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  1. georged

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    After seeing the "Deathmetal" board name appear on a number of recent threads here, I decided to investigate what a "death metal" was. Figured it was probably a term physicists used to describe any of a family of highly radioactive by-product metals from a nuclear power plant.

    So, I Googled the term, clicked a sample link, and within seconds my cat switched on the kitchen sink's garbage disposal and jumped in, three people walking past my house vomited themselves to death on the sidewalk (dehydration, most likely), the inside of all my windows frosted white as if etched by fluorine gas, the interior wall paint peeled off in charred strips, my next door neighbor to the south threw a dozen paper bags of their Rottweiler's finest offerings at my house, and my next door neighbor to the north called the police who sent a SWAT team because they thought I was torturing someone in my basement.

    All in all, not quite what I was expecting. Is that normal?

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    Normal as in its normal until the demons show up.

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    No. It is not normal. It is what they call "death metal". An acquired taste, from what I hear.

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    "..the inside of all my windows frosted white as if etched by fluorine gas.."

    Nice

    Not my style to be sure

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    You'd have to first define normal. It is a sub genre of music.

    While I enjoy what is most likely "Old School Metal". Black Sabath, Deep Purple, Older Metallica, actual Scandinavian and variations of Death Metal bore me.

    But I am old....so take that for what it's worth.

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    He's a much better chap than his name.

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    The real question is: How did your pipes survive the attack?

    I know that you believe you understood what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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    The attacks is mostly sonic. Your pipes will be fine.

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    A "death metal" is not only the bailiwick of the physicists. It can also be construed as anything in the 1911, M-60, M-14, and to a lesser extent, M-16/AR-15 family of metals.

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    Led Zepplin?

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    When he posts song links it's like watching a car accident. You don't wanna watch, but in music terms you can't help but listen. Of course I can't personally listen too long or I'd probably hang myself.

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    He posted some GREAT...old stuff tonight.

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    Perfectly normal and everything will be fine. Cats grow on trees, the pedestrians will be cleared by buzzards over the next couple weeks, you need to wash down the windows with a 50/50 mixture of holy water and everclear, the wall treatment is a high end design feature that should be viewed as a gift, the dog poop can be thrown back, and the SWAT team will leave allowing you to continue torturing whoever you have in the basement once they realize it's just death metal.

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    Perfectly normal and everything will be fine. Cats grow on trees, the pedestrians will be cleared by buzzards over the next couple weeks, you need to wash down the windows with a 50/50 mixture of holy water and everclear, the wall treatment is a high end design feature that should be viewed as a gift, the dog poop can be thrown back, and the SWAT team will leave allowing you to continue torturing whoever you have in the basement once they realize it's just death metal.

    Thanks. I needed that.

    All better now, me.

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    I'm not heavily into metal, but I'll listen to Black Metal or Viking Metal from time to time.

    I mainly listen to Industrial of which there is a subgenre called Death Industrial. Just be glad you didn't search for that instead.

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    Why yes, it is supposed to be that way... but I recognize that, like Royal Yacht and witbier, it's an acquired taste... which means some will never acquire it, and so forth.

    Here's the roots of the genre:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw3njtQaf6s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVecmhNYbuQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0usvIXvNuk

    Its first proto-generation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dWwKDCRV8o

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnwmmTlJ2Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV08nY2J268

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGKlb8hklQ

    And some early works:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4J5vAUJpTA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2EAo90fGzE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGrOk1FTis

    The Heavy Metal FAQ might have more information.

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    You know, I never really considered Bathory's The Return to be a precursor to Death Metal, but upon listening to it again, I can totally see it. I guess I just lumped all albums prior to Under the Sign of the Black Mark as "experimental thrash metal."

    My favorite is Blood Fire Death so I suppose I think that all the previous albums are all working on leading up to, what I would consider to be, the band's perfection.

    Good call on that one.

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    BFD is my personal favorite as well. It captures what he always wanted to do in a compact and epic form! It probably ultimately had more effect in black metal than death metal, but all of his stuff was influential.

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    I still don't care for Royal Yacht

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    Hilarious OP narrative George. I feel your pain. The most I can handle is the Eagles of Death Metal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvxypx1tps

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    No Celtic Frost?

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    I listened to a few minutes of the albums posted by deathmetal, and feel it might need to be an addition to the Clergy Pipe Smokers thread. I'll admit to liking some of it though, Black Sabbath in particular. My problem is, I'm now an old fart with tinnitus, but I always liked hearing different kinds of music. The metal music I am more familiar with is of the heavy metal type. I have a couple of albums by Nine Inch Nails that I like and play from time to time, and I also have an interesting album I got in the late 80s that works the senses called Nosferatu by Art Zoyd. It was made to be a soundtrack for the silent film of the same name. There's so many different kinds of music that's been made down through the years, and it all quite interesting.

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    All death, no metal:

    Kronos Quartet's "Dracula"

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    In high school I hated metal until I sang with the Milwaukee symphony...the layered rhythms and chords in metal then made sense. If this sounds weird it's ok my wife thought that was nuts too

    Cries of the Past by Uneroath after singing Handels Messiah makes sense to me though

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    The music just conjures up such raw, primal rage. It's funny how we become our like our parents at some point. It conjures up memories of my Mom's reactions to hearing me cranking up Grand Funk or Led Zepplin. She'd barg into my room slamming down my turntable, yelling, "This crap makes me want to KILL!!!"

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    Not my genre at all......... but I drive my kids nutz with my music of choice. I can veer into different realms, but don't stay long in the metal spot.... Makes me a bit ill.......

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    Death is like one of those closeted homosexuals who goes around beating the shit out of gay guys and calling everyone a fag because he can't come to terms with his own sexual identity. This guy smokes more mixture 79 than anybody here!

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    Here you go George. The best metal video ever. Hang in there until about the 45 second mark.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWFWazj7Ud8

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    I was never a fan of straight death metal, I found it far too repetitive. I do like a bit of black metal though, or even blackened death on occasion. There are a lot of tech-death bands on the go at the moment but it's a very hit and miss sub genre. I loved the last Fallujah album though; great musicianship, tastful atmospherics and I can actually make out the occasional lyric!

    [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWIF-hxJEng][/url]

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    I'll hold the flag with you deathmetal! Here we go:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmu6dsq9TXw

    m/

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    Obituary's "World Demise" was the song I was attempting to embed, but I can't figure the embedding process out and I need to leave for work.

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    DeathMetal? Great guy!

    The Genre? Out grew it. But still respect the orchestratic/TimeSignature/ Classical/technical modes of death metal. Celtic Frost, Deicide, Death, MorbidAngel....yea I used to love that stuff.

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    Beethoven became Deathmetal.

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    I've always found it funny that I can enjoy punk, black metal, but find death metal one dimensional (with a few scant exceptions). More than anything I do enjoy the over the top imagery and band names/song titles. It's theatre, it's a character. Sort of like the "hipster" thing several of you like to go on about.

    As with smokes though, to each his own, I'm not one to judge.

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    I listened to a few minutes of the albums posted by deathmetal, and feel it might need to be an addition to the Clergy Pipe Smokers thread.

    I think that's a good idea. Death Metal will lead you to religion. I will try to explain this briefly, because my tendency is to ramble on.

    (1) There are musical similarities between death metal and church music, including selective use of the whole scale and use of form; this is a response to the call/response method of the blues, which probably originated in Scotland of all places.

    (2) Death metal terminated in black metal, historically. This was music which took the anti-mainstream/esoteric/occult views of death metal further into nature worship, paganism and a type of devotional.

    (3) People forget the full Nietzsche quote: "God is dead; God remains dead; and we have killed him" (paraphrase). Without an inward impetus to resurrection, there is no discovering of God. Death metal takes the Nietzsche path of "undergoing" (through animality) to restoration.

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    Who woulda thunk it ? !

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    @demetrakopoulos


    I mainly listen to Industrial of which there is a subgenre called Death Industrial.

    The closest I get to that is K.K. Null or Godflesh.

    @perdurabo


    But still respect the orchestratic/TimeSignature/ Classical/technical modes of death metal. Celtic Frost, Deicide, Death, MorbidAngel....yea I used to love that stuff.

    Seems the peak of the genre to me. 1988-1993 were its busy years.

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    This guy smokes more mixture 79 than anybody here!

    Indeed!

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    It conjures up memories of my Mom's reactions to hearing me cranking up Grand Funk or Led Zepplin.

    My Mom hated all of it, but warmed up to Slayer over time.

    @theosprey


    No Celtic Frost?

    An essential band, but I included Hellhammer, their previous iteration. I should've tossed Morbid Tales on there too!

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    Music hasn't been the same since Lawrence Welk died.

    I find myself sitting idly on the line dividing past and future,
    as if I could kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau
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    I just find there's so many subjects in music these days.
    Ie death,power,symphonic,doom etc. I just like metal. I'm all over the map Ghost bc,Huntress, Cradle of Filth. Halloween,Avatarium. along with the classics black Sabbath,Moorhead, act.

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    I just like metal.

    Never a bad thing. This might be along your lines:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHyqVkgkbE

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    Music hasn't been the same since Lawrence Welk died.

    A little known piece of Welkian history: He did make one valiant but tragic effort to be hip.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFmSv2WFDrs

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    Excuse me but lumping in any of those death metal bands with Black Sabbath is blasphemy. Ozzie actually sings, he doesn't just scream into a microphone with lyrics that no one can understand. Black Sabbath plays more than one cord of music in their songs. Black Sabbath 4 is one of the greatest hard rock albums in the history of hard rock. Me and my band learned everyone of their songs and played them pretty damn well. Other hard rock bands were Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix Experience, Deep Purple, Uriah Heep,Grand Funk Railroad, too name a few. Death Metal( my son was into that and his band played it in my house) is a form of music that is an affront to real music. Every death metal band sounds the exact same, with the exact same singer screaming into their microphones at the top of their lungs and being totally unintelligible.

    Because my parents used to tell me my music was garbage and a total affront to the music they grew up listening to, (Sinatra,Tony Bennet, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, and plenty of others, my parents choices of jazz was something I listened to an appreciated) I gave my son's music the time and consideration that my parents never gave my music. After giving his music every shot I could, I had to determine that his band sucked, his music sucked and the entire genre of death metal, sucked dead donkey dicks.

    I really tried to find something of value in it, but no matter how hard I tried, I could do nothing but call it like I saw it, garbaaaaggge. Please do not get upset with me death metal connoisseurs I really really tried to like you. I am a musician( drums and other percussion instruments) so I have a good ear for all kinds of different music. I like old Motown, Jazz, Classical, Reggae, Sinatra, Dean Martin, and other crooners, almost every genre there is, but death metal is beyond my understanding.

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    Get off my lawn!

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    Harrrumph!

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    Black Sabbath Vol. 4 is one of the greatest hard rock albums in the history of hard rock.

    I have to agree, but I'm favoring Master of Reality and Sabotage these days.

    Here's some multiple-chord death metal for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQc4ZKH185E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUZ5xpcKHw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGU9M5rTX_I

    If you like Black Sabbath, I suggest checking out Saint Vitus and Cathedral:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RCjEdeGmFk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZkufellkew

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    death, I listened to the first band and after about 1.5 minutes I had to turn it off. That is exactly the type of music my sons band played and he listened to. When we would go for a drive, he always had a cd to play for me and I really tried to be supportive about the music he liked, but it all sounded the same to me. I would play stuff like Led Zeppelin to show him the difference and while he did appreciate it, he liked his better.

    It just goes to show how everyone's tastes are so different, and that my taste is superior to his. lol

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    I would play stuff like Led Zeppelin to show him the difference and while he did appreciate it, he liked his better.

    If his band put out any material, would you shoot it my way?

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    death, his band played a few local places in Tampa, but they never recorded anything. I went to one of his shows showing my support of him and his friends, but my ears hurt for a couple of days later. My son played the bass guitar and he had the long hair as did all of the band members except the lead singer. They would whip their hair around to the music and of course the chicks dug them. Their lead singer's father was a nephew of George Harrison( member of the Beetles). The kid couldn't sing like Harrison, all he did was scream at the top of his lungs like all the other death metal bands.

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    Ah, my favorite Beatle (not really a fan however). His book I, Me, Mine is worth reading!

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    Simple ploys for attention... it works!

    Are those Tobacco Brownies?
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    Yeah, but do you like death metal?

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    Orley -

    I have a couple of albums by Nine Inch Nails that I like and play from time to time, and I also have an interesting album I got in the late 80s that works the senses called Nosferatu by Art Zoyd.

    You have albums? And you can still play them?

    I don't know where I'm going...but sooner or later I'll get there.
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    What's the difference between death metal, speed metal, and thrash metal. And does Suicidal Tendencies fit I liked their 1st two albums

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    Suicidal Tendencies -I'd consider it punk with metal overtones.

    What's the difference between death metal, speed metal, and thrash metal.

    Same Songs Different Days??? I think they are pretty much the same. I heard speed, thrash, then death metal in that order over the years. YMMV. Someone else can no doubt delineate further.

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    Ok thanks

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    Man I most of those albums (on cassette of course). But. we just called it heavy metal. My friends and I refused to call hair bands like Poison, Ratt, and post Shout at The Devil Motley Crue metall

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    HA!! We called Ratt, Poison, Twisted Sister and the like "Hair Bands" to differentiate them from "true" metal like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Sabbath. Yeah, I couldn't listen to metal after Motley Crue did Home Sweet Home and it infected the airwaves like an STD. It ruined the tonality for me. I came to resent slinky strings and too much reverb and distortion, and moved toward Chicago and Delta Blues, Classical, "Alternative", Big Band, 50's, 60's, & 70's rock and indigenous music.

    It may be a generational thing, I was born in 1970, and some genre labels do come after the fact. What I called rockabilly one day my mother said was just rock-n-roll when it came out. DRI's DWI was punk, Cryptic Slaughter was Speedmetal, Corrosion Of Conformity was just awesome! Suicidal Tendencies' (for the first album) vocalist is almost indistinguishable stylistically from, say, Zero Boys and fit under American hardcore Punk. Its only looking back that I call it punk/metal. I had listened to the Ramones since I was like ten. The rest, as you say, we called speed metal and if they grunted and you couldn't understand the lyrics at all it was Deathmetal. I had few and far between encounters with Metal after 1986 or so.

    I have not heard COC in decades and it was a real treat to hear it again. Today, I can see how the different styles co-existed on a continuum and branched out from common influences and evolved over time. Thanks for indulging a music Nazi.

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    I'm surprised no one has posted the best Death Metal album ever created. Chuck Schuldiner was the father of Death Metal and in my opinion Death was and still is the best Death Metal band.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zQhJNsWBWY

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    cigrmaster -

    Excuse me but lumping in any of those death metal bands with Black Sabbath is blasphemy. Ozzie actually sings, he doesn't just scream into a microphone with lyrics that no one can understand.

    It's not Ozzie, it's Ozzy. LOL

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    Here's the roots of the genre:

    Just too bad the roots took hold and it propagated.

    Sorry, but just not my thing as it all simply sounds the same with someone screaming unintelligible lyrics. But, if it's your thing then by all means enjoy.

    ~I started out with nothing, and still have most of it.~
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    I'm a child of the 60's and love many genres of music. I challenge you to not rock out to some ABBA and Bee Gee's

    Operatic death metal does seem to resonate with me lately though (Xandria/Epica/Evenescnence/Lacuna Coil, et al.) but I still appreciate old school punk.

    My 21yr old son thinks I am weird because I still like Willie Nelson. *shrug*

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    I'm not even gonna try to listen to death metal. I enjoy some early LZ. I bought the first Black Sabbath album a million years ago, and decided that it was music to listen to while you did Quaaludes.

    Dead, Allmans, old Stones, classic swing, blues. Gimme stuff like that any time.

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    Peace in the hush of the twilight, balm ere my eyelids close
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  64. deathmetal

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    @metalheadycigarguy

    Well, for Death, this is probably the peak:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ClXPGmZy4

    @mayfair70


    We called Ratt, Poison, Twisted Sister and the like "Hair Bands" to differentiate them from "true" metal like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Sabbath.

    Same boat here. I eventually just started referring to them as hard rock and saying I liked AC/DC instead, which people seem to intuitively accept.


    I can see how the different styles co-existed on a continuum and branched out from common influences and evolved over time.

    I find the "music history" angle to be the most interesting, as like all histories, it is a story of ideas. I have a shelf or so of music history books that provide some aid in seeing where everything groups.

    @jimbo69


    I challenge you to not rock out to some ABBA

    I rather enjoy ABBA and think it better than all the pop music I've heard lately.

    @theosprey247


    But. we just called it heavy metal.

    I tend to use the term "heavy metal" like the term "classical": it is both an umbrella term for an entire style, and a subgenre. Black Sabbath is proto-metal; Led Zeppelin and Deep People are hard rock; starting with the NWOBHM (Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Angel Witch, Witchfinder General) was heavy metal, and anything of roughly that style fits under that category. Speed metal sort of extended that, and underground metal was the full evolution of metal; after that, it has been mostly hybrids as it looks for a new direction.

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  65. haiduk

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    blackened death metal solo project HAIDUK

    Check out and comment!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIS6KqjAzUU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeiFCiTZXIc

    http://www.haiduk.ca

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    I am a big fan of Lemmy from Motörhead and so is Matron. When we heard about his death we were both devastated. During an e-mail conversation we came up with the idea to bring a toast to Lemmy in Wuustwezel. Of course that would happen with the favourite drink of Lemmy, a Jack Daniels/cola. So I brought half a bottle of Jack with me (the other half I drank on the evening of the day I heard Lemmy died..) and to my delight I saw that Matron had taken 2 Motörhead shirts with him. His shirt was without sleeves. "You know, this shirt once had sleeves. But on a day when I was hiking I realized I forgot to bring tissues with me when I just had taken a shit. So I ripped off the sleeves of my shirt..." The shirt he had for me was a perfect fit, "size fat bastard" he said to me with a wink. We filled our glasses and raised them in honour of our fallen hero. R.I.P. Lemmy!

    https://dutchpipesmoker.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/pleasures-of-life-in-belgium-2016/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf1bFQldkfo

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    GrooveMetal, I'm not really sure what the attraction is either. I like some harder stuff like GWAR and KMFDM, but only seeing it live. It's nothing id ever listen to in my car. Obviously you need a bit of seething rage to appreciate the genre.

    Nate @ Moody AL
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    "A repo man is always intense. Come on, let's get a drink."

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    KMFDM. Someone mentioning them is a breath of fresh air. I though I might be the only one left who heard of them since most of my high school buddies are either dead from o.d.'s or holed up in their own reclusive worlds.

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    Sounds like Generation X. Thanks, Boomers!

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