredient) I find there in no similarity in taste between the two.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. arno665

    arno665

    Senior Member
    Joined: Apr 2013
    Posts: 355

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    To my taste the new John Cotton Smyrna also has a tiny little bit of it (or at least something which has coumarin (Hello Russ, I am right? :-))). I used to blend a lot with deer-tongue so I recognized the taste.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. beefeater33

    beefeater33

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Apr 2014
    Posts: 2,584

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I didn't care for Crooner, I think the Deer tongue would work great with a Virginia, but with the Burley, it just didn't click for me...

    "We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of the dream..."
    Willy Wonka
    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. krizzose

    krizzose

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posts: 1,037

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Beefeater:

    Funny you said that. While I like Crooner just fine as is, I also have been mixing it 50/50 with McCranie's Red Flake with good results.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. User has not uploaded an avatar

    logs

    Junior Member
    Joined: Apr 2019
    Posts: 79

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I lit up a used GBD this evening. I had cleaned it thoroughly, or so I thought. It had the pronounced taste of deer tongue.

    Same problem and what to do about it? Just bought a couple of estate Kaywoodie pipes from two different guys on ebay and both arrived clean but with the ghosts of deer tongue past. Can these be rescued without spending twice what these el-cheapo pipes are worth? It's not an unreasonably strong taste, but strong enough to make the pipes a drag to smoke.

    Posted 6 days ago #
  27. alexnc

    alexnc

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2015
    Posts: 561

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I've never tasted deer tongue or the ghost, but I've cured pipes of my own self inflicted Lakeland binges. I might be a little harsh, but if it's making a pipe not enjoyable then I think I could cure it. In the older days I didn't think about how destructive isopropyl alcohol might be to stems. I use hot soapy water on them now - but if I need to cure a ghost that's bugging me, I would do it again.

    Salt treatment - link
    I've done it many times with no ill effect - but I don't really care if I destroy a pipe I'm not enjoying very much either

    Alcohol retort - https://rebornpipes.com/2012/10/17/what-is-a-pipe-retort-and-how-it-is-used/
    I've done it with no ill effect - heres a cheap kit - link

    if you scrub it out with bristle cleaners and then do these 2 treatments - maybe 2X salt treatment + retort until the alcohol is clear I would be amazed if you still had a ghost

    Goo Goo g’joob
    Posted 6 days ago #
  28. weezell

    weezell

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2011
    Posts: 9,404

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    or take some blend you like and smoke the piss out of that ghost if it's not overwhelming...

    "the weez"...
    Posted 6 days ago #
  29. User has not uploaded an avatar

    logs

    Junior Member
    Joined: Apr 2019
    Posts: 79

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    maybe 2X salt treatment + retort until the alcohol is clear I would be amazed if you still had a ghost

    How risky is the retort system? I've seen these systems but boiling alcohol sounds terrifying (not to mention the ebay guy has a warning saying he's not liable for injury from his product!)

    take some blend you like and smoke the piss out of that ghost if it's not overwhelming...

    I've never had much luck with this approach in the past. Seems like it covers the ghost somewhat but never really gets rid of it.

    Posted 5 days ago #
  30. mso489

    mso489

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posts: 26,274

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I wouldn't like flavoring condiments that are too persistent. The current Mixture No. 79, without deer tongue, I find a pleasing codger blend, not stellar, but a change of pace, a little out of the way. I subscribed to the jokey comments until chasing embers invited us all to give it a go. I keep a pouch around.

    Posted 5 days ago #
  31. pappymac

    pappymac

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Feb 2015
    Posts: 1,860

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    Try Daughters & Ryan's London Dock. The claim to have replaced deer tongue with courmarin which is supposed to be similiar. I've smoked 2 tins of it so far and haven't noticed any ghosting.

    I am glad we have a good admin and responsible moderators.

    Heave to you dark colored ship under sail! Prepare to be boarded!
    Posted 5 days ago #
  32. alexnc

    alexnc

    Preferred Member
    Joined: Oct 2015
    Posts: 561

    offline

    Login to Send PM

    I don’t feel the retort is risky or the salt/alcohol treatment. I've never had an accident with either. But usually I'm refinishing at the same time so it doesn't matter. The big thing is to prevent alcohol from getting on the finish of your pipes and forcing a re-finish die and wax, which is no big deal if it does really. It takes no time and then it looks like new. If you’re doing the salt bath use a syringe. If you do a retort make sure the top of the bowl is blocked well so it doesn’t leak.

    Posted 5 days ago #

Reply

You must log in to post.

 

 

    Back To Top  | Back to Forum Home Page

   Members Online Now
   jttnk